Going back to missions for Masters

I'm a relatively new player so maybe the following experience is typical. IDK that's why I'm posting.

When I first tried getting through Venta Cemetary using Hero's & henchies I was totally pwnt.

I stuck with it and made it through H&H but ever since I go back seeing if anyone wants to go for the Masters.

Instead I usually end-up running a PUG through because they just want to finish. I don't mind, I've done it a few times and I still get at least one skill point plus my share of the loot.

This morning I do search party for Masters. I got an ivite & accepted.

Mission starts and dude's rushing command posts. At first it's OK but eventually he runs us close to the Garrison and I start telling him back off, draw lines AWAY from garrison etc.

His first chat mssg since we started " DO you know where we're supposed to go?"

:Facepalm:

I asked him are you going for masters, he replies "I'm looking for Magrid"

OK, I give up my plan, open the U map and figure the quickest way there with least aggros, tell him follow me. Encountered 2 small mobs, no big deal.

With Magrid in site 2 groups Aggro'd. TBH I didn't see how. I didn't think about it at the time.

I just started Spamming everything I had as fast as I had it. My skill bar : OgBCoMzjxAXUEpb6ChBYtsC {I /fail at posting maybe someone can translate}

After about 2 minutes I realize it's down to me and my Koss (W/Mo with rez) against 2 bowman with little health & a Firestorm on the way. ( All the sunspear evacuees were alive behind me)

I have to mention I use a 22" widescreen monitor running 1600 x whatever , so I really don't notice the chat box if I'm not watching it.


So then I realize he's sending messages in Team Chat.

I can only see the last three messages but it's him saying that this was all my fault.

Next message was more of the same.

Then third one was we're never gonna make it I can't believe you did this to me.

By now all the enemies are dead and Koss is staying where I flagged him, far away from me or the corpse of my "partner".

I have to tell you, after reading the trash talk I was ready to map out of there. I just couldn't do it.

I typed "Lulz, sorry" in Chat then had Koss go rez him.

Then when we spawn in the city he said "Why did you spawn us here". I told him to go get his new missions.

Was I being a noob for not having communicated clear enough before we started or was he just a jack-ass?

1) People just want to beat the game to get good stuff whether it's Endgame Green Weapons/Items or Armor. Sadly, not many people even bother with titles until they learn about the Hall of Monuments.

2) People don't even listen to cutscenes or read dialogue on what has to be done. A glance at Wiki and they're off to do whatever.

3) It's only your fault if you choose to ignore what everyone else decides to do. A team is SUPPOSED to know what to do prior to entering, but like anyone does that anymore...

4) Everyone, at some point in time, life and mind... are jerks, gods and human.

People are retarded...

Welcome to the internet.

Just a random guess .... was he a W/Mo?

Reading your post reminds me of why I no longer do things with a PuG. I'd gladly help you get masters. Just me and you and our heroes could do it no problem.

IGN: Mystica Monty

I'm also curious...how do you die in this mission? You have like 10 heal-bots following you.

only way to die is run into siege/leeroy

Your build could use some refining; try more energy management.
[skill]Glyph of Elemental Power[/skill] change to [skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill]
[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Teinai's Heat[/skill]
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill]
[skill]Fireball[/skill]
[skill]Flare[/skill] change to [skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill]
[skill]Glyph of Restoration[/skill]
[skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill]

Probably want to replace the Heat and the Glyph of Restoration as well. A resurrection skill is nice to bring when you play with other people, especially with PuGs.

On top of MisterB's advice, I also suggest removing Flame Djinns haste when you're with h/h because often you'll find yourself running into combat when your party is a compass width behind you, which typically ends badly.

One point I disagree with MisterB is having Tenai's Heat, I suggest taking another AoE spell as well, preferably Searing Heat. Most of the time you'll be spamming SF anyways, so fireball doesn't really need to be on your skillbar.

Personally I'd drop both fireball and Teinais Heat too. Searing Flames is the damage dealer, all energy should go to spamming it and glowing gaze as fast as they recharge. I'd maybe bring an interrupt (Power Drain?) for those meteor showers, and then some defensive/utility skills. But maybe that's just me.

But more to the point: if you know the mission, why don't you just H/H it? It's very easy to get masters there with heroes and henches. Just take out those towers.

yeah just go around the edges and get those towers when you get to the top near where you started get tower 10...go back the way you came and get the last 2...and then get over to magrid....have done this with 12 characters---10 of which have masters on it (the other 2 I ran thru the mission just to get it done---was running characters to vabbi for armor)....pretty easy mission even with koss doing his leroy impressions.

Thanks for the replies and the advice.

Changing the glyphs from Elemental Power to lesser energy is the concensus?

I thought it would be better to have more damage.

That's why I come here, to find out what I'm wrong about

I'll switch the flare out, just liked it because it's spammable.

The Djinns haste I use as a Defense. Adjacent catches fire & I run away. I switch that slot around a lot. Sometimes I throw Steam in there.

I think I'll try to find a decent interrupt for that 8 slot.

This isn't really a build thread, but I'll just throw this in; OgVCoMzzYtpR3QGLBgBuAjD used it to vanquish stuff, and take out monsters alone in the deep HM, so I know it works, though Arcane Echo can be swapped out for something like Flame Djinn's Haste in normal play, and even the rez if you really want.

Relating to the OP, I think that you just got a noob team, obviously if he was asking such questions, and this is just every day PuG life, never changes.

If you run out of energy, you deal zero damage, thus GoLE is much better than any other glyph to boost your damage.

Flare is spamable, no doubt, but searing flames are spamable enough to make another spamable skill on bar pointless. Skills like liquid flame and Glowing Gaze use your time between SF castings more efectivelly.

he was just jackass :d

Yup, New player... always gotta deal with them. Its been like this since day 1 in Guildwars, even when everyone was new to the game you had noob players ^_^. I would recommend getting a PvE oriantated guild and just running through masters with a buddy. You help him with some missions he needs masters on and vice-versa, its really quite fun. God i love my guild... ^^

Round up some guildies or look for a help thread on the forum if you need assistance. Though I have little faith in humanity, especially the portion that participates in online foruming, I'm sure there will be some helpful people around that can get you through Master's on one mission.

If you want more damage with your bar bring heroes with SF too and just spam it, you don't need anything else other than energy management and res.

Seeing as no-one's mentioned it yet... the mission map on the wiki is good for showing you how to get to the watchtowers without aggroing the siege attacks. Going behind the rocks between towers 6 & 7 is advisable.

Thanks Saraphim & others who replied.

I've been whoring EotN points this weekend but Monday morning I'll be back in the cemetery.

I'm going to try to Hero & Henchie it solo for masters. I think I can do it.


Plan on staying right until returning to starting point then take last 2 posts.

Thanks for the advice & replies.

Hey, if you see me on as Laura Fowler on Monday, drop me a PM. I'll help you get master's.

I would like to apoligize to the OP that I wiped him twice last night (both accidently, of course).

LULZ

We had some fun though, right until the end

Thanks for the whisper, we'll get'm on Monday.

Don't worry, people are stupid.