Perfect Swords?

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whitedragon
whitedragon
Academy Page
#1
Why is it that most if not all the players think that perfect swords has to be

ap 20/20 +30hp 15^50? I was selling a furious elem. sword of fort.+30hp

15^50(req9)gold furious =10% and every player who looked at it said its not

perfect it has to be ap 20/20 to be perfect. what happened to all maxed stats =perfect
N
Nightmares Hammer
Krytan Explorer
#2
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitedragon
Why is it that most if not all the players think that perfect swords has to be

ap 20/20 +30hp 15^50? I was selling a furious elem. sword of fort.+30hp

15^50(req9)gold furious =10% and every player who looked at it said its not

perfect it has to be ap 20/20 to be perfect. what happened to all maxed stats =perfect
Sundering is'nt good...

Vampiric > Sundering.
garethporlest18
garethporlest18
Forge Runner
#3
Because they don't know any better. Furious>Vampiric>Sundering.
Marty Silverblade
Marty Silverblade
Administrator
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer
Sundering is'nt good...

Vampiric > Sundering.
Sundering is good. It's just crap when you put it on weapons with low damage ranges, like swords. If I get a sundering bonus and a crit hit bonus with an eviscerate, you're pretty much screwed.

EDIT: @ above poster: Furious is meh, practically useless on swords.
maraxusofk
maraxusofk
Desert Nomad
#5
Since most ppl in pvp pack a +10 vs slashing dmg mod on their shields, (icy, ebon) > furious > sundering. many ppl pack vs fire mods against rodgarts, so........
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Because they don't know any better. Furious>Vampiric>Sundering.
Furious is garbage. You don't know any better.
N
Nightmares Hammer
Krytan Explorer
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Furious is garbage. You don't know any better.
QFT

Although, in PvE anything and everything works, so it doesn't really matter. :P

In PvP however, you have to switch weapons depending on your enemies weakness.
Buddhaofwar
Buddhaofwar
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
elemental dmg ftw. really only have to switch out vs rangers. (yes, I am bad at pvp, why do you ask? =P )
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Dark Kal
Krytan Explorer
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Because they don't know any better. Furious>Vampiric>Sundering.
Sundering>Vamperic

Since sundering doesn't give you -1 HP regen. Just saying Vamperic is better because it does more DPS than sundering is stupid.

Sundering>Furious

Since the +10% chance of double adrenaline is hardly noticeable and a warrior has many non-adrenaline skills, so it depends on your build as well.

Sundering>Furious>Vamperic
Longasc
Longasc
Forge Runner
#10
LOL, another sundering/furious/vampiric debate.

Weapon Mods hardly matter. But we can make a big fuss about it all the time, hehe.

I wish GW-PvE would throw much more different mobs with various strengths and weaknesses at us. The Ice Golems e.g. take extra damage from fire, so a fiery weapon works well. Warriors are more vulnerable to elemental weapons, due to their inherent +20 vs physical bonus, while rangers have +30 vs elemental.

Mark of Rodgort needs fire damage to trigger, Mark of Pain physical damage, and Spinal Shivers cold damage... and so on.


I personally hate it when people sell their stuff fully modded to raise the price (which unfortunately works), I prefer the blank weapon to mod it myself to suit my needs. I do not need 10+ identical sundering swords, I have 4 elemental weapons, a vampiric, a sundering, a furious, a zealous and so on with me. I store either axes or swords in the 2nd storage tab and take only those I need for the mission with me, same for shields with +10 vs X mods.

Furious lost some appeal now that FGJ and FA and many other skills provide double adrenaline/adrenaline boosts. Furious was hugely popular among Paragons for a while, but if you run around with FGJ+FA, you need everything else, but for sure not a Furious spearhead.


But who uses swords for Dragonslash and SY anyways - real men use zealous axes and give a damn about defense.
N1ghtstalker
N1ghtstalker
Forge Runner
#11
depends on what you play
if the players don't like it that your sword is with a furious mod so what
they can just buy the sword and put the sundering on themselves
what's the big deal anyway?
a perfect weapon is a q9 max damage weapon with perfect mods/inscriptions on it
masta_yoda
masta_yoda
Banned
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
depends on what you play
if the players don't like it that your sword is with a furious mod so what
they can just buy the sword and put the sundering on themselves
what's the big deal anyway?
a perfect weapon is a q9 max damage weapon with perfect mods/inscriptions on it
no... perfect can b any req just perfect inherent dmg modifier and for shields its maxed on both mods and mx dmg/armor
N1ghtstalker
N1ghtstalker
Forge Runner
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by masta_yoda
no... perfect can b any req just perfect inherent dmg modifier and for shields its maxed on both mods and mx dmg/armor
that's true
the q9 is just something for luxury
you're absolutely right
if it's max damage with perfect mods the weapon is perfect
you'll still do an equal amount of damage with a Q9 Ele sword 15^50 20/20 +30hp and a Q13 ele sword 15^50 20/20 +30 when you have like 16 in Swordsmanship
Lord Sojar
Lord Sojar
The Fallen One
#14
Vampiric = Furious

It depends on situation. Use furious for building on a 60AL or 70AL (dervish or ranger), use vampiric on spike. Use sundering, ummm.... never?

Use elemental (mainly ebon) on warriors and Paragons (well paras dont matter really) Since warriors have 100AL vs physical, you use an elemental weapon against them. However, since rangers have 100AL vs elemental dmg, you use furious to build, and then spike them with vamp.

This argument is SOOO old.


Sundering... sucks. The ONLY character that it is remotely useful to use against is a monster in HM in PvE, because 20% of 200AL is -40AL. That is a decent chunk.
Pleikki
Pleikki
WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!
#15
Yeah i allways tell that even 15^ench 1/-1 and +7arm vs psys Is perfect..
makosi
makosi
Grotto Attendant
#16
I'm a big fan of zealous mods on swords. It makes it easy to use Frenzy as much as I want.
Pesi
Pesi
Jungle Guide
#17
thats correct, all maxed mods are perfect, people still dont know that 20/20 is only worth having on hammers, bows, schytes etc. Not on swords and axes cos it makes such a small diffrence so more worth more adrenal, or vamp.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
Right, because one doubling of adrenaline every 13 seconds makes a huge difference *rolles eyes*.
It does. Fury hilts are awesome.

To answer the OP: The term "perfect" used in Guild Wars does not, in the slightest, mean that it's actually "perfect." It just means that it has the most popular stats, but funnily enough those stats aren't usually the most effective.
MagmaRed
MagmaRed
Furnace Stoker
#19
Sundering, 15^50, and +30 is 'perfect', and the best option because of this:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Warrior...uick_reference

Look over the list, you will find 5 Axes, 8 Hammers, and 5 Swords with those stats. Everyone knows Green weapons are the best. Now, look at the ones that have 20/20 and +30, but modify the 15^50. Quite a few with 15/-5, 15^enchant, 15^stance, etc. Sundering + Fortitude is special.

Mr_Unlucky
Mr_Unlucky
Academy Page
#20
Me like zealous and furious, me no like vamp cause the degen is annoyining to which and +3 per sving is poor dmg. sundering is the no brainer from them all. thats the mod you dont have to think. it just is there for the imagined extra dmg.
it goes like this:
zealous=intelligent mans choice
sundering=stupid mans choice