So there I was cappin' skills in Cantha when I remember reading a post some time ago about how you can increase the amount of money you make from drops if you ID them all. I did not pay much attention to it at the time; however, since I was getting lots of junk anyway I desided to give it a try.
I would track each drop I got, the color, and the amount in merchant value before and after I ID them. I did not track items that already have a value like (Soul Stones), or any Green weapon (not that I ever get any).
All tests were done in Normal mode, going to the boss to be killed for capping the skill. There are only 90 drops because I did a HM run to increase my norrn rank and got 4 golds in less than 10 minutes. So I didnt think they should go on the chart.
In any case here are the results:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...er/IsIDworthit
Summary:
By using a superior Identification Kit you increase your Net income by 1,327 gold (15g per drop). Meaning that you actually make up the cost of the ID kit and get an additional 1,327 gold.
So I would suggest you ID everything. You will not make money on every ID, but over the lkong run you will definitly pay for ID kit and more.
Is using the Identification Kit worth it (Merchant wise)
thunderai
Eldin
I generally would ID anything Maguuma+ on in Tyria, Kaineng+ on in Cantha, and Vabbi+ on in Elona.
Of course, if the whites are considerably far from max dmg, it's not always worth it.
Good find though, I may try that out, I got a few spare Sup ID's in storage thanks to quest trophy collectors.
Of course, if the whites are considerably far from max dmg, it's not always worth it.
Good find though, I may try that out, I got a few spare Sup ID's in storage thanks to quest trophy collectors.
Arduin
An average increase of 14g per item (1272/90). Now one wonders if this is really worth all the clicking.
thunderai
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An average increase of 14g per item (1272/90). Now one wonders if this is really worth all the clicking.
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The actual count is 89 drops and the sub total is wrong it is really around 1372 (i am updating the table) so that is 15g per click of additional merchant cash on average.
ivan.alicard
not to mention all the item mod inscription you will unlock o.O
Albert Algorn
I have found the same thing and started id'ing everything about a year ago. You come out way ahead esp. if you can buy discount id kits from a private area merchant.
Aleron
Thanks for the info. I usually ID everything. I don't get my ID kits from the merchants, though.
thunderai
Updated first post with corrected information from newly updated table.
schaapie
If you lose money it is only -1 or -2 thats so low.
MisterB
I've been ID'in everything ~40g and up since I heard of this, and you do come out way ahead. Just a note, Green weapons, runes, insignia, and weapon mods can all increase in merchant value as well. Their default value of 25g will increase after identification to a whopping 35g or so. 5g profit! I can post screens if you wish.
thunderai
Looks like the average point in which you will make money from the ID is a Before Value of 43g. There is alot of data statistics you could do with this information.
Here is the download link for the data:
http://rapidshare.com/files/96283685...golds.xls.html
not sure why there says there is 88 drops counted but 89 drops tested. Some math error in there somewhere, I was not able to find it.
Here is the download link for the data:
http://rapidshare.com/files/96283685...golds.xls.html
not sure why there says there is 88 drops counted but 89 drops tested. Some math error in there somewhere, I was not able to find it.
nebuchanezzar
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Originally Posted by Eldin
I generally would ID anything Maguuma+ on in Tyria, Kaineng+ on in Cantha, and Vabbi+ on in Elona.
Of course, if the whites are considerably far from max dmg, it's not always worth it. Good find though, I may try that out, I got a few spare Sup ID's in storage thanks to quest trophy collectors. |
thunderai
You are correct 4g per normal, 5g per superior
freaky naughty
Yeah, whoever has money problems should seriously do this. Some of my weapons go from 50 gold to 90 gold by IDing them.
xshadowwolfx
is there any difference between superior and normal id kits? Or is it just the number of IDs per storage space?
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by xshadowwolfx
is there any difference between superior and normal id kits? Or is it just the number of IDs per storage space?
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Proff
I only id HM drops, might start doing nm drops too now though.
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by thunderai
So there I was cappin' skills in Cantha when I remember reading a post some time ago about how you can increase the amount of money you make from drops if you ID them all. I did not pay much attention to it at the time; however, since I was getting lots of junk anyway I desided to give it a try.
I would track each drop I got, the color, and the amount in merchant value before and after I ID them. I did not track items that already have a value like (Soul Stones), or any Green weapon (not that I ever get any). All tests were done in Normal mode, going to the boss to be killed for capping the skill. There are only 90 drops because I did a HM run to increase my norrn rank and got 4 golds in less than 10 minutes. So I didnt think they should go on the chart. In any case here are the results: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...er/IsIDworthit Summary: By using a superior Identification Kit you increase your Net income by 1,327 gold (15g per drop). Meaning that you actually make up the cost of the ID kit and get an additional 1,327 gold. So I would suggest you ID everything. You will not make money on every ID, but over the lkong run you will definitly pay for ID kit and more. |
you should use normal ID kits to save another 100 gold, it all adds up over time.
but the sup ID kit has 100 uses for 500 gold
a normal ID kit has 25 uses for 100 gold
most of the time if you are in HM or later end areas in the game 1 drop will make up for your normal ID kit cost
Eldin
An ID kit is 100g.
A sup ID is 500g - it has 4x the uses yet costs 100g more than four normal ID kits.
BUT...generally most places where you would be IDing lots of things would be in higher end areas, where the three extra inventory slots you get by using a sup can hold three drops which, even if white, should have a merch value that makes up for the extra 100g invested.
A sup ID is 500g - it has 4x the uses yet costs 100g more than four normal ID kits.
BUT...generally most places where you would be IDing lots of things would be in higher end areas, where the three extra inventory slots you get by using a sup can hold three drops which, even if white, should have a merch value that makes up for the extra 100g invested.
360??
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Originally Posted by Eldin
An ID kit is 100g.
A sup ID is 500g - it has 4x the uses yet costs 100g more than four normal ID kits. BUT...generally most places where you would be IDing lots of things would be in higher end areas, where the three extra inventory slots you get by using a sup can hold three drops which, even if white, should have a merch value that makes up for the extra 100g invested. |
Mister Me
I have always been unindifying ALL my blue, purple and ofcourse gold drops, but I use an 'Identification Kit' nothing superior or so, because the normal one costs less per use. Ofcourse it makes no sense to unid whites, it gives just some more information, no more value.
/Canthan Alexi
/Canthan Alexi
Chronos the Defiler
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Originally Posted by Mister Me
I have always been unindifying ALL my blue, purple and ofcourse gold drops, but I use an 'Identification Kit' nothing superior or so, because the normal one costs less per use. Ofcourse it makes no sense to unid whites, it gives just some more information, no more value.
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Cimoa
I don't understand why so much work was put into testing this.
Simply open trade with the merchant look at the price he offers for the white trash then ID the white white trash and check again.
I have been doing this a lot with my 55 since finding out about it around the time HM came out and know for certain all items (from HM farming at least) are worth more when you ID them.
Good idea to post though.
Simply open trade with the merchant look at the price he offers for the white trash then ID the white white trash and check again.
I have been doing this a lot with my 55 since finding out about it around the time HM came out and know for certain all items (from HM farming at least) are worth more when you ID them.
Good idea to post though.
MisterB
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Originally Posted by Cimoa
I don't understand why so much work was put into testing this.
-snip- Good idea to post though. |
/begin rant
In my opinion, this thread proves the merchant network is a global(Tyrian) conspiracy of scammers, and it is now our duty to seek them all out and /report every one of them by name. Only then can the harassment and abuse of innocent players be stopped. ANet needs to ban these rampant scammers from continuing their wholesalse destruction of the player economy by removing the merchant conspirators from the game!
/end sarcasm
Castle Keep
IDing only costs 4gold per id, assuming your using the 100 gold kit, so as long as your item goes up in value by four your good
360??
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Originally Posted by Castle Keep
... so as long as your item goes up in value by four your good
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You Look Grim
yeah, i never knew you could ID whites
until some time ago. and i find that the only
time ID'ing whites is later in he game; otherwise you
would be losing gold.
until some time ago. and i find that the only
time ID'ing whites is later in he game; otherwise you
would be losing gold.
Enosh Khan
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Originally Posted by 360°
Just keep your Id kits in storage and they won't take room at all -> more profit.
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I remember reading something about this before also. Mabey now Ill start doing this too. Nice work!
sevin
very informative, have you considered making another one of these to see if you could get more money by salvaging the items you id and selling the stacks from the outcomes then just merching them?
thunderai
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Originally Posted by sevin
very informative, have you considered making another one of these to see if you could get more money by salvaging the items you id and selling the stacks from the outcomes then just merching them?
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Sora267
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Originally Posted by Cimoa
Simply open trade with the merchant look at the price he offers for the white trash then ID the white white trash and check again.
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Jecht Scye
I typically ID everything from:
Tyria: Crystal Desert onward
Cantha: Kaineng onward
Elona: Kourna onward
EoTN: Everything
Tyria: Crystal Desert onward
Cantha: Kaineng onward
Elona: Kourna onward
EoTN: Everything