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mr_groovy

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Quote From the Official GW wiki: Upcoming changes & features.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wiki.guildwars.com
  • Guild Wars 2 beta (2nd half of 2008).
  • Guild Wars 2 (2009/2010 est).
Until further Official news or leaked screens, we can only speculate about GW2. This goes for Beta & release.

This should be Sticky imo

JeniM

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can i see sum screens of gw2 plz?

i second the sticky'ing of this if it'll help stop the 4-5 GW2 threads we get daily

Darkobra

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I vote this to be sticky.

Meat Axe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
can i see sum screens of gw2 plz?

i second the sticky'ing of this if it'll help stop the 4-5 GW2 threads we get daily
I actually think the 4-5 GW2 threads we get daily help to balance out the forums, and add a nice breather between the hundreds of "omfg u r 2 stoopid anet" threads that get posted every twenty minutes or so.

mr_groovy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
I actually think the 4-5 GW2 threads we get daily help to balance out the forums, and add a nice breather between the hundreds of "omfg u r 2 stoopid anet" threads that get posted every twenty minutes or so.
So posting "Gw2 beta isn't out till late 2008 nub, in before close, post +1, insert random lolcat picture + search word fail" is a meaning full conversation?

Terra Xin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
I vote this to be sticky.
I vote that all speculative threads be wiped and redirected to this page...

Dang... this aint wiki

I vote stiky then!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
I vote this to be sticky.
Same here.

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Zahr Dalsk

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Sticky it please.

tmr819

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Quote From the Official GW wiki: Upcoming changes & features.


Until further Official news or leaked screens, there is no point on speculating about GW2. It will be done when it's done. This goes for Beta & release.

This should be Sticky imo
If we disallow threads that have no point, we might as well close down guru.

Personally, I have no problems with people speculating about GW2. I am tired of the subject, yes, but others may not be. People should be able to discuss what they want to discuss.

So, sticky this thread? You've got to be kidding. If you don't like a topic, just stay out of it.

Flem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmr819
So, sticky this thread? You've got to be kidding. If you don't like a topic, just stay out of it.


Winnar x2

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arcanemacabre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmr819
If we disallow threads that have no point, we might as well close down guru.

Personally, I have no problems with people speculating about GW2. I am tired of the subject, yes, but others may not be. People should be able to discuss what they want to discuss.

So, sticky this thread? You've got to be kidding. If you don't like a topic, just stay out of it.
QFT. Remember people: speculation is discussion, too.


There should simply be a GW2 forum. Would solve all those problems straight away.

Talarian

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Here's an idea - start a new forum dedicated to GW2 speculation. That way we won't be bombarded by the constant wonderings of madmen.

EDIT: ^^ beaten to it

truemyths

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I have a hard time believing that GW2 will wait until 2010 to come out. aNet has to make money somehow. And if they don't add content to GW-original then they'll lose the player base to boot, making GW2 success that much harder.

So I would predict a late 2008 release date.

/notsigned on the sticky

hallomik

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To the degree views expressed on these forums find their way to the developers, there is probably no more important topic than speculation on GW2.

Why in the world would we want to wait until the game is fully designed before we express our views on how the design ought to take shape? The earlier in the design process a concern is raised, the easier it is to build into the finished product.

I appreciate the link provided. It is a good summary of what little has been communicated, but the idea we should stop ourselves from discussing GW2 because it is "speculation" pretty completely misunderstands the value of a forum like this.

Avarre

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You can post what you want, but keep in mind I can mod what I want.

Speculation is useless. Speculation and suggestions out of nowhere suggest you can do the developers' jobs better than they can, and understand the game better than they do. For the most part, people here are not that capable.

Let them get on with their work, and when they have something to show you, critique that and help them improve it. Random guessing fills up threads with nothing more valuable than OT forum content.

Siirius Black

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
You can post what you want, but keep in mind I can mod what I want.

Speculation is useless. Speculation and suggestions out of nowhere suggest you can do the developers' jobs better than they can, and understand the game better than they do. For the most part, people here are not that capable.

Let them get on with their work, and when they have something to show you, critique that and help them improve it. Random guessing fills up threads with nothing more valuable than OT forum content.
Nice Comment
Just wait for the beta this year and then you will have something to write about.

MSecorsky

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I like the idea of a GW2 forum where GW2 posts can be moved into to die a slow, painful death until relevant.

mr_groovy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
I like the idea of a GW2 forum where GW2 posts can be moved into to die a slow, painful death until relevant.
hear hear ..........

RiKio

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Aww...

Is this a thread that informs about GW2, or a thread where we can flame and farm +1s?

tommarrow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
AMAGAD!!1
The way that that "2" looks in the "Guild Wars 2" because you can find the letters "U" "I" "L" "A" "R" and "S" in BOTH the "RItUALISt" and "gUILd wARS" I think that one of the classes in GW2 will indeed be the ritualist!1!1!!!!


/faints
You can also take those same letters and spell U LIARS.

upier

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommarrow
You can also take those same letters and spell U LIARS.
AMAGAD!!!
Let the conspiracy theories begin!

(And I have to say - probably the worse case of self-ownage ever! And that coming from me says a lot ... )


Plus I am quite shocked it became a sticky.
Because I wanted to check if anything new was posted in the tread and I couldn't find it!
I already accepted the idea that the thread was deleted - and then I found it crawling around at the top of all the threads!
Way to go to kill a thread ...

Inde

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Everyone, this should not read "GuildWarsGuru does not allow GW2 threads to be posted". I certainly don't see that statement anywhere so I'm not sure why some people have gone off on the tangent that we somehow are going to delete on sight these threads. This thread is merely a point that GW2 is still quite a bit away, and actually does answer one of the top questions of "when will GW2 be out/beta"? Perhaps if more people can see how far away this game is to being released they can realize that there just isn't much information to give right now. So any threads asking questions really can't be given an answer.

Operative 14

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Most of the threads I've seen about GW2 are not useless speculation, but discussions of what people would like to have in the game based on GW or the very limited amount of information released about GW2. How will the game developers know how we, the fanbase and a good portion of the GW2 buyers, will accept an idea? And as a developer wouldn't you prefer to have that information without asking, and before you spent 4 months coding up and developing a very unpopular feature?

We need a GW2 forum here on Guru, that's the only way to unclog Riverside from 'pointless' GW2 speculation threads. We are here becuase we are all Guild Wars fans. Saying we cant discuss GW2 is like saying we can't discuss Warriors or skill balances.

tmr819

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Everyone, this should not read "GuildWarsGuru does not allow GW2 threads to be posted". I certainly don't see that statement anywhere so I'm not sure why some people have gone off on the tangent that we somehow are going to delete on sight these threads. This thread is merely a point that GW2 is still quite a bit away, and actually does answer one of the top questions of "when will GW2 be out/beta"? Perhaps if more people can see how far away this game is to being released they can realize that there just isn't much information to give right now. So any threads asking questions really can't be given an answer.
Ummm, the OP on this thread states:

Quote:
Until further Official news or leaked screens, there is no point on speculating about GW2. It will be done when it's done. This goes for Beta & release.
That sounds a lot like "Don't start threads about GW2" to me.

"Stickying" this thread is thus a bit like announcing in a forum dedicated to U.S. politics that there is no point in speculating about the outcome of the upcoming presidential elections. In my opinion that kind of defeats part of the purpose of a forum, which is to discuss what is and -- yes -- speculate about what's coming next. Of course there is a point in speculating about the future: such discussions can be interesting, which explains in part why there have been so many of them.

If you want to sticky anything, I suggest dumping the original thread and creating a new sticky thread stating where what little official information there is about GW2 can be found (i.e., at Wiki), possibly adding a few links to existing GW2 speculation/discussion threads that have proved popular. You might also advise people to search through existing threads about GW2 before starting any new ones.

But whatever. That is just the sense I get from the OP. Stickying this makes it sound like the somewhat peevish position of the OP is the official position of Guru as well.

Inde

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We all like assumptions. Stating something is speculation certainly doesn't go into the realm of "don't post". Sorry. And since I have clarified our position I don't think it warrants arguing about it. I read the thread obviously different from you, as did the moderator who stickied it. Stating that speculations are all any GW2 threads can be about doesn't mean there can be no discussion, as you pointed out. As everyone can see, from the amount of GW2 threads we have, I think that further reinforces that we do indeed allow and encourage discussion. Just that all it can be is speculation since there is so little information.


Just to help though, I did an edit of the OP's original statement and changed it to "Until further Official news or leaked screens, we can only speculate about GW2. This goes for Beta & release."

tmr819

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I think that is actually a substantial improvement. Thanks.

Rexion

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As the leader of the SOGWTT, I applaud you, mr_groovy, for making this thread and having it be stickied.
yay :DD

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Maybe it will stop those GW2 threads from popping up every hours xD.

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You can also take those same letters and spell U LIARS.
Lol priceless xD

natuxatu

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I hope more information is leaked soon to spark my interested back into guild wars. Loved it but played it to death... so I went over and started playing WoW and now I'm getting addicted to it so I new some guild wars news please a screen shot would be awesome.

Granted I haven't clicked the link YET but I don't think there has been any screen shots as it's not at the stage yet correct?

Yang Whirlwind

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmr819
"Stickying" this thread is thus a bit like announcing in a forum dedicated to U.S. politics that there is no point in speculating about the outcome of the upcoming presidential elections. In my opinion that kind of defeats part of the purpose of a forum, which is to discuss what is and -- yes -- speculate about what's coming next. Of course there is a point in speculating about the future: such discussions can be interesting, which explains in part why there have been so many of them.

If you want to sticky anything, I suggest dumping the original thread and creating a new sticky thread stating where what little official information there is about GW2 can be found (i.e., at Wiki), possibly adding a few links to existing GW2 speculation/discussion threads that have proved popular. You might also advise people to search through existing threads about GW2 before starting any new ones.
Personally I wouldn't mind people speculating their heads off about GWII - as long as they don't do it where I have to trip in their useless threads.
As long as there's nothing solid to add to the discussion it all seems like a lot of +1's from people with too much time on their hands.

This sticky rules! And people should post their "do you think GWII will have this" or "what if GWII has that" threads in their heads.

When we start getting some material on the subject I for one will be in here reading every word twice, but until then hold your horses people.

thedrumchannell

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Remember that 2009/2010 is just a guess and not an official statement made by the developers.

cosyfiep

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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maybe this should be sticking in the Q&A since there seems to be a new gw2 thread there just about everyday!

Talarian

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EDIT 2: GG mods, my eyes and sense of proper English usage thank you

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thedrumchannell
Remember that 2009/2010 is just a guess and not an official statement made by the developers.
I'd say that it is a guess and probably a safety measure.

People would like them more if they planned for it later and released it earlier, rather than them having an early release date and not being able to make it on time/having a bad game from time cramps. People would probably be mad. This way they can always move it forward if they want.

Just what I think heh

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I'd like to know what guru's plans are for the forum concerning GW2, will we get a brand new forum?

Siirius Black

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probably www.guildwarsguru2.com



they will probably start a new forum with guildwars 2 on it.

dread slayer

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A guild??? What is that?

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Instead of just clogging sardelac.......

Just make a stinking gw2 guru and make ur dam. predictions abt it.....

And as for the continuing threads..... leave them be till they finish off

/sign

Little Sparrow

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Does anyone know if they are allowing beta testers soon.. and how you get on the beta testing list??

Siirius Black

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Quote:
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Does anyone know if they are allowing beta testers soon.. and how you get on the beta testing list??
You mean you did not received your invitation already????




/sarcasm off

Actually once they announce the beta they will tell you how to get the invitation/key

mr_groovy

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This was unsticky why?