HM farming with VWK,No need for build, skills, runes and ..just do it.

High Moral

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

EDIT!!! Explanation of title:
Its not a real build, its just three things and all points in restoration, hardly called a build.. =)
Skills, I mean,, you can be a retarded monkey to play it.
Runes, I just said that I do have runes, but I have noticed that 3 VwK is enough no matter what runes and stuff I have..


Everyone writes all these uber builds that can be used in 1 spot, and you have to buy this and this and this.. I know everyone knows about the Vwk, but if you dont want to spend money on all the skills, and buy a extra armour set, you dont have to.

Location: Arkjok Ward / Senji´s Corner
Monsters: Tusk Hunters / Vermins

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

All points in restoration, no need for the rest. (See attachment).

(If you want, bring Smoothing memories if you are watching tv, and miss to vwk by a second. But only needed if you are lazy..)

Armour:
I had full Ghost Forge on my armor, so I used that, worked like a charm, Superior Restoration, but you can use minor also. Superior just gives you more breathing room, (like it is needed).

See: Picture two..

(There are 3 groups of Tusk Hunters, Run North for the two other group and there is a zone. Zone out and in and run back..) Very fast.

Conclusion:

No real complicated build needed, No skill needed, No attention needed, No special armour needed, No runes Needed.

Unholy Tank V

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Mo/

wait, so in the title you say and I quote "no need for build, skills, runes" and yet I can point out al of those things n this post

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

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No need for skills,

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

Or do you mean you don't have to have any skill, to use this build?

I'm so confused

High Moral

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

I mean, Skills to use the build... You do need 3 skills obviously.. =)

Timotheos

Timotheos

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Slovenia

Mo/

looks interesting enough ^^. I'll try this on my mesmer, i hope it works with only 12 in restoration

Masao

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10175262

Um, /close.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masao
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10175262

Um, /close.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10263379

Um, /different build.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Tip.... You said there is no need for the rest of the attribute points. If you use a weapon spell, why not put the rest into Spawning? You have longer durations on your weapon spells...

philo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Can you also kill the vermin boss with this "build"? And are you really sure a 12 in Restaration will suffice for that purpose?

Just wondering ...


/edit:
What about raptor nestlings? Have you tried it on them by chance?

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by philo

/edit:
What about raptor nestlings? Have you tried it on them by chance? Need to bring an anti interupt.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Uh, this is just a dumned down version of the original/classic echo VWK build.

Yours is just less efficient, less effective and less interesting.

Funny how this pattern has lingered on for the 2.5+ years i been around. Someone takes a build changes a skill or two, or omits here and there, or simply renames the build and call it "their build".

I think the old fashioned "Search" or "Googling" or "pre-research" has officially fallen off the map. Maybe its just the younger generation is THAT lazy. honestly.

Lol, oh well. Idk why i felt like ranting, sorry. Enjoy yet another of 100's of recycled builds!

cheers.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

This guy is a random scrub. Ignore him.

teotuf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
Uh, this is just a dumned down version of the original/classic echo VWK build.

Yours is just less efficient, less effective and less interesting.

Funny how this pattern has lingered on for the 2.5+ years i been around. Someone takes a build changes a skill or two, or omits here and there, or simply renames the build and call it "their build" he's not calling this his build... nor is he even calling it a build at all

what he is doing is just showing how UNIMPORTANT builds are. there are so many builds that revolve around VWK, and each one is claimed by some random person as "their build" when in fact, they all branch off of the same idea: keep your self alive and hold up vwk.

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

all u did was take the rt/me vermin farmer build.. take away a couple skills.. and put in resilient weapon and then come and call it urs? thats stupid.. this has been around for donkey years. nothing good, special, new or a revelation at that.

btw.. this will never work on hm vermin..

Masao

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

This doesn't work on Vermin in HM.

I tried several runs. First run I used the basic build for Tengu/Skale with Resilient Weapon instead of Elemental Resistance. Cast Physical Resistance and Resilient weapon, then Arcane, then hit VWK once in range.

3 VWK isn't enough to kill them in HM, even when spamming Ancestor's Rage and Vengeful Weapon, since they shadow step away then Death's Charge back in.

I then tried with Mantra of Resolve since I was getting KD's on my Ether Signet casts, but that used more energy than I could spare, and 3 VWK doesn't kill them anyway.

Summary: Doesn't work on Vermin, and there are better builds to use on Tusks.

Qdq: Link to Vermin build?

philo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masao
This doesn't work on Vermin in HM. Didn't expect it to, tbh.
If it were this easy for any profession to farm vermin HM, then I guess celestial weapons would be down to a couple of pennies.

Tusked howlers/hunters are a completely different story. What works well on them, needs not work out at all on vermin.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

What i said earlier was just a general observation. I wasn't harping on the OP or his points. It just got me thinking and so i posted my thoughts... I'm all for people posting ideas, builds, thoughts of their own! Post on!

Quote:
Originally Posted by teotuff
what he is doing is just showing how UNIMPORTANT builds are. there are so many builds that revolve around VWK, and each one is claimed by some random person as "their build" when in fact, they all branch off of the same idea: keep your self alive and hold up vwk.
Uhm, that was exactly my point.

Quote: Originally Posted by Qdq Swi all u did was take the rt/me vermin farmer build.. take away a couple skills.. and put in resilient weapon and then come and call it urs? thats stupid.. this has been around for donkey years. nothing good, special, new or a revelation at that.

btw.. this will never work on hm vermin.. heh, like i said. But i don't think it should go as far as calling his thoughts "stupid" eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
This guy is a random scrub. Ignore him. You insisted on posting just to make that point? yay for trolls? This scrub has a right to his thoughts opinions and thoughts too right? At least i was commenting on the threads subject.

cheers.

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masao
Qdq: Link to Vermin build? The Rt/Me uses Arcane Echo and VwK to get 3 VwKs. Its the same build in the OP with additions like Soothing Memories and whatnot. Its on wiki.. but its not for HM. The fact that a build of 8 skills built on the same basis as the OP's build means that there is no way in the world that it could farm Vermins in HM. As was previously said, even if your lucky enough to get out unscathed.. 3 VwKs cant take down a single Vermin.

Edit : Im pretty sure u can 600/smite them in HM. Im doing it now with thalkora infact... only getting crap though ;s.

Mobs 1 by 1.. just tried to take em all on... too much damage when soa is down for that tiny amount of time.

Masao

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
The Rt/Me uses Arcane Echo and VwK to get 3 VwKs. Its the same build in the OP with additions like Soothing Memories and whatnot. Its on wiki.. but its not for HM. The fact that a build of 8 skills built on the same basis as the OP's build means that there is no way in the world that it could farm Vermins in HM. As was previously said, even if your lucky enough to get out unscathed.. 3 VwKs cant take down a single Vermin.

Edit : Im pretty sure u can 600/smite them in HM. Im doing it now with thalkora infact... only getting crap though ;s.

Mobs 1 by 1.. just tried to take em all on... too much damage when soa is down for that tiny amount of time. Ah ok, I just assume farming builds are for HM nowadays, since NM is just a waste of time to farm.

I've heard you could farm Vermin before in HM or something, but I wasn't around when it was possible.

Oh and as for VwK taking down vermin, I actually managed to kill one...

...ok so I cheated and used Vengeful and Ancestor's. Oh and I managed to cast 5 VwKs with lucky HSR.

High Moral

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

just to defend myself alittle bit,..

I did not call it my build, infact I didnt call it a build at all. My point was to show the more casual players, and maybe not the UBERLEETWTFBBQ cool farmer as some of you claim to be. That, farming is NOT hard, it does nOT require you to buy a shitload of skills and runes.

I would say I tried (but I guess failed) to show people that taking ANY VWK build and calling it theres is just stupid, since obviously its not that hard. . .

but, I guess posting is only for you ELITE people..

bye..

Masao

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Um when did farming ever require you to buy more than 5k-10k worth of runes...

Well, besides way back when 55 monking cost 275k+.

If you think setting up a 330 build costs alot... I honestly don't know what to say.

Farming has never been hard either. My first character was a monk and after one week of starting GW I had a 55 and a Famine farm ranger.

If anything the person who deserves credit for the VwK build is ReZ since he put a shitload of work into it and has farmed pretty much everything possible with it, so stop trying to bag on people who disseminate THEIR, and yes, THEIR builds that they've created rather than Wiki'd.

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Bye,
Don't let the door hit you in the ....

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kratimas
Bye,
Don't let the door hit you in the .... hehee n1 ;p.

Farming never was hard.. nor will it ever be... Its also cheap.. so no1 really needs to proove anything.

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masao
Um when did farming ever require you to buy more than 5k-10k worth of runes...

Well, besides way back when 55 monking cost 275k+.

If you think setting up a 330 build costs alot... I honestly don't know what to say.

Farming has never been hard either. My first character was a monk and after one week of starting GW I had a 55 and a Famine farm ranger.

If anything the person who deserves credit for the VwK build is ReZ since he put a shitload of work into it and has farmed pretty much everything possible with it, so stop trying to bag on people who disseminate THEIR, and yes, THEIR builds that they've created rather than Wiki'd. I remember the days where my 55 cost me about 80k :S I borrowed from someone and gave them back a crappy bow which i said was worth 100k xD