Healing Skills vs Attack Skills

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

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E/Mo

I play a monk quite a bit and was wondering why monks are punished for trying to heal party members. If I'm using an attack skill and the foe dies before my skill can go off, I get the skill back and don't loose the energy. But if I am trying to heal a party member in trouble and he dies befroe my skills go off I loose the skill and the energy. The skill actually goes off on the dead person like he needs it now. So the question is why the double standard. Whats up? What does everyone else think?

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

this doesnt happen to me <_<

if you start an adr. attack dont you lose the adrenaline for that skill?

and you definitely dont get the energy back after you try to attack...

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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I don't remember getting energy back if an el spell goes off while the enemy dies... But then again, I don't run into many e-management problems in PvE on my el.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparks Dawnbringer
If I'm using an attack skill and the foe dies before my skill can go off, I get the skill back and don't loose the energy.
You do lose the energy.
You pay first - then you get to use the skill.
So it's the same concept for both the monky and the other suckers.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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Heal faster next time?

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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If the attack skill has started, you do lose the energy/adren. No problem here.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

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If you're using a long cast time spell, you shouldn't be If you cast it RIGHT after he dies, as in you target him, cast, he dies before it casts, it targets you.

You never get the energy back when you hit the spell, even if it doesn't go off.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

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lmao everyone gave smartass comments.

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if you start an adr. attack dont you lose the adrenaline for that skill?

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ivan.alicard

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Electric warfair

E/Me

well key word being monk...best class for keeping an entire party up and running.... its not punished to healing party member its made to heal party member :/ you can go smite if you want but just make sure the other party member knows *that is if they haven't kicked you already*

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sure your reflexes aren't just beyond bad?

Or are you using only healing prayers - and no prot prayers at all throughout the entire team?

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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Lag is also a small factor here, you start to cast/attack and your foe is already dead but youve not been updated till the split second after you hit the skill.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Lag is also a small factor here, you start to cast/attack and your foe is already dead but youve not been updated till the split second after you hit the skill.
Not really.
I have huge lag from time to time, and im usually at 500 ping, with 10FPS and it runs quite smoothly for me...:s

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

To the OP: if you have GWEN, try taking patient spirit. It's a healing spell w/ a 2 second delay before it goes off. Cast it on a teammate as you're starting to engage the enemy, while their health is in the safe zone, and it'll trigger a few seconds later. It's a way of being a little more proactive...

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaotsu
If you're using a long cast time spell, you shouldn't be If you cast it RIGHT after he dies, as in you target him, cast, he dies before it casts, it targets you.

You never get the energy back when you hit the spell, even if it doesn't go off.
this is actually wrong. i play monk all the time for PvP and if you cast the spell while target other ally is alive and s/he dies, the skill goes to ~3/4 activation and then automatically interupts it's self because there is no longer a target.

what YOU'RE talking about is if you are trying to heal target other ally (and if you're reflexes are too slow), and they die before you actually clicked the skill, then the AI will automatically reselect YOU, thus, healing yourself.