The letter æ is not allowed?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I am attempting to make a new character and am being told that the character æ is 'not English' and that I may not use it. Now, it's part of a name I've commonly used in DnD, and I would prefer to use it rather than the incorrect substitute 'ae' that is often used. Is there a way to use this letter?

My account is currently located in America and is tied to PlayNC.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

it is not part of the standard 'american' english so it is not allowed---sorry.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

No..............

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
it is not part of the standard 'american' english so it is not allowed---sorry.
Ok. Are there any account settings that do allow it?

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

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cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

account setting no, other language copies of the game....maybe. The asian copy of the game allows numbers and chinese characters so I would have to say that one might allow it...

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Hm. Now does that work with an existing account, and if so is there any way to change a PlayNC account's settings for that?

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

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Yeah, you need to have an asian account do to cool stuff

Sometimes I really wish I had one :<

EDIT: No, there are no settings you can change.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Then why was there previously an option to change Guild Wars account continent ingame? It is gone now.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

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That's different. Before American/Euro accounts couldn't go to Asian districts and now they can (Korea only atm) so there's no need for that option. It had a lot to do with favour etc.

Basically, there is nothing you can do. End of story.

Bye

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Ok. I'll go bother the PlayNC support staff again then.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

if you want it sooo badly just buy a copy of the asian gw....I am sure they are out there for sale some where.....tech support...oxymoron. goodluckwiththat.

Luminarus

Luminarus

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

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Good luck with getting ur the funky symbol in ur name, but i highly doubt it will happen. I have never seen any letters like that ingame which makes me think either
a) they game font CANT display them in which case any amount of QQing to TechSupport will do nothing

OR

b) You need a game version in the language that came from, in which case they will probably tell u to go purchase a copy of the game in that language.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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You can't use characters that cannot by typed on a basic keyboard from your own territory because then other people in game will have trouble typing your name in features like wisp, friends list, guild invites reporting etc.

Its an obvious reason no amount of pestering support can change everyone elses keyboards.

And before anyone says it alt+numpad is fairly complex ot the average pc user and most gw players wont even know about it, basic keyboard in this case willl be the qwerty keyset.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
You can't use characters that cannot by typed on a basic keyboard from your own territory because then other people in game will have trouble typing your name in features like wisp, friends list, guild invites reporting etc.

Its an obvious reason no amount of pestering support can change everyone elses keyboards.
True, that. I still see a lot of people running around with un-typable (not sure if that's a word :P Firefox seems to believe it isn't) names though, so I surmise they are willing to make exceptions at times.

EDIT: ALT+145 is not hard. æ. Anyone can do that, easily. All keyboards come with a number pad.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

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Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

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It's not a letter of the English alphabet, so why would it be allowed?

Numbers, latvian characters, wingdings, ASCII art - where would you draw the line?

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

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What sound does 'æ' make anyway? I never learnt to read the phoenetic alphabet (the only place I've seen 'æ' used in English).

Numa Pompilius

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In modern usage it is pronounced "e", like in ebony.
It was, together with a number of other nordic letters, used in ancient English, but like "Þ" fell by the wayside a long time ago.

Snograt

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Nuh uh. æ is a ligature and is pronounced "ee", as in encyclopædia.

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Æ is still used in Norwegian languages, maybe Swedish and Danish as well, but I can't remember >< And it's definately not pronounced like in encyclopedia o.O

Snograt

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It is in modern (British) English. Americans never got the hang of it, so whenever used in the States, a single e is substituted. Anyone ever heard of Æon Flux?

See the Wikipædia entry ^_^

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I like how this thread is going

Just for the record, here's a sample of what I've made by hounding various companies over defective products or discontent with my purchase.

- xbox 360
- $4,750 american
- a new microwave
- nVidia 8800GT
- 1 bottle of hand lotion (don't ask)

Seriously, when something breaks or wears out, don't just buy a new one. Contact the company and complain until they just send you something to get you to stop bothering them. Use paper letters. Unlike emails, they can't just delete them and claim there was a server error. Whining does pay off

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Whining does pay off
Unless the game doesn't support that particular character, in which case there is literally no chance they'll rewrite the code for you.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Unless the game doesn't support that particular character, in which case there is literally no chance they'll rewrite the code for you.
No, it does, it works in All Chat.

Kakumei

Kakumei

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
No, it does, it works in All Chat.
That particular character in names, rather. I know I've never seen it, and I've certainly seen a lot of names, though surely I could be mistaken--I still wouldn't get my hopes up.

The Meth

The Meth

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Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
You can't use characters that cannot by typed on a basic keyboard from your own territory because then other people in game will have trouble typing your name in features like wisp, friends list, guild invites reporting etc.
Its an obvious reason no amount of pestering support can change everyone elses keyboards.
And before anyone says it alt+numpad is fairly complex ot the average pc user and most gw players wont even know about it, basic keyboard in this case willl be the qwerty keyset.
That's exactly why this won't happen. 99% of PC users won't know how to type the characters. It's just a rather meaningless name, suck it up and get over it. No need to rewrite half the character creation system just so you can have a special name.

Evaine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

KORE

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Well, good luck with your campaign. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Covah

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
No, it does, it works in All Chat.
thats so you can talk to people in other languages. You can use letters with accents on them to talk to people n french, but you can't make names with accents. Its the same thing.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
That's exactly why this won't happen. 99% of PC users won't know how to type the characters. It's just a rather meaningless name, suck it up and get over it. No need to rewrite half the character creation system just so you can have a special name.
- There is no rewriting of the character system needed, Gw already supports it, simply flags it as not permitted in names.

- Due to the background of this particular name I would prefer to keep it accurate. So I plan to pester them for a few days and see how it goes. My hopes are not high, but I like to at least try at stuff instead of just quitting.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

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Same is true for numbers, latvian letters, and Kanji as is true for your danish æ: they're not English letters and hence not allowed in names, but they are allowed in chat.

Well, good luck. The windmills are waiting.

Coloneh

Coloneh

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Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
EDIT: ALT+145 is not hard. æ. Anyone can do that, easily. All keyboards come with a number pad.
my keyboard has no number pad.

plenty of people use the Zboard Merc

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

My Zboard Merc does have a number pad, and if I have numlock off I can still use the number keys across the top of the qwerty keyboard.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

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WHERE DO YOU THINK

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æ hmmm never knew how to right this cool little letter æ

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Only use I have seen for æ is for Mediæval Bæbes. Oh, and Æon Flux of course. To state that æ is part of the english language is like saying that Latin is English.

Tachyon

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
it is not part of the standard 'american' english so it is not allowed---sorry.
It's not available to use on my copy either, and I'm in England using the Euro servers. Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?

Dawgboy

Dawgboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ohio

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If they started allowing freaky alt+whatever characters in names I could see a whole army of bots/griefers using them and people not knowing what to type to put them on ignore. No thanks.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?
Recite the English (British) alphabet from a to z. Notice what's NOT in there?
I don't know where Wikipedia got the idea that æ is still in use in British English, because it's not really; just like in the US (incidentally Æon Flux is a *US* cartoon) it is used only as a stylistic touch, a novelty.

gremlin

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Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
It's not available to use on my copy either, and I'm in England using the Euro servers. Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?
Agreed
There shouldn't be any such thing as "Standard American English" certainly not in written form.

It should be referred to as Standard American

edit
The AE as a single symbol is used in many languages and it is important but generally not used in modern English.
It really comes into usage for Latin words or phrases.
We could go into Ligatures and Latin Dipthongs etc but I certainly havn't had need to use them in my life.
I should spell ACHAEOLOGY as ARCHÆOLOGY It is more accurate a spelling but it is inconvenient to have to hold down alt and type 0198 all the time.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

there is a trend to call what we speak in the usa as american instead of american english as the two languages become farther apart from the original english spoke/written years ago....
When I was teaching 'englsh' in japan we had a very long discussion about the two ---and soon we realized that american will be realized as its own language separate from english ....
so what we teach in schools is now called standard american english. ugh.

Curse You

Curse You

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South Pole

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Why not just use the phonetic equivalent to the 'æ' instead? If you just want it to look cool, then you'll have no luck convincing anyone.

Just look at the O-Umlaut in German. The phonetic equivalent in 'oe' because it produces the same desired sound.