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NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

11 Mar 2008 at 12:49 - 1

Note: I Would Like To Apologize If This Was Already Brought Up

So I was Looking at the Guild Wars 2 Logo... And noticed That The Map looks a little bit different then our current Maps. So I highlighted the areas on the GW2 Logo To Show What Has Changed.

Red Area : No More Snow
Green Area : Ascalon Once Again Green
Yellow Area : Arid & Dry Areas Are Now Green
Blue Area : City ? Snow? Cloud?

What Do You Think?

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

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11 Mar 2008 at 13:02 - 2

zomg no more global warming

xPIMPx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Uk

Hmmm Defrosted Cat [Poo]

W/A

11 Mar 2008 at 13:05 - 3

I think things change after 250 years

Ele Mental

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Underworld, being farmed for ecto by r3s

In Soviet Russia Servers Hate [You]

W/E

11 Mar 2008 at 13:07 - 4

whats the point in specualting about gw2 its just going to ruin the game when it comes out if you know everything that is going to happen

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

11 Mar 2008 at 13:08 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by xPIMPx

I think things change after 250 years

Well Yeah Haha

But Not That Dramatically. Snowy Mountains Don’t Just Melt. Rocky Dead Lands Don’t Just Grow Green… Specially when there are Swamps Of Black Gunk. And Deserts Really Don’t Grow Grass… Haha… Get My Point?

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

11 Mar 2008 at 13:09 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ele Mental

whats the point in specualting about gw2 its just going to ruin the game when it comes out if you know everything that is going to happen

Speculating passes time. And technically we are not spoiling anything… cuzz quite frankly we don’t know anything. So it’s all pure curiosity using the imagination.

duckboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Duckboy

E/Me

11 Mar 2008 at 13:16 - 7

imagination u say?

i want timetravel in GW!!!!! see tyria in say 100 years past GW1, maybe 250 years, then 500 years, and then maybe u have to change history cos the worlds dieing in the 500 year future thus u go back 100 years before GW1

srry, i like weird time jumping games

aaanyways, when GW2 opens its arms to the puplic for testing, i'll be sure to check that out

Bohya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Vabbi

Farming Crewuk [fcuk]

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11 Mar 2008 at 13:16 - 8

Tis thy dragons!

Btw I think you missed a spot. Look at the outstretch of land to the west of the Southern Shiverpeaks. Oh and LA is flooded ever since Orr rose.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

11 Mar 2008 at 20:20 - 9

This is OOOOLLLLLLDDDD NNNNNEEEEEWWWWWSSS.

From before "The Movement of the World" came out. I'd suggest you read that.

The Shiverpeaks melting is questionable, perhaps that's an oversight.

As for Orr, remember, it rose from the sea - that blown up stuff we see in GW1 may not be ALL of Orr. That big landmass that nearly goes south of what used to be the D'Alessio Arena (arena south of LA before Battle Isles) may be all that went underwater.

Bohya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Vabbi

Farming Crewuk [fcuk]

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11 Mar 2008 at 21:21 - 10

Risen from the ocean by the will of a powerful undead dragon, Orr no longer stands under human control. The beings roaming those lands are twisted, perverts. Drowned by magic and then raised into service by the will of a monster so terrible there are only whispers of its nature, they now serve a dragon more horrible and more powerful than any other being in Tyria.

The elder dragon of Orr rules this re-emerged continent with an indomitable will, claiming the peninsula for its own. The city of Arah, where once the True Gods walked, rose to the surface to become the creature's home. Its arrival heralded a time of cataclysm and change for the world. Though Arah lies in ruins, conquered by the dragon and its minions, those who venture onto Orrian soil say they have seen her spired towers, bedecked with rotted banners and guarded by twisted, draconian troops.

When the dragon awoke and the peninsula breached the waves, once-ruined buildings and shattered coastal highways rose above the sea as well. In addition to drowning the coastlands of Kryta and flooding Lion's Arch, this cataclysmic event even turned parts of northern Elona green again—for a time. The changes were truly cataclysmic across all of Tyria. Only the greatest of heroes dare venture within the ruined cities of Orr; to adventure there is to face the dragon and its minions directly, and that creature's power is not to be underestimated.

Many of the corsairs who inhabited the island chain before the peninsula rose again were subsumed by the dragon's power, twisted by its breath, and enslaved to its will. Ships with black sails, built from seized corsair vessels, sail along the Strait of Malchor, west of Orr. These vessels surround the Fire Islands, manned by undead minions of the dragon that fear neither fire nor sea.

This undead armada has cut off all human contact with Cantha, and the dragon’s undead army wages war even now along the northern Elonian border, preventing all in Tyria from departing for other lands...for now.

Yuhe Ji

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Los Angeles

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11 Mar 2008 at 23:47 - 11

Didn't it say something about Palawa Joko diverting the river and making the Crystal Desert green again?

Bohya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Vabbi

Farming Crewuk [fcuk]

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11 Mar 2008 at 23:49 - 12

Yes palawa f*cked up the river. He owns the southern half of the Crystal Desert and the Dragons own the northern part.

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

12 Mar 2008 at 20:40 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

This is OOOOLLLLLLDDDD NNNNNEEEEEWWWWWSSS.

From before "The Movement of the World" came out. I'd suggest you read that.

The Shiverpeaks melting is questionable, perhaps that's an oversight.

As for Orr, remember, it rose from the sea - that blown up stuff we see in GW1 may not be ALL of Orr. That big landmass that nearly goes south of what used to be the D'Alessio Arena (arena south of LA before Battle Isles) may be all that went underwater.

I was probably one of the first ones to read the article… lol but thanks for your input. And Sorry about it being “old news” I just don’t remember ever seeing anyone bringing it up on here.

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

12 Mar 2008 at 20:43 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohya

Risen from the ocean by the will of a powerful undead dragon, Orr no longer stands under human control. The beings roaming those lands are twisted, perverts. Drowned by magic and then raised into service by the will of a monster so terrible there are only whispers of its nature, they now serve a dragon more horrible and more powerful than any other being in Tyria.

The elder dragon of Orr rules this re-emerged continent with an indomitable will, claiming the peninsula for its own. The city of Arah, where once the True Gods walked, rose to the surface to become the creature's home. Its arrival heralded a time of cataclysm and change for the world. Though Arah lies in ruins, conquered by the dragon and its minions, those who venture onto Orrian soil say they have seen her spired towers, bedecked with rotted banners and guarded by twisted, draconian troops.

When the dragon awoke and the peninsula breached the waves, once-ruined buildings and shattered coastal highways rose above the sea as well. In addition to drowning the coastlands of Kryta and flooding Lion's Arch, this cataclysmic event even turned parts of northern Elona green again—for a time. The changes were truly cataclysmic across all of Tyria. Only the greatest of heroes dare venture within the ruined cities of Orr; to adventure there is to face the dragon and its minions directly, and that creature's power is not to be underestimated.

Many of the corsairs who inhabited the island chain before the peninsula rose again were subsumed by the dragon's power, twisted by its breath, and enslaved to its will. Ships with black sails, built from seized corsair vessels, sail along the Strait of Malchor, west of Orr. These vessels surround the Fire Islands, manned by undead minions of the dragon that fear neither fire nor sea.

This undead armada has cut off all human contact with Cantha, and the dragon’s undead army wages war even now along the northern Elonian border, preventing all in Tyria from departing for other lands...for now.

Thank You For Putting This Up

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

12 Mar 2008 at 21:13 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohya

The elder dragon of Orr rules this re-emerged continent with an indomitable will, claiming the peninsula for its own.

Now who ever read the article already knows this. But according to the following image... Not much of Orr was really under water?

Img Source : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Orr

In the picture I have indicated in red that it's the two same locations. If you look closely at the two images... there is still water In-between the bits of land. Now if Orr did rise (In the first image GW2)... wouldn't there be Land instead of Water?

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

12 Mar 2008 at 21:46 - 16

I dunno. Also, I miss the pre-GW:EN Tyria map - unexplored areas looked less cartoony, and the Orr in it looked more detailed than what we have now.

The peninsula (at least in the pre-GW:EN Tyria map) was all charred, I assumed most of Orr sank and some was just blown up, I dunno what's up with GW2. But no doubt Orr has SOME islands around it, like Kryta does.

Bohya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Vabbi

Farming Crewuk [fcuk]

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12 Mar 2008 at 22:33 - 17

Arrggh! Why doesn't this game come out sooner?! It's drivin' my head in! Can't Anet just tell us something or give us a screeny something?!

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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12 Mar 2008 at 23:49 - 18

...nope. As much as I wish they did.

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

13 Mar 2008 at 04:03 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

I dunno. Also, I miss the pre-GW:EN Tyria map - unexplored areas looked less cartoony, and the Orr in it looked more detailed than what we have now.

The peninsula (at least in the pre-GW:EN Tyria map) was all charred, I assumed most of Orr sank and some was just blown up, I dunno what's up with GW2. But no doubt Orr has SOME islands around it, like Kryta does.

I think a lot of the textures in the new map are a lot better... But yes... A few unexplored areas look a bit cartoon-ish.

Map 1.0 - Before GW:EN Update

Map 2.0 - After GW:EN Update

You can also see what ANET was trying to do with the look of the peninsula. Before the update, the peninsula looked like it was “Sand Textured” like the Crystal Desert… But we all know that based on the Tarnished coast that if the peninsula were to dry up it would be a “Mud Texture” (Version 2.0) like the Tarnished Coast and Maguma Jungle.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

14 Mar 2008 at 21:57 - 20

The new map is more cartoony in unexplored areas, making the map almost TOO revealing to people who haven't explored much. Where's the thrill in that?

I'd say the trend began with Nightfall, if you look at the mountains in Elona's map they're fairly cartoony.

Pre-GW:EN Tyria and Cantha are realistic.

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

14 Mar 2008 at 22:41 - 21

Yeah this was noticed and talked about awhile before the arrival of the "The Movement of Time" article. Of course the reason it was noticed is due to the Northen Shiverpeaks no longer being close to Kryta.

Since this is probably not the final map of Tyria in GW2 we cant just say "Orr didnt really resurface" and "cities are appearing in the Magumma". We need the final map for that

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

14 Mar 2008 at 23:18 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Yeah this was noticed and talked about awhile before the arrival of the "The Movement of Time" article. Of course the reason it was noticed is due to the Northen Shiverpeaks no longer being close to Kryta.

Since this is probably not the final map of Tyria in GW2 we cant just say "Orr didnt really resurface" and "cities are appearing in the Magumma". We need the final map for that

Thats Pretty Much What It Comes Down Too

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

15 Mar 2008 at 00:04 - 23

I'm hoping that's the case, and hoping that's not the GW2 logo. That font is HIDEOUS! Looks like something for some free South Korean *cough*Silkroad* karate MMORPG thingy.

The GW1 font was epic, they should make the logo sort like Factions and Nightfall - a variation on the standard "Guild Wars" logo.

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

15 Mar 2008 at 07:35 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

I'm hoping that's the case, and hoping that's not the GW2 logo. That font is HIDEOUS! Looks like something for some free South Korean *cough*Silkroad* karate MMORPG thingy.

The GW1 font was epic, they should make the logo sort like Factions and Nightfall - a variation on the standard "Guild Wars" logo.

Critical Much? Haha

Sunyavadin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

N/

19 Mar 2008 at 06:00 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckboy

i want timetravel in GW!!!!!

WTB GW: Utopia.

Chronomancers FTW

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

19 Mar 2008 at 19:25 - 26

Utopia had some sexy concept art - lots of Aztec and Maya places with roofs and plazas, very sexy, colosseums, etc. Nice and cozy.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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19 Mar 2008 at 20:46 - 27

Yes, Utopia looked like it would be very nice. To bad they scrapped that idea

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

19 Mar 2008 at 21:26 - 28

I would rather have Utopia, then wait for half a year for the beta of Gw2.

Zamorakk

Frost Gate Guardian

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Team of the North

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29 Mar 2008 at 08:35 - 29

No more shiverpeeks?

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

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Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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29 Mar 2008 at 10:13 - 30

There are Shiverpeaks, as in the Movement of the World article, the norn move to the Northern/Southern Shiverpeaks and the Ice and Snow Dragon takes over the Far Shiverpeaks.

I think when looking at how Tyria will look like in GW2, you should read the http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_...t_of_the_World instead of looking at the image for GW2.

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

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The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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29 Mar 2008 at 15:29 - 31

Actually...is it just me or is Orr not risen in that "map" behind the logo? because it looks to me like Kryta is pretty much the same and aside from the ring of fire islands appearing green (wtf on that btw?).

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

29 Mar 2008 at 17:24 - 32

The Ring of Fire Island Chain is not even shown in the logo as the Guild Wars 2 title covers the area it would be around so not sure how you can see its green.

And yeah as mentioned in this thread a couple of times Orr isnt there. But then again this logo was released back around March 07 so you cant really expect it to have everything in the "Future Tyria" down nor can we base anything on it as it may not be the final map.

H I R O

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

CA 110HH/300IH State Champ 10 Land of dominationNNNNN

--- アoo アugs アlan --- [ァアァ]

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30 Mar 2008 at 02:52 - 33

That would be really cool(im ranking up on posts ^^)

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

30 Mar 2008 at 05:40 - 34

To be honest, it looks more like normal stretching from the "Sphereize" option in Photoshop than anything thats indicative of Tyria's future geography.

Still looks nice though.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

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Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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30 Mar 2008 at 06:46 - 35

I think when they made that they just 'took' the map of tyria, turned it all green for simplicity, turned it into a sphere, put a border, 'Guild Wars,' and the 2 on it and said "ok, done."

Eldin

Forge Runner

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America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

30 Mar 2008 at 21:23 - 36

Yeah, we may be thinking too much into this. For example the sphereness is just for cool effect - Tyria in full + Cantha + Elona (and any other places) could NOT fit onto a single globe if that was to scale.

Also, didn't the GW2 logo come out before "The Movement of the World"? So I dunno.

Bohya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Vabbi

Farming Crewuk [fcuk]

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31 Mar 2008 at 00:08 - 37

Very small planet! I don't want to think of Tyria as a planet with alien lifeforms (Giant Insects and an oversized dancing head).

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

31 Mar 2008 at 00:35 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

Also, didn't the GW2 logo come out before "The Movement of the World"? So I dunno.

Yep. Though they probably had an idea about what they were gonna do with "Future Tyria" when they made that logo i doubt they took time to make it fit.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

31 Mar 2008 at 15:08 - 39

I was wondering around and looked at the Tablets of Janthir, and found this 1:

The crossroads will come, a hiccup in time when the rest of history has not been written. At this juncture, when the fate of the world hangs in the balance, the forces of evil will rise. It is at this point, that the chosen ones may fail

-- Scroll of Seeing

I thought this was very interesting, because we, as the chosen, failed at the juncture in the room with the evil dragon rising....we ignored him, and thus doomed the world to the way it is (or will be) in GW2. Heh.

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

31 Mar 2008 at 15:42 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

I was wondering around and looked at the Tablets of Janthir, and found this 1:

The crossroads will come, a hiccup in time when the rest of history has not been written. At this juncture, when the fate of the world hangs in the balance, the forces of evil will rise. It is at this point, that the chosen ones may fail

-- Scroll of Seeing

I thought this was very interesting, because we, as the chosen, failed at the juncture in the room with the evil dragon rising....we ignored him, and thus doomed the world to the way it is (or will be) in GW2. Heh.

The interesting thing about this is, although it's probably speaking about the lich or just nothing in particular, it is relevant. Like a real prophecy.

You're right, we did fail and we have tipped the scales in evil's favor!