Are Assassins Viable anymore?
Regulus X
Are Assassins viable anymore? It seems Izzy (anet's skills-editor) no longer has any love for them due to the history of demeaning updates targeted at the most versatile of professions. State Yes or No to the question followed by a brief "Why" as to what you think regarding the topic. Please avoid flaming/trolling and be sincere.
BlackSephir
Assa's viability was dead long time ago. Now it's erm, deader?
Taurucis
Nope.
Create another viable build for them and it'll get nerfed. The past 4 updates have been mostly nerfs for them, they haven't been buffed since... last year or so.
Create another viable build for them and it'll get nerfed. The past 4 updates have been mostly nerfs for them, they haven't been buffed since... last year or so.
jc2pb4jc2tk2
I kinda think the skill editor guy play HB too
and he got pwned every freaking single time so he thinks sin should go to the garbage can
look at Shadow Prison
from 5 energy CD 15
now 10 energy CD 25 and that poor duration
SIN is dead now, good job ANET!
and he got pwned every freaking single time so he thinks sin should go to the garbage can
look at Shadow Prison
from 5 energy CD 15
now 10 energy CD 25 and that poor duration
SIN is dead now, good job ANET!
Shuuda
Lets hope they are not viable anymore.
"For Great Balance!"
"For Great Balance!"
Regulus X
I concur with most posts thus far, except that assassins did have some viability left with siphon speed. Shroud of Silence was borderline nonviable simply because of the ease in removal from another team member. Spells like remove hex, holy veil, and many others can reduce SoS to nothing... but now tacking on a hideous duration to it made me go o_O!
I also sense a bit of personal emotions being tied into the decision-making, thus showing that general player's interest is not what's in Izzy's mind, but rather how he can make the game better tailored to suit his own preference. Skill updates have been so flawed (especially last years) and I have a gut feeling that it's only going to get continually worse.
I also sense a bit of personal emotions being tied into the decision-making, thus showing that general player's interest is not what's in Izzy's mind, but rather how he can make the game better tailored to suit his own preference. Skill updates have been so flawed (especially last years) and I have a gut feeling that it's only going to get continually worse.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Regulus X
I also sense a bit of personal emotions being tied into the decision-making, thus showing that general player's interest is not what's in Izzy's mind, but rather how he can make the game better tailored to suit his own preference. Skill updates have been so flawed (especially last years) and I have a gut feeling that it's only going to get continually worse. Not really, since every single good PvPer had realised a long long long time ago that Assassins were one of the main things that were ruining this game. So, it's more the feelings of the entire PvP community.
Regulus X
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
Not really, since every single good PvPer had realised a long long long time ago that Assassins were one of the main things that were ruining this game. So, it's more the feelings of the entire PvP community.
I respect your view, but it is unclear to me "what" exactly it is you claim assassins have that ruins the game. Is it their quick-killing, debilitating nature? Is it your personal experience while fighting against them and repeated failures in PvP competitions? Please elaborate a bit on your statement.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by jc2pb4jc2tk2
look at Shadow Prison
from 5 energy CD 15
now 10 energy CD 25 and that poor duration
Actually this made me go lulz, cause it doesn't fix SP yet again.
All SP needs it 2-3s duration to do it's worst.
But it may take them some time to get it.
And for the record- just as there are assassin retards that scream "omg bring sp and dp back!" there are also retards that scream red engine gored engine (or smth) when they see or hear something beginning with "ass".
They'll never get laid.
Stormlord Alex
As long as Assassins can still skip through chains to get multiple Dual Attacks in, people will still use them to insta-gib.
Better luck next time?
Better luck next time?
Miska Bow
On Shroud of Silence they forgot to remove the golden trimming around the skill's avatar.
Minime The Shadow
to be honest they are still viable, a lot of sin builds especially in ab dont use the skills nerfed.
There are still plenty of other builds out there to use. Just try another.
My Sin is completely unnafected this time, but i suppose they will probably get me next time.
Also sins were a bit too versatile, i know for example that they can be made to shut down and kill anything in the game in seconds, with 1 or 2 skill changes.
Noticed this when scrimming one of my guildies, who has had just sin since factions came out. No Build that you choose cannot be undone by the correct sin build. They have everything.
So before complaining about recent nerfs, think the majority of the community who dont play sins, will be happy, which might just be more than 50% of the GW community.
There are still plenty of other builds out there to use. Just try another.
My Sin is completely unnafected this time, but i suppose they will probably get me next time.
Also sins were a bit too versatile, i know for example that they can be made to shut down and kill anything in the game in seconds, with 1 or 2 skill changes.
Noticed this when scrimming one of my guildies, who has had just sin since factions came out. No Build that you choose cannot be undone by the correct sin build. They have everything.
So before complaining about recent nerfs, think the majority of the community who dont play sins, will be happy, which might just be more than 50% of the GW community.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Minime The Shadow
to be honest they are still viable, a lot of sin builds especially in ab dont use the skills nerfed.
Did you just made an 'obvervation' based on what you see in ab?
Sir Pandra Pierva
i got a build that sins can't be in scrimming
mes/mo
pacifism, inteptidude, clumsiness, the big energy return skill, conjure nightmere, then a couple of general interupts. never been beaten yet
mes/mo
pacifism, inteptidude, clumsiness, the big energy return skill, conjure nightmere, then a couple of general interupts. never been beaten yet
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Regulus X
Both the Prison nerfs are irrelevant since one should follow up with Black Mantis Thrust or Iron Palm anyway. I won't grieve Shroud at all, and I'm very happy about Augury (and thus Assacasters) getting hit.