I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right section if not could a mod move it for me please.
I keep hearing about people saying that they have perfect weapons and then quoting a load of numbers.
could some one post here what perfect weapons are Ie the max damage the different weapons cam do and what makes it perfect ?
also could some one explain what the numbers mean 15/50 20/20 etc on a weapon as I keep seeing it on weapons advertised as perfect.
perfect ?
Ryu_ookami
Taurucis
15/50 is usually 15^50, or "You deal 15% more damage while your health is above 50%" and is one of the most liked modifiers.
20/20 is for Sundering - You have a 20% chance of reducing your target's armor by 20%.
Perfect is usually when all the mods are maxed out.
20/20 is for Sundering - You have a 20% chance of reducing your target's armor by 20%.
Perfect is usually when all the mods are maxed out.
netniwk
in theory,a weapon can have many options for perfect mods
but perfect is most used for martial weapons:
15^50(the damage mod)
+30hp
20/20 sundering(sundering sux)
or shield
+30hp
-5(20%)
but perfect is most used for martial weapons:
15^50(the damage mod)
+30hp
20/20 sundering(sundering sux)
or shield
+30hp
-5(20%)
Stolen Souls
Yeah, "perfect", to many is "req9 (though many seem to be confused, thinking the word "requirement" starts with a "q"), 15^50, 20/20, +30"...which means "Requires 9 in that specific attribute, Armor Penetration +20% (20% chance), Health +30.
Though keep in mind, the REAL definition of a perfect weapon is anything with perfect max mods on it.
Though keep in mind, the REAL definition of a perfect weapon is anything with perfect max mods on it.
isamu kurosawa
and as usual, the common "perfect" mods happen to be some of the worst in the game for most wepons.
Sundering on daggers for example, "perfect" yet useless.
Sundering on daggers for example, "perfect" yet useless.
Tutis Evito
There is also HCT & HRC 20/20 meaning you have a half cast time and a half recharge time of 20% for spells....
Bohya
Zealous on daggers is the perfect mod.
19% sundering and 20% sundering can mean the different between 100g and 2k.
Oh and gold weps are favoured over purple. Gold is 'perfecterer' than purple!
19% sundering and 20% sundering can mean the different between 100g and 2k.
Oh and gold weps are favoured over purple. Gold is 'perfecterer' than purple!
Chthon
"Perfect" has three meanings:
1. A particular mod is "perfect" if it is maxed. Example a 20% enchanting sword pommel is "perfect," but a 19% one is not.
2. An item may be called "perfect" if:
3. An item may be called "perfect" if:
1. A particular mod is "perfect" if it is maxed. Example a 20% enchanting sword pommel is "perfect," but a 19% one is not.
2. An item may be called "perfect" if:
- It's max damage
- It's req 9
- It's inscribable or has an inherent mod that is both "perfect" (under meaning #1) and desirable for that weapon type (usually 15^50).
3. An item may be called "perfect" if:
- It's max damage
- It's req 9
- It's inscribed with a 15^50 inscription or has an inherent 15^50 mod
- It has a 20/20 sundering prefix attached.
- It has a +30 hp suffix attached.
R.Shayne
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Originally Posted by r.shayne
Mar. 04, 2008 18:50:31 This is NOT perfect! Dont say it is .20/20instead of +1-1 is perfect. r.shayne Mar. 05, 2008 08:51:08 Actually a perfect is any weapon with all maximum modifications and with maximum damage. It is still debated as to what the requirement should be on a perfect weapon, but I have always felt that a requirement of nine (9) or less is perfect. Individual preference, as seen by your choice in a 20/20 sundering, does not determine if it is perfect. The zealous modification of -1 / +1 is a max modification for the sword and has a greater benefit if running a half energy / adrenalin builds on a warrior. A sundering mod would be of more use on an axe or scythe with their increased chance of scoring critical hits. The forums on Guru have several debates listed on what makes a perfect weapon, such as this one; http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...perfect+weapon. Mar. 27, 2008 12:06:14 Sorry, 15^50, 20/20,+30 are perfect mods. Dont be a dick you know this. r.shayne Mar. 28, 2008 08:04:12 You may wish to take this to a debate forum instead of through private messages to get a better prespective and a better understanding of game mechanics. On the fifth sentence I did make a mistake it should read "A sundering mod would be of more use on an axe or scythe with increased chance of scoring higher damage during critical hits." A new debate has been posted here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...hlight=perfect |
I do have to admit that I run a furous mod on a hammer, don't use it much as the damage + armor is just not there but it just looks good to me and looks win over pratical all the time.
kobey
In trading terms: only 15^50, 20/20, +30 is perfect
Before flame comes in, i only said "Perfect" in "Trading Terms". I didn't say whether it is good or not or whether it is correct in the "English" sense.
Before flame comes in, i only said "Perfect" in "Trading Terms". I didn't say whether it is good or not or whether it is correct in the "English" sense.
Snograt
Exactly, Kobe. "Perfect" is a misnomer used purely in trading and, as stated above, means req 9, 15^50, 20/20 +30 for martial weapons.
In actuality, there is and can be no perfect. Different weapons are "perfect" for different situations.
In actuality, there is and can be no perfect. Different weapons are "perfect" for different situations.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by R.Shayne
The messages I quoted above came from an auction I held for a perfect shadow blade. I really don't know what to make of it, don't want to accuse the guy of being "sub-human trade troll" (thanks for giving them titles Chthon).
I do have to admit that I run a furous mod on a hammer, don't use it much as the damage + armor is just not there but it just looks good to me and looks win over pratical all the time. |
Excellent combo with that armor though (which I usually hate, stupid warriors with dyed black primeval). Never would have thought of it. I approve this message (both the content about perfect mods being many different things and the awesome screenshot).
Quaker
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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
"req9 (though many seem to be confused, thinking the word "requirement" starts with a "q"),
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DirtyDirty
So what would be 'perfect armor' ?
BulletStopper
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Originally Posted by Quaker
You mean like Eight cylinder engine starts with a "V" (V8)?
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arual
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Originally Posted by kobey
In trading terms: only 15^50, 20/20, +30 is perfect
Before flame comes in, i only said "Perfect" in "Trading Terms". I didn't say whether it is good or not or whether it is correct in the "English" sense. |
Personally though I dislike the use of the word 'perfect' when trading anyway - and think that anyone who does use it commonly when refering to "Req.9, 15^50, 20/20, +30hp" items perhaps satisfies the criteria of the aforementioned "sub-human trade troll".
Lykan
Perfect is in the eye of the beholder...
Barbie
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Originally Posted by DirtyDirty
So what would be 'perfect armor' ?
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60 for Elementalist
60 for Mesmer
60 for Monk
60 for Necromancer
60 for Ritualist
70 for Assassin
70 for Dervish
70 for Ranger
80 for Paragon
80 for Warrior
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Originally Posted by Lykan
Perfect is in the eye of the beholder...
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kobey
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Originally Posted by arual
In trading terms alot of people refer to weapons satisfying the "Req.9, 15^50, 20/20, +30hp" criteria as being perfect that is true. To say that when refereing to a 'perfect' item you must use ONLY those criteria is quite wrong. Obviously you are one such person who feels like that but do not believe for a second that other people with different definitions of 'perfect' whilst trading don't exist.
Personally though I dislike the use of the word 'perfect' when trading anyway - and think that anyone who does use it commonly when refering to "Req.9, 15^50, 20/20, +30hp" items perhaps satisfies the criteria of the aforementioned "sub-human trade troll". |
1: You don't know me. (at least I don't know who are you)
2: You haven't traded with me (I believe)
3: If you go out spamming WTS PERFECT xx sword (15% vs hexed foes, zealous, +5ar) -- chances are you will get a nasty feedback. And NO, you won't get it for me. I am just telling you what you gonna expect while trading in game.
4: When I say trading terms, i meant the majority of people trading, I don't mean ALL. You gonna expect people who deviate from the norm. (like me)
Savio
For trading, a perfect weapon means "req 9 15^50 20/20 +30"... the traders don't give a damn about what perfect actually means or how anyone dislikes it. If people decide to call inherent modifer weapons "old-school", is it anyone's position to say what term should be used instead?
But I suppose threads about perfect weapons always attract those posters who need the e-peen boost by boasting that they are smarter than "those n00b ebayers".
But I suppose threads about perfect weapons always attract those posters who need the e-peen boost by boasting that they are smarter than "those n00b ebayers".