I wonder how much merchants make a day

ectos taste nasty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

You know,the ones all over town. I wonder how much they rake in per day from people selling their loot.


jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

Ye I was wondering that a while ago.
Probably more than I get from farming =]

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Repair smiths in WoW probably make the most money than anyone else in any other game, like seriously.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Zero! Merchants pay you for the loot. The question should be "What do they do with all that loot?"

Dreikki

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Repair smiths in WoW probably make the most money than anyone else in any other game, like seriously.
i should drop high school and become a blacksmith.

who's with me

Nomme Moon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Yeah, I was going to say, they're paying *you*....they don't make a penny. And considering most of their items don't sell much, I'd assume they're very much in the negatives.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Merchants are dumb traders, that's why we have 'real' money makers like Rare material traders.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Zero! Merchants pay you for the loot. The question should be "What do they do with all that loot?"
He's right. They BUY loot off you, so it'd be how much money they pay out per day. I'd wonder more where they got that money from. Do they salvage all the drops for crafting materials and sell to the materials trader or something?

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomme Moon
Yeah, I was going to say, they're paying *you*....they don't make a penny. And considering most of their items don't sell much, I'd assume they're very much in the negatives.
If they're able to keep a constant and full stock of ectos, black dyes and sup. vigor runes, I think they'd be able to afford handing out quite a lot of k each day.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
If they're able to keep a constant and full stock of ectos, black dyes and sup. vigor runes, I think they'd be able to afford handing out quite a lot of k each day.
They buy them from people

Then sell them back for more.

I bet they are rich.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Enough to buy a set of Obsidian and then some. Not that Obsidian armor is all that expensive anymore.

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazjun
He's right. They BUY loot off you, so it'd be how much money they pay out per day. I'd wonder more where they got that money from. Do they salvage all the drops for crafting materials and sell to the materials trader or something?
Then where would the material trader get the money from? Not from the people buying from the trader, because the people buying from the trader get their money from stuff sold to the merchant. (Or if doing other things, that money comes from merched stuff anyways). So the real question is: Where did the original amount of circulated cash come from!? Maybe from the Xunlai, that'd make sense seeing as they get tons of gold per day.

Brimstonez

Brimstonez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Earth?

None

E/

The Life of a Merchant

*ponders to himself* If I buy one more high req Gladius, I may be able to finally finish constructing that toilet handle, so I can flush the damn thing. I wish some idiot would sell me a Voltaic Spear, so I could catch that bloody wierd looking shark that ate my dog, down in Lion's Arch. Maybe even a crap shield I could use as an umbrella to stop the mountain eagles using me as doo-doo target practice...

halbatross

halbatross

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stop Stealing

N/Me

Would be nice to see those statistics, like how much material/dye traders make per day from buying low and selling high, which merchant gets the most business in the game world, how much gold players generate per day (and how much they spend), etc.

Oh, and of course, how much money goes down the Boardwalk drain in a weekend event.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Most of the crap that gets merched, wouldn't even be wanted by the merchants. They'd just salvage it and sell to the Materials guys. So it's THOSE guys who would make the most.

fearfactory

fearfactory

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Tremble In [FeaR]

W/

don't you guys ever wonder who supplies the enemies with their weapons? sheesh. Simple.. Black market FTW..

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Actually...

My guess would be that the merchants turn it around and sell it to NPCs looking to build an army. So what's merch fodder for you could be going to the White Mantle, the Shining Blade, and so on depending on who you sell it to. When building an army, getting a large number of weapons reasonably cheaply becomes a higher priority than getting the perfect weapon. It's not like you're going to be able to equip an army at 5k a pop from the weapon crafters, after all...

"Precious" weapons would be going into collections, museums, and used for ceremonial purposes. The "Show Me The Money" insignia is a little weirder, but it may produce some sort of glamour for the weapon that makes it appear to be Precious.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Never thought how rich they would be with all the things that 'accidently' get merched like ectos, shards, lockpicks etc.. when you click to fast...

But they must be pretty rich xD

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

They are very rich cause they resell the items you sell them for 150% profit.

Brewmaster

Brewmaster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Just a ramblin' man, no place to call home...

W/

The REAL question is...how much do henchmen and heroes make a day?

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

I was once running around an explorable area and saw some merchants with big sacks selling all their vendor trash to monsters.
Monsters have money and probably sentimental attachments to things taken off their killed friends and would pay anything for them back.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
The question should be "What do they do with all that loot?"
I say they melt it down and make counterfeit gold coins to pay people for their trash, err I mean loot.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

They pay that loot as tax to the prince ruric.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki
They pay that loot as tax to the prince ruric.
So a dead guy is collecting taxes?

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

9001g I'd say

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
So a dead guy is collecting taxes?
OMG! Dude! Spoiler tags!

*stomps away and throws out Prophecies in anger*

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Your fogetting when people accidently sell their golds aswell. darn i sold my req 7 uber sword of uberness....merchant rushes to kamedem spamming WTS

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewmaster
The REAL question is...how much do henchmen and heroes make a day?
Seriously, lol.... Koss must be so rich by now! And what do heros spend their riches on anyways? It sure isn't equipment...

cooldude33806

cooldude33806

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Texas, and New Mexico

Lovers Of Our Treasure [LooT]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven214
Seriously, lol.... Koss must be so rich by now! And what do heros spend their riches on anyways? It sure isn't equipment...
Ale, he should be max ale hound level by now hrmm.....

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven214
Seriously, lol.... Koss must be so rich by now! And what do heros spend their riches on anyways? It sure isn't equipment...
I think he spends it on getting high and women.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I salvage 90% of the white/blue drops that i actually pick up, so they dont get alot of stuff from me, other then crap golds with a good merch value.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Merchant economic theory:

1. Buy millions of non-max white weapons
2. ??
3. Profit

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
Merchant economic theory:

1. Buy millions of non-max white weapons
2. ??
3. Profit
Its simple really...make a deal with Material Traders.

1. Buy millions of non-max white weapons.
2. Salvage
3. Sell materials at about 75% of their value to Material Traders.
4. Profit

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazjun
He's right. They BUY loot off you, so it'd be how much money they pay out per day. I'd wonder more where they got that money from. Do they salvage all the drops for crafting materials and sell to the materials trader or something?
I have wondered what happens to crafting materials, dyes, runes, etc. that are sold to the merchant instead of their respective traders. The traders sell what we sell to them. Does that mean if 'we' don't sell to traders, they would eventually run out? Or do the merchants do as kazjun asked?

*Maybe sees way to change the supply in the supply and demand scenerio.*

thunderai

thunderai

Community Works Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Centre of the Aerodrome

R/Mo

well they should resell the dye to ther proper merchant at player selling price.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perkunas
I have wondered what happens to crafting materials, dyes, runes, etc. that are sold to the merchant instead of their respective traders. The traders sell what we sell to them. Does that mean if 'we' don't sell to traders, they would eventually run out? Or do the merchants do as kazjun asked?

*Maybe sees way to change the supply in the supply and demand scenerio.*
Yes. It's even happened occasionally - Minor Vigor runes had a tendency to sell out when a new chapter came out, for instance, and each time it's happened they've been more expensive when they came back on the market.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Oh, the merchants use their super secret Salvage Kits they only keep to themselves, to salvage all the items into Ectos. They then chip in at the Rare Material Trader.

And what does the Rare Material Trader do? Easy! He makes a fortune re-selling them to lazy eBay goldbuyers who want easy FoW!

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

..........they take negative gains from buying loot etc...

and the nerfs from loot drops compensate for the lost

QQ

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

interesting question, but probably billions+...++?...+++?.

minus the amount they buy from players....++amount they make from traders(kits etc)....money pretty much recycles. (to us, to them haha...endless)

lol

lietzaum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

VILE

N/

they only time the mercents make money is when the normal player is says CRAP and sells something they shouldn't have sad but true it is a way for the game to get rid of excess stuff that nobody in there right mind would keep or use