[card]Locust's Fury[/card][card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card][card]Caltrops[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Death's Charge[/card][card]Way of Perfection[/card][card]Shadow Refuge[/card]
Attributes:
Dagger Mastery - 11 + 1 +2
Critical Strikes - 11 + 1
Shadow Arts - 5
(Not sure if Shadow Arts can go that high. If it can go higher, or not that high, make it lesser/higher)
You can also change out [card]Flail[/card] with either [card]Flurry[/card] or [card]Frenzy[/card].....Depending on what you will be encountering.
Usage:
This build is entirely DPS and glass cannon. Glass cannon meaning deadly, but also very fragile. Empathy or Insidious Parasite will rape this build into oblivion in about 3 seconds or less.
Equipment:
Vampiric Weapon with +15% Damage (while Enchanted) and +30 HP thingy
Enough Equipment to have at least 30 or 35 energy to maintain Locust's Fury, Critical Eye, and Way of Perfection.
Low DPS Assassin
tehshadowninjar
phan
.. Sry but 2 points ;
1 : Assasins aren't ment for dps or semi-pressure but for spiking
2 : moebius + "insert assasin skills " would get higher dps =)
Nice try on the build though =) give it a try in RA and compare it with other builds
1 : Assasins aren't ment for dps or semi-pressure but for spiking
2 : moebius + "insert assasin skills " would get higher dps =)
Nice try on the build though =) give it a try in RA and compare it with other builds
tehshadowninjar
Half of the assassin builds I use are pressure and DPS, guess what? They're better than most of the assassins out there. And FYI? I'm sick and tired of people saying "Moebius this, Moebius that". Sheesh, you see that frickin stupid elite in EVERY build. Make something original already. Also, guess what? If you go against a standard melee with this build, you always win. No one can continiously block (standard melee, keep in mind), and I'm continiously wailing on him with Crit Defs, Way of Perfection, which is about 100 health about every 4 seconds, then Shadow Refuge, and also Death's Charge. And you also can't keep that DPS up with the Assassin skills 24/7 without constantly spamming Deadly Paradox. >_>
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
And FYI? I'm sick and tired of people saying "Moebius this, Moebius that". Sheesh, you see that frickin stupid elite in EVERY build. Make something original already.
Another one ...
Bobby2
'against standard melee' ---> teh lulz. AL80 (assuming you have the brains to swap to Ele daggers) means daggers do shite even on crits. Hell, he might get away with just Mending.
About 6 Sin Elites are PvP worthy atm. LF is certainly not one of them.
Follow Pyro's link plz.
About 6 Sin Elites are PvP worthy atm. LF is certainly not one of them.
Follow Pyro's link plz.
TheGreatPotato
It may be a "stupid elite" but moebius allows you to constantly spam "high dps" since an assassin's true strength is using the +damage skills and not trying to rely on low damage auto attacking.
Div
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
Also, guess what? If you go against a standard melee with this build, you always win. No one can continiously block (standard melee, keep in mind), and I'm continiously wailing on him with Crit Defs, Way of Perfection, which is about 100 health about every 4 seconds, then Shadow Refuge, and also Death's Charge. And you also can't keep that DPS up with the Assassin skills 24/7 without constantly spamming Deadly Paradox. >_>
No one cares about block when the main thing that kills you in PvE are 600 damage spirit rifts and 300 damage bsurges.
The Meth
You are basing your whole build around 7-17 damage daggers? When assassins have skills that can deal 100-200 damage easy? I smell fail.
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
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I'm sick and tired of people saying "Moebius this, Moebius that". Sheesh, you see that frickin stupid elite in EVERY build. Make something original already.
Want to know what Moebius is used often? Because its pretty good.
Original does not mean good, it means no-one else uses it. And often, there is a good reason for that.
edit: the idea of a frenzy sin trying to dps scares me. Trying to go toe to toe with enemies when you have the equivilent of 30 armor is suicide. You lose for even mentioning that skill on a sin.
Original does not mean good, it means no-one else uses it. And often, there is a good reason for that.
edit: the idea of a frenzy sin trying to dps scares me. Trying to go toe to toe with enemies when you have the equivilent of 30 armor is suicide. You lose for even mentioning that skill on a sin.
Div
If locusts fury works on scythes, that might be relatively hot. As it stands now, the DPS is probably even lower than most non-moebius combos.
N1ghtstalker
aren't builds supposed to like... have attackskills in them?
phan
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
aren't builds supposed to like... have attackskills in them?
no ; ofc not .. then you are running a gimmick which is badzz
Ekelon
I lol'd when I saw this.
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] is win. The reason everyone uses it, is because it has the best PvE DPS. If your no combo build was better, then today you would be trying to promote a Moebius sin, but that's not the case now is it?
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] is win. The reason everyone uses it, is because it has the best PvE DPS. If your no combo build was better, then today you would be trying to promote a Moebius sin, but that's not the case now is it?
Sir Pandra Pierva
while i hate to say it
mobious spam is the best dps in pve.
though it is jsut as boring as playning ursans blessing.
i like to run AP spikes though mine got nerfed with the bls nerf
mobious spam is the best dps in pve.
though it is jsut as boring as playning ursans blessing.
i like to run AP spikes though mine got nerfed with the bls nerf
dicecube
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
while i hate to say it
mobious spam is the best dps in pve.
though it is jsut as boring as playning ursans blessing.
i like to run AP spikes though mine got nerfed with the bls nerf don't u use healing hands as your elite on your sin? you preached that a lot before http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=assassin
mobious spam is the best dps in pve.
though it is jsut as boring as playning ursans blessing.
i like to run AP spikes though mine got nerfed with the bls nerf don't u use healing hands as your elite on your sin? you preached that a lot before http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=assassin
BlackSephir
What is this, what's the purpose of this build? Clearly not dps... Because you're depending on crits from 7-17 weapon.
And FYI- nobody cares if it's more original than Moebius Spam. Moebius Spam is simply better, has higer DPS and even allows you to put other skill (I use Save Yourselves to do something with that adrenaline).
And Locust's Fury sucks
And FYI- nobody cares if it's more original than Moebius Spam. Moebius Spam is simply better, has higer DPS and even allows you to put other skill (I use Save Yourselves to do something with that adrenaline).
And Locust's Fury sucks
Alex the Great
you no what will happen if you use that build?
tehshadowninjar
Uh, heh, NO. I don't use it in PvE, only in PvP. (Not much organization in Gladiator's Arena), and it does quite well. x.x
moriz
my mending wammo works better. gg
tehshadowninjar
Rofl, uh, no. Contact me on here by PM, I'll scrim ya in-game and rape you then ^.^
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by dicecube
don't u use healing hands as your elite on your sin? you preached that a lot before http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=assassin
nice necro numbnuts
and yes i used to. that got boring that was for pve only.
seriously when using the search function try checkin the dates.
and yes i used to. that got boring that was for pve only.
seriously when using the search function try checkin the dates.
FlamingMetroid
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everybody uses this skill because it's the best skill to use.
it gives the highest constant DPS an assassin primary can pour out, and since nothing has yet to match it, people will always continue to use it.
Yoshikuni Mahsu
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
dicecube
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
nice necro numbnuts
and yes i used to. that got boring that was for pve only.
seriously when using the search function try checkin the dates. I didn't necro.. I just remember u said that a lot before. And look at the original thread I posted, I even replied to it back then and didn't even bump it up. You should be thanking me
and yes i used to. that got boring that was for pve only.
seriously when using the search function try checkin the dates. I didn't necro.. I just remember u said that a lot before. And look at the original thread I posted, I even replied to it back then and didn't even bump it up. You should be thanking me
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by Ekelon
I lol'd when I saw this.
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] is win. The reason everyone uses it, is because it has the best PvE DPS. If your no combo build was better, then today you would be trying to promote a Moebius sin, but that's not the case now is it?
there you go from the pro himself
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] is win. The reason everyone uses it, is because it has the best PvE DPS. If your no combo build was better, then today you would be trying to promote a Moebius sin, but that's not the case now is it?
there you go from the pro himself
Mesmer in Need
Daggers have the worst auto attacking damage of all the weapons. Even wands do better damage with req met. Speeding up the attack wont do anything. People use moebius cause it works.
Beomagi
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
[card]Locust's Fury[/card][card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card][card]Caltrops[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Death's Charge[/card][card]Way of Perfection[/card][card]Shadow Refuge[/card]
Attributes:
Dagger Mastery - 11 + 1 +2
Critical Strikes - 11 + 1
Shadow Arts - 5
(Not sure if Shadow Arts can go that high. If it can go higher, or not that high, make it lesser/higher)
You can also change out [card]Flail[/card] with either [card]Flurry[/card] or [card]Frenzy[/card].....Depending on what you will be encountering.
Usage:
This build is entirely DPS and glass cannon. Glass cannon meaning deadly, but also very fragile. Empathy or Insidious Parasite will rape this build into oblivion in about 3 seconds or less.
Equipment:
Vampiric Weapon with +15% Damage (while Enchanted) and +30 HP thingy
Enough Equipment to have at least 30 or 35 energy to maintain Locust's Fury, Critical Eye, and Way of Perfection.
I surely hope nooone actually thinks this is serious. I can't. It looks like an initial attempt to make a highly defensive tank-sin. I don't this was even tested with the dummys on temple of balthasar. This CAN be run to snare attackers and keep them off softies, but nothing here ignores armor. against a 120 armor target, we're looking at what? 14 or 15 damage tops? not even counting damage reduction.
Still, best I can think of locusts fury is to make use of "event on attack" properties. in this case it's critical strike for energy and to replenish critical defenses (though it still lacks assured crits).
tehshadowninjar I empathise with you
[card]empathy[/card]
Seriously, if you consider having an orders necro with barbs/markofpain, A couple of these can do pretty mean damage. Consider a team build with heros if you intend to run with this.
Attributes:
Dagger Mastery - 11 + 1 +2
Critical Strikes - 11 + 1
Shadow Arts - 5
(Not sure if Shadow Arts can go that high. If it can go higher, or not that high, make it lesser/higher)
You can also change out [card]Flail[/card] with either [card]Flurry[/card] or [card]Frenzy[/card].....Depending on what you will be encountering.
Usage:
This build is entirely DPS and glass cannon. Glass cannon meaning deadly, but also very fragile. Empathy or Insidious Parasite will rape this build into oblivion in about 3 seconds or less.
Equipment:
Vampiric Weapon with +15% Damage (while Enchanted) and +30 HP thingy
Enough Equipment to have at least 30 or 35 energy to maintain Locust's Fury, Critical Eye, and Way of Perfection.
I surely hope nooone actually thinks this is serious. I can't. It looks like an initial attempt to make a highly defensive tank-sin. I don't this was even tested with the dummys on temple of balthasar. This CAN be run to snare attackers and keep them off softies, but nothing here ignores armor. against a 120 armor target, we're looking at what? 14 or 15 damage tops? not even counting damage reduction.
Still, best I can think of locusts fury is to make use of "event on attack" properties. in this case it's critical strike for energy and to replenish critical defenses (though it still lacks assured crits).
tehshadowninjar I empathise with you
[card]empathy[/card]
Seriously, if you consider having an orders necro with barbs/markofpain, A couple of these can do pretty mean damage. Consider a team build with heros if you intend to run with this.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by dicecube
I didn't necro.. I just remember u said that a lot before. And look at the original thread I posted, I even replied to it back then and didn't even bump it up. You should be thanking me
lol. and yet that was from close to a year ago. that was the kind of necro i was talking about. not the thread kind. lol that thread died hard a long time ago.
Div
Changed the title to reflect others' opinion and to be a little more accurate.
Clarissa F
Didn't we have a "tanking sin" thread that was epic fail?
Flail on a sin is bad. Flurry on a sin, reducing the damage from the already weak 7-17 damage daggers is bad, especially with no true dagger skills to amplify damage. Eles and warriors tank better than you, which is about all this build will do. You do enough damage to keep yourself alive, but you won't kill anything.
Think about how to do the assassin's job better, not about how to try to do jobs other professions will always do better.
Flail on a sin is bad. Flurry on a sin, reducing the damage from the already weak 7-17 damage daggers is bad, especially with no true dagger skills to amplify damage. Eles and warriors tank better than you, which is about all this build will do. You do enough damage to keep yourself alive, but you won't kill anything.
Think about how to do the assassin's job better, not about how to try to do jobs other professions will always do better.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Changed the title to reflect others' opinion and to be a little more accurate.
i love you
that made my hour...
that made my hour...
Cherng Butter
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Changed the title to reflect others' opinion and to be a little more accurate.
Haha ooooh I couldn't figure out why the OP was advocating a build that didn't do any damage...lawl
tehshadowninjar
Sad how most people shoot down a build without first trying it, or trying it against the creator. *Sighs*
Bobby2
Sad how one can mistake a turd for a bar of gold.
itsvictor
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Changed the title to reflect others' opinion and to be a little more accurate.
You made me lol...
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by tehshadowninjar
Sad how most people shoot down a build without first trying it, or trying it against the creator. *Sighs*
It's sad that you try out every genius build that some guy on guru posts.
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks.
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks.
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Changed the title to reflect others' opinion and to be a little more accurate.
I enjoyed it.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
It's sad that you try out every genius build that some guy on guru posts.
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks. hundred blades is nooby you should use
[skill]Healing hands[/skill]
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks. hundred blades is nooby you should use
[skill]Healing hands[/skill]
Clarissa F
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
hundred blades is nooby you should use
[skill]Healing hands[/skill] [skill]obsidian flesh[/skill]
gogogo 12chars
[skill]Healing hands[/skill] [skill]obsidian flesh[/skill]
gogogo 12chars
FlamingMetroid
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
It's sad that you try out every genius build that some guy on guru posts.
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks. I do believe you are in need of another res, and some frenzy-healsig
W/Mo
Hundred Blades, Healing Breeze, Mending, Sun and Moon Slash, Ressurection, Orison of Healing, Sever Artery, Gash.
Try this one out, it rawks. I do believe you are in need of another res, and some frenzy-healsig
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
I do believe you are in need of another res, and some frenzy-healsig
QFT
frenzy is mah friend
frenzy is mah friend