What do People think of Patient Spirit?
Sir Tidus
Hey, I was just wondering what you guys think about the skill Patient Spirit (EotN). Do you guys think that it's good? To me, it seems to be the only monk healing skill that can be used to do a decent amount of self healing. And the 2 second delay isn't too bad to me, because the casting time is extremely fast; compared to healing signet, you get healed in around the same time and you don't take double damage and can't be interrupted, also you can do things for the 2 seconds instead of just standing there like when using healing signet. I feel that this is a good healing skill for a W/Mo. What do you people think?
SleepyLuxon
Wammo much?
Stormlord Alex
It's still terrible on a W/Mo, because if you spec Healing Prayers you're not speccing something useful. And that energy is better used on Bull's Strike, Frenzy, Rending Touch, Mending Touch, etc.
Just stick to Healsig / Lion's / Natural Healing.
It's 'alright' on a Monk. Notably, self-targeting, fairly strong and practically uninterruptable, and synergizes well with Healer's Covenant (meta/gimmick in TA atm, iirc
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Just stick to Healsig / Lion's / Natural Healing.
It's 'alright' on a Monk. Notably, self-targeting, fairly strong and practically uninterruptable, and synergizes well with Healer's Covenant (meta/gimmick in TA atm, iirc
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Rexion
I've tried it on my monk.
It is nothing too special. I'd say it is just kind of a wasted skill slot because you could just cast Ethereal Light over it.
But that is just my opinion. There are some classes that require an enchant to do some things, and the little heal at the end can help. I guess?
I donno >.<
Depends on the player really.
It is nothing too special. I'd say it is just kind of a wasted skill slot because you could just cast Ethereal Light over it.
But that is just my opinion. There are some classes that require an enchant to do some things, and the little heal at the end can help. I guess?
I donno >.<
Depends on the player really.
Sir Tidus
Well, for a W/Mo, there really isn't many good healing options. I just think that healing signet is too easy to interrupt and the double damage will kill you quickly. Are the people who are saying that Patient Spirit is bad on a W/Mo just because they say that all monk healing skills are bad on a W/Mo? Do you do all warrior attributes and skills then? If so, what's the point of a second profession then? Thanks for the replies.
Winterclaw
It's a better spell to use on dervishs than orison. Aside from that, not too much use.
Sir Tidus
Ok, but as I said, why do people say that all monk healing skills are bad on a W/Mo? Do you do all warrior attributes and skills then? If so, what's the point of a second profession then?
Stormlord Alex
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Well, for a W/Mo, there really isn't many good healing options. I just think that healing signet is too easy to interrupt and the double damage will kill you quickly. Are the people who are saying that Patient Spirit is bad on a W/Mo just because they say that all monk healing skills are bad on a W/Mo?
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What warriors don't need is preservation-type skills. They've got naturally high armour and generally more useful things in their own lines - if you don't like Healsig, Lion's Comfort > Healing Prayers.
Oh and another thing - a lot of the best secondary proffesion skills can be used with minimal investment - Shock does all it needs to at 0 Air Magic, for instance; as does Mending Touch.
the kurzick eater
alex is totally correct saying that it would be misplaced attributes
however i find it somewhat useful, though, not as effective as RoF on a monk (reversal of fortune). i sometimes use it in RA as a sort of second "big heal". but RoF is the way to go Imo.
however i find it somewhat useful, though, not as effective as RoF on a monk (reversal of fortune). i sometimes use it in RA as a sort of second "big heal". but RoF is the way to go Imo.
Winterclaw
Depends on the primary. Mostly your secondary should be used to round yourself out. If you go w/mo you should be bringing a condition removal and hex removal depending on the area you are going into. Since healing skills don't have much in that field until cure hex, you are better off not using them.
The only exception I can see is a sword warrior in proph. WoH even at an 8 spec would be better as a self heal than 100 blades would be for offense.
The only exception I can see is a sword warrior in proph. WoH even at an 8 spec would be better as a self heal than 100 blades would be for offense.
Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Depends on the primary. Mostly your secondary should be used to round yourself out. If you go w/mo you should be bringing a condition removal and hex removal depending on the area you are going into. Since healing skills don't have much in that field until cure hex, you are better off not using them.
The only exception I can see is a sword warrior in proph. WoH even at an 8 spec would be better as a self heal than 100 blades would be for offense. |
Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by the kurzick eater
alex is totally correct saying that it would be misplaced attributes
however i find it somewhat useful, though, not as effective as RoF on a monk (reversal of fortune). i sometimes use it in RA as a sort of second "big heal". but RoF is the way to go Imo. |
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
Does that change as you progress through the game?
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Anyho, Healing Prayers = bad, "Watch yourself!" = good.
mrmango
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
Yes! Word of Healing is absolutely the most amazing self heal there is! Too bad it's an elite, which means I can't use it if I want to use 100 blades.
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Yea monsters do more dmg later in PVE. RoF is great for being dmg negative more than the heal. and also, edit posts, don't double post please.
Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by mrmango
100 blades sucks. Use sun and moon slash. or axes and triple chop in pve.
Yea monsters do more dmg later in PVE. RoF is great for being dmg negative more than the heal. and also, edit posts, don't double post please. |
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
The only exception I can see is a sword warrior in proph. WoH even at an 8 spec would be better as a self heal than 100 blades would be for offense.
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[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]sprint[/skill][skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
(@ Tidus, do not use ^^^ that build. It's for lulz)
Winterclaw
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
Yes! Word of Healing is absolutely the most amazing self heal there is! Too bad it's an elite, which means I can't use it if I want to use 100 blades.
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Don't use 100 blades. And the only reason I suggested WoH is that the elites for sword warriors in proph are pretty blah.
Sir Tidus
What should I use as my elite then? I have Proph and EotN. Dragon Slash is a factions skill, but on wiki that says there are capture locations for it in EotN. Is it possible for me to get it? I wonder... WoH an acceptable solution? Maybe Glad's Defense?
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
What should I use as my elite then? I have Proph and EotN. Dragon Slash is a factions skill, but on wiki that says there are capture locations for it in EotN. Is it possible for me to get it? I wonder... WoH an acceptable solution? Maybe Glad's Defense?
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No, really.
Swords are pretty trash by comparison without a decent elite like DSlash, and the niche support elites that can be run on a sword guy are generally for PvP purposes - I've yet to see any reason to run "Charge!" or Bull's Charge in PvE.
edit: while you can cap DSlash in EotN, without having the Factions campaign it's locked and you can't use it.
MsMassacre
I like it on my monk. It's fast and pretty cheap for the amt of healing. Obviously with the delay, it's not ideal for a last minute save, but it has its uses.
If yer a derv looking for a cheap and spammable enchant to trigger mysticism, I'd suggest RoF over patient.
If yer a derv looking for a cheap and spammable enchant to trigger mysticism, I'd suggest RoF over patient.
Lady Lozza
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
edit: while you can cap DSlash in EotN, without having the Factions campaign it's locked and you can't use it.
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Winterclaw
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Eviscerate.
No, really. Swords are pretty trash by comparison without a decent elite like DSlash, and the niche support elites that can be run on a sword guy are generally for PvP purposes. |
Even though it isn't as good in PvE as Dslash, I'm also partial to quivering blade. In PvP, I think cripslash is the current king for swords.
Kamara
Patient spirit = Good on monks. Nice synergy with Dismiss condition or Dwayna's Kiss.
On a w/mo though it's trash. As others have said, you're a warrior. Stick to killing things. As for why does GW have secondaries, well you can be /Mo for the hard resurrect spell, or mending touch. Your monks have the job of keeping you upright, you just worry about chopping down the red dots
On a w/mo though it's trash. As others have said, you're a warrior. Stick to killing things. As for why does GW have secondaries, well you can be /Mo for the hard resurrect spell, or mending touch. Your monks have the job of keeping you upright, you just worry about chopping down the red dots
DarkGanni
I often see it used in both PvE and PvP personally I think its good.
my 2cents
my 2cents
Sha Noran
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Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
edit: while you can cap DSlash in EotN, without having the Factions campaign it's locked and you can't use it. |
RavagerOfDreams
patient spirit is like healing prayers RoF
Ultra Mega
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
Really?! How does that work? If you capture it how can it still be locked? Isn't it unlocked and doesn't your character know the skill? Have you seen this done before? Are you sure about this? I was going to capture it.
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Winterclaw
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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
patient spirit is like healing prayers RoF
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Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by Ultra Mega
You need to own the campaign it is from to be able to use it. If it does let you cap it there will be a padlock icon over the skill indicating you will not be able to use it... until you buy factions. Not sure if it lets you cap it or not since i have all campaigns.
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Sir Tidus
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Except it doesn't stop any damage from happening...
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shoyon456
beautiful on a dervish (i should know)
and more enchants that work similar to this are needed!
and more enchants that work similar to this are needed!
BlueSS
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
WoH split pally gogo
[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]sprint[/skill][skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill] (@ Tidus, do not use ^^^ that build. It's for lulz) |
1 up and 2 down
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
So you are sure that I will not be able to use it?
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maraxusofk
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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
blah blah blah blah blah I feel that this is a good healing skill for a W/Mo. blah blah blah
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