The REAL real only good use for locust's fury

Crippie its Tom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada!

none atm

R/A

A/mo
[card]Locust's fury[/card]
[card]Critical Eye[/card]
[card]Judge's Insight[/card]
[card]Strength of honor[/card]
[card]Shadow Refuge[/card]
[card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

optional-
[card]Death's Charge[/card]
[card]Mirrored stance[/card]
anything you'd like

Approximate Attributes-
dagger mastery 11+1+(1/2)
critical strikes 10+(2-3)
smiting prayers 8
rest into shadow arts +1

equipment- Zealous/Ebon/Vampyric Daggers of Enchanting/Fortitude

So with that you should be dual striking almost every hit, and critical striking quite often.

so you should do around 40ish dmg normal strikes, with about 54 on criticals

so thats about 48 continuous dps.

it's good(ish) for pressure

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I would like to use this post to apologize to /sassi for starting that thread asking about this skill a few weeks ago. Since then, there have been 3 more threads about this skill.


@the op: Mirrored stance isn't all that great. Frankly the only place I'd use a build like this is if I was going into an undead heavy area... and then I'd probably use DB+MS while using Aura of Holy Might on myself.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The bottom line is that base dagger damage sucks no matter how high your critical % is. You can even maintain Strength of Honor if you really want to on a moebius bar. I'd take the "Save Yourselves" spammer over this.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

1v1 sin builds are srs bsns, guys. Sin bars are determined by how well you can 1v1 another sin. Listen to tehshadowninjar, he knows everything. After all, he *did* post that epic "Low DPS assassin" build.

I think the last time I used locusts fury was during dualsmite, when I was testing out characters that were capable of pressure-spiking with both locusts and an attack combo. Obviously, not needing to carry the smite skills myself freed up a lot of attribute and skill slots (and with the smites coming from a monk, it gave me a lot more +damage).

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

So I did go and hit the DPS master on the isle to test this out. If you have barbs, orders, AND strength of honor, and are using flail (or maybe flurry) to fire away, then the single-target DPS is actually similar (or even slightly better) to a moebius spammer doing the same. Of course Moebius also happens to hit adjacent targets, and actually do damage when all the above conditions aren't met...

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

@ 360': It pwns his build, I just feel it. Be sure to post attributes, he might learn something from you.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Meh have someone else maintain SoH on you and make an unblockable shattering assault build if you're fed up with moebius. I used that in some PvE areas and it raped, especially kournan bowmen and marghonite clerics hated it. Locust's is pretty bad tho.

Yoshikuni Mahsu

Yoshikuni Mahsu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Please dont copy the title of my thread,
when the purpose's of the two builds are completely different.
It also makes no sense grammatically.

Constructive criticism:
The e-management is horrible. Three 10en spells. Im too lazy to make a suggestion.

Imho locusts is useless for dps.
The phrase dps and locusts fury should not be used in the same sentence,
unless "low" is before dps, sorry.

DDL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu
Constructive criticism:
The e-management is horrible. Three 10en spells. Im too lazy to make a suggestion.

Imho locusts is useless for dps.
The phrase dps and locusts fury should not be used in the same sentence,
unless "low" is before dps, sorry. Technically only two 10e spells really: the other can be precast.

Also, if locusts is "useless for dps", then...what exactly is it good for? Spiking? :P

If you're saying that locusts is only good for building adrenaline, then you're disregarding the fact that there are many other builds that are only marginally less efficient at building adrenaline, but that do much much more damage.

Locusts is basically 'ok' for dps if you combine it with a whole ton of "on hit" effect spells, hexes and whathaveyous, and has the minor advantage of being grotesquely lazy, at the expense of using up a lot of other slots for accessory spells. It's also 'ok' for adrenaline building, as noted, but again: you're sacrificing an awful lot of damage-dealing for a minor advantage in the adrenaline department, and there are other classes that can do the same thing only better.

Moebius blossom sins do constant armour ignoring pressure damage, and they do so very very well. If needed, they can ALSO exploit the adrenaline gain, since they are still attacking stupidly stupidly fast.


Simply put, locusts is boosting your adrenaline gain by about 20-30%, while reducing your unconditional damage output by 40-50%. It's not a good trade-off without addition of the aforementioned "on hit" spells to help.


Locusts isn't...bad, necessarily, it's just..nowhere near as good as moebius.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
I think the last time I used locusts fury was during dualsmite, when I was testing out characters that were capable of pressure-spiking with both locusts and an attack combo. Obviously, not needing to carry the smite skills myself freed up a lot of attribute and skill slots (and with the smites coming from a monk, it gave me a lot more +damage). [skill]Locust's Fury[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill][skill]Falling Spider[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Rawrrrr

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

if only horns wasn't shot in the face repeatedly.
[skill]Locust's Fury[/skill][skill]Siphon Speed[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]black spider strike[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]flurry[/skill] rez

or if rez isn't needed

[skill]Locust's Fury[/skill][skill]Siphon Speed[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]black spider strike[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]

stats
12+1+1 dagger
12+2 crit strikes
3+1 deadly arts

survivor insigs and sup vigor rune

I dont remember what the break point was from crit strikes if it was 14 or not. if not then just use a minor

edit for nerf to siphon speed

[skill]Locust's Fury[/skill][skill]Mirrored Stance[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]black spider strike[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]
stats
12+1+1 dagger
12+2 crit strikes
3+1 shadow arts

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

break is 13 on crit strikes

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

The only good build for Locust's Fury now is when it's not on your bar.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

lol i wanna try those builds out in guildwars now.

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Locust's Fury misses "Fear Me!"