Frenzy vs Aggressive Refrain

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Add a 15 minute forum browsing time to that 20 second recharge, and it becomes a lot harder to maintain . Oh god that is so true. So many times I alt-tabbed to browse through guru only to return to see all the mending and aggressive refrains have dropped off Hayda and Morghan or I've been gang-banged by a group of raptors and angorodons

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by odly
The only reasonable alternative for AR is (imo) Drinking + Drunken Master + disabling post processing effects. I agree with this completely. Since getting Drunken Master and a Deldrimor rank of about 5-6, I haven't touched AR in PvE. A 5e, 1 1/2 minute long, 33% IMS+IAS is just too badass to pass up.

However, between AR and Frenzy... Definitely AR. Definitely.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Oh, and I never actually posted which one I prefer.

Aggressive Refrain. So easy to maintain, so less risky.

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

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When I first started my paragon I was turned off by aggressive refrain constantly applying cracked armor. So I didn't wanna use it. I posted here about my build and everyone kept telling me to use it so I gave it a try and haven't looked back. I'd definitely use it over frenzy.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

If your finding problems in the fact that you are moving too fast between mobs to chant, then you honestly have nothing to worry about -anyway-. The ability to take on tougher mobs should always be in higher regards then the convenience of killing weaker ones.

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

Always take fighter henchman with "Charge!". This + TNTF = nice "upkeep synergy". Charge's 20s, and so is TNTF.
And yes, AR is the best IAS option para can use.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Anthem of Flame is perfect for keeping it up.

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

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Yes it is, but some people find necessity to stop per 10s for 1s annoying so yeah, shouts are better for those

Asha Rai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Gone

R/W

Having tried out both, I prefer aggressive refrain now =P Frenzy has caused me to implode a few times, and with [skill]They're on Fire![/skill] keeping AR up is a no brainer. Only thing that gets me is e-edenial. Quicksand = paaaain.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassu
Yes it is, but some people find necessity to stop per 10s for 1s annoying so yeah, shouts are better for those Eh, TNtF works for that but requires a very precise and quick activation whenever it recharges. I generally do whatever one I happen to hit, or just let it fall and then activate again when approaching the next mob.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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I always find it hard to remember to hit "There's nothing to fear" when it recharge. One way which i try to overcome it is to use a sup leadership headgear to cast AR and with the 4 more secs buffer, it helps alot.

Problem now is remembering to switch back to my actual headgear. (just joking)

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
I always find it hard to remember to hit "There's nothing to fear" when it recharge. One way which i try to overcome it is to use a sup leadership headgear to cast AR and with the 4 more secs buffer, it helps alot.

Problem now is remembering to switch back to my actual headgear. (just joking) Does that prolongue the duration for all recurring AR's as long as you keep it up as well ?

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by odly
Does that prolongue the duration for all recurring AR's as long as you keep it up as well ? yup, it does

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

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Just finished up L. Guardian last night. Frenzy all the way, baby!