If you tell me to just search next time, I wont. I searched warrior build and just warrior, it came up alot of random crap, so shut it and just hear me out.
This is about warrior secondaries in PvE NOT PvP
I have played every profession, and I keep coming back to the warrior. It is so amazing how cool the armor looks, and how many people hate me in PvP because of my uber pwnage. The thing is, I dont use a secondary professon in pvp, pure warrior here baby. Anyways.
My first thought would be a W/R or W/N. Dont mind my noobness but there are spells that when someone physically attacts you, hey take damage. I dont know if these are traps or enchantments, whatever, its effective in PvP ill tell ya that. But warriors are major short on energy as it is, so I kinda moved on.
Second thought: Monk. Every warrior i have seen today is monk. I believe this is classified as a "TANK" And i can see why. I also believe tanks use shields, who cares, their beasts, high damage, average heal when monk is an absolute noob. anyways.
Just asking for ideas, dont wanna take a crap secondary only to find out I will suck ass in the long run (Pardon my language)
Thanks, and cheers.
Lieutenant Grigs,
PS: I AM A SWORDSMAN / STRENGTH WARRIOR.
Warrior Secondary, Best for Everyone?
RexAxyzun
Luminarus
a) U can change secondary's as many times as u want so in the end it doesnt make THAT big a difference.
b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's:
Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet
Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez,
Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock
Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker
Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds
Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options
Assassin: Teleports, Dash
Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually)
Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good.
b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's:
Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet
Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez,
Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock
Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker
Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds
Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options
Assassin: Teleports, Dash
Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually)
Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good.
RexAxyzun
Can anyone post a good build to go on as a swordsman?
angmar_nite
How do you pwn so much in pvp without a build?
Kyrein
yeah......from your post we can see that you really don't know much about this game
Marty Silverblade
Luminarus
Hmmm heres a couple:
[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword.
For more options try:
www.pvxwiki.com
[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword.
For more options try:
www.pvxwiki.com
RexAxyzun
No, and I dont care, i dont play it everyday like some, but slowly but surely I am learning more and more about guildwars, and im getting better too. Sorry if im not uber pwnage, but I understand builds, and how they work.
Anyways.
I played alot of prophesies but quit, didnt decide to play factons long after release, and now im on nightfall. Im not that great at PvP, i just play random arenas with a warrior full of slashing attacks and I have actually put healing breeze in there for the hell of it. Sorry for giving you the wrong idea.
But im done with PvP, i just need help with PvE
By the way, I didnt mean my warrior didnt have a build, it was a tank / pure swordsman build.
Anyways.
I played alot of prophesies but quit, didnt decide to play factons long after release, and now im on nightfall. Im not that great at PvP, i just play random arenas with a warrior full of slashing attacks and I have actually put healing breeze in there for the hell of it. Sorry for giving you the wrong idea.
But im done with PvP, i just need help with PvE
By the way, I didnt mean my warrior didnt have a build, it was a tank / pure swordsman build.
RexAxyzun
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Thats PVP I need a build for PvE
Nightmares Hammer
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Hmmm heres a couple:
[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword. For more options try: www.pvxwiki.com |
Jaher Dal
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a) U can change secondary's as many times as u want so in the end it doesnt make THAT big a difference.
b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's: Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez, Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options Assassin: Teleports, Dash Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually) Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good. |
I had to quote this, because this is a good start for you sir.
You can always change secondaries, so why don't you try a few different ones out, and see what works for you.
I think it is fun to try new things out and explore, and see what works and what doesn't.
If you are only focused on using Swords, then maybe try Ranger, like what was said, and bring apply poison and whatever else you feel like.
You can also try ele, and use Conjure (whatever mod you add to your sword), and have fun with that.
It is all up to you, and what you like.
Only you can figure out what is or is not fun to use when you play.
Good luck!
RexAxyzun
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Hmmm heres a couple:
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword. For more options try: www.pvxwiki.com |
And is Rush really needed?
Jaher Dal
Well, use what ever works for you. You aren't forced to use the skills that were listed.
Luminarus
Frenzy without rush or other cancel stance = death.
And its not too much adrenaline because u can either a) use d-slash every hit whilst FGJ is up or b) go sever/gash s&m d-slash switch target repeat.
Basically it allows u to constantly unload ur adrenaline skills, or put alot of pressure on someone.
EDIT: Oh BTW the skill tags havent been updated, cripslash also causes bleeding, FGJ now causes 100% Adrenaline gain, and conjure does slightly more damage i think
And its not too much adrenaline because u can either a) use d-slash every hit whilst FGJ is up or b) go sever/gash s&m d-slash switch target repeat.
Basically it allows u to constantly unload ur adrenaline skills, or put alot of pressure on someone.
EDIT: Oh BTW the skill tags havent been updated, cripslash also causes bleeding, FGJ now causes 100% Adrenaline gain, and conjure does slightly more damage i think
Nightmares Hammer
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Frenzy without rush or other cancel stance = death.
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Luminarus
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Frenzy in PvE = Fail.
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Coloneh
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Frenzy in PvE = Fail.
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frenzy id fine if you dont suck/pay attention
Nightmares Hammer
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Not true, Frenzy used like an idiot anywhere = fail, u just need to know when to use it and when not to. If ur tanking the enemies then duh its an idiotic move to use it. If ur not, and ur not taking any damage, go for it and when u start, change to rush. In PVE if ur scared of the double damage, grab flail. However this will start to suck if ur foe kites, especially in HM.
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Marty Silverblade
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Thats PVP I need a build for PvE
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You think it's full of PvP stuff?
Luminarus
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Firstly, leet is annoying, stop using it. Secondly Frenzy MIGHT work, but even then, Flails better...
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Im not saying im leet, hell i havent touched my warrior in about 3 months. However I know from experience that cancel stancing is NOT difficult,
Darkobra
He's saying actually take the split second to type the extra two characters and say "you".
Luminarus
Lol, if its that big a deal I will, but i didnt think anyone really cared, especially considering its on the net where everyone uses shorthands like "u" "lol" etc.
Nightmares Hammer
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Leet how? I never mentioned anything about leet, everything i said is fair enough. Flail can be good in pve if ur not gonna have to move, which is rarer for HM. Either way ur gonna need a cancel stance, however frenzy is basically always ready, and its drawback is the most easily mitigated by cancelling whenever ur suffering damage.
Im not saying im leet, hell i havent touched my warrior in about 3 months. However I know from experience that cancel stancing is NOT difficult, |
Songbringer
You kept saying PvE but like 2 paragraphs you talk about PvP.....
Edit: Leet-Speak is against GWG Terms so obviously some people find it offensive/annoying
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Additionally, when one punctuation works instead of 10 (example: ? instead of ?!?!), use one.
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Edit: Leet-Speak is against GWG Terms so obviously some people find it offensive/annoying
9. Do Not Abuse the English Language
This is a message board, not a chat room. DO NOT use "Leet-Speak", slang or chat lingo our forums. Avoid Colloquial writing. This can best be described as "writing in the way that one would speak." It is an informal, slang style of English that should be reserved primarily for speech, as it can seem unprofessional and sloppy in written text. A casual tone can be interpreted positively in person with face-to-face contact, but can be perceived negatively in writing. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message.
Additionally, when one punctuation works instead of 10 (example: ? instead of ?!?!), use one.
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Luminarus
Except that if your foe moves, it takes you longer to reach them, if they do move you cant stop themem and then IAS again because you probably wont have the adrenaline, and its use slows down the adrenaline gain of your other skills meaning you can use your other attacks less.
Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins.
Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins.
Nightmares Hammer
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Except that if your foe moves, it takes you longer to reach them, if they do move you cant stop themem and then IAS again because you probably wont have the adrenaline, and its use slows down the adrenaline gain of your other skills meaning you can use your other attacks less.
Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins. |
Luminarus
Yes wiki it, notice the part that says:
Hence your skills TAKE LONGER to overall charge up.
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When you use an adrenal skill, that skill's adrenaline pool is emptied, and all other adrenal skills in your bar lose 25 points.
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Nightmares Hammer
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Yes wiki it, notice the part that says:
Hence your skills TAKE LONGER to overall charge up. |
cosyfiep
I know my husband likes to use w/e (for koss) for the stone-whatever build.
I use w/p for some of the shouts. (and I like the sig of return).
of course my husband also is a w/mo and likes to use a hammer build, but he, too, is looking for better builds all the time.
I use w/p for some of the shouts. (and I like the sig of return).
of course my husband also is a w/mo and likes to use a hammer build, but he, too, is looking for better builds all the time.
Luminarus
a) Did you notice 2 builds, only one had FGJ
b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit
Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill.
b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit
Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill.
Nightmares Hammer
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a) Did you notice 2 builds, only one had FGJ
b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill. |
Having to auto attack once in PvE won't kill you... PvE is very very forgiving...
Vote for a close because:
1. The OP's question has already been answered...
2. Its going to end in flaming (everything does).
Alex Morningstar
Here is what I use on my warrior. Your milage may very. Did rather well in the Southern Shiverpeaks tonight.
W/D
Swords: 14 (1+3)
Strength: 9 (+1)
Wind Prayers: 12
[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill].
Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias.
Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off.
Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you.
If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage.
W/D
Swords: 14 (1+3)
Strength: 9 (+1)
Wind Prayers: 12
[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill].
Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias.
Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off.
Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you.
If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage.
Buddhaofwar
Wow, this thread went from one kid asking about pve warrior builds, to people, who started out helping said kid, flaming each other over their word choice, and what they think of each other's skills.
OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve.
Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide.
OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve.
Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide.
Nightmares Hammer
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Wow, this thread went from one kid asking about pve warrior builds, to people, who started out helping said kid, flaming each other over their word choice, and what they think of each other's skills.
OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve. Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide. |
Warrior spear chuckers are bad... It may seem like a good idea but it is'nt... Their almost as funny as mending wammos. (oh and by the way, i'm W/P for Enduring Harmony...)
Keekles
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Frenzy in PvE?? Lol.
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Luminarus
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Again with the leet... Its even worse now that you know its breaking the rules...
Having to auto attack once in PvE won't kill you... PvE is very very forgiving... Vote for a close because: 1. The OP's question has already been answered... 2. Its going to end in flaming (everything does). |
Also, notice i above a bit, proclaimed that flail is as good as frenzy in pve, whilst in pvp frenzy is better? This was to point out, that i could see your point about flail.
It is obviously a matter of preference, do you prefer flail, or frenzy. Up to the player, no point discussing it anymore.
Nanood
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Warrior's in PvE - The how-to guide.
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lol
and this because the msg is too short.. y cant i just have a chuckle when i feel the need to?
Nanood
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Here is what I use on my warrior. Your milage may very. Did rather well in the Southern Shiverpeaks tonight.
W/D Swords: 14 (1+3) Strength: 9 (+1) Wind Prayers: 12 [skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill]. Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias. Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off. Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you. If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage. |
Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?
Zeuki
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Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?
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Darkobra
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Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?
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