Great Destroyer Suggestion

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

I think the whole concept of the Battle against the GD needs a new Concept:


First of all the GD should have HP like this:

NM > 15000
HM > 25000

Energy:

NM > 500
HM > 1000

Energy Reg:

NM : >>>>
HM : >>>>>>

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The Problem of the GD is atm, that is is too simple killable due to the fact, that is can be so easily outcountered with Skills like Pain Inverter, Insigneous Parasite, Backfire and Empathy ect. and all those Trigger Happy Damage Counter Skills, those 1 Use and Kill-Skills , with that the GD kills itself in seconds, if it ses the wrong skills in the wrong moment and hits with them the whole party...

That must be changed!!! The whole battle needs to become harder in both modes. Those Noobs that can't beat the GD still in NM, there you must really ask yourself, how bad players those persons must be and how they made it anyhow to the GD >,< such people must really suck at playing the Game and sure get only perma rushed by others, - such people, which get also rushed with their Lvl 1-3 charas from Ascalon to Droknars >.> *spits on, such people have really not the right to complain about the GD and their personal inability to play games like GW, such people should better play Tetris ...*


However, back to the GD:

First of to the changes about the GD itself:


- The GD should receive Monster Skills, that makes the GD immune against Hex Spells and Conditions, which the GD will instantly use, when its HP go below 80%.

Example:

Hex Reflector-Scales [GD Monster Skill]
The GD will become for 5 Minutes immune versus all hex Spells of any sources and Hex's casted on the GD will be reflected back to all nearby Foes with 100% longer Duration, than normal.

Condition Cure-Scales [GD Monster Skill]
The GD will become for 5 Minutes immune versus all Conditions of any sources and for all Conditions on the GD, when using this Skill will the GD be healed by 5% HP per Condition, everytime a condition gets applied at the GD and receives +5 Defense more per Condition, while the Condition is active.

These Monster Skills will force players to rely on pure strength for spike damage. The team must then find a way to deal simple good enough DPS, because Conditions and hexes won't help then

Then some normal Skills the GD should receive:

[skill]Elemental Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill]
[skill]Arcane Echo[/skill]


And another 2 Monster Skills, 1 for Attacking and 1 for Self Heal

Armageddon Sphere [GD Monster Skill]
For the next 10 seconds will the GD go into a defensive stance, within those 10 seconds, the GD will spawn for every 3000 HP lost 1 Lvl 30 Armageddon Sphere, which will come with 3000 HP.
When such a Armageddon Sphere dies, then will spawn out of the Corpse of the Sphere a Set of 3 Lvl 30 Destroyers consisting out of 2 Warriors & 1 Ranger Type. The Armageddon Sphere's self are Protection Monks.
When the GD gets attacked, while being in his defensive stance, he will counter attack after the 10 seconds with an Armageddon Breath , which will deal to a targeted foe and all its adjacent foes a damage equal to the amount of damage the GD received while being in its defense stance.
While in the defense stance,will the GD receive only 75% of the damage, the GD would normally receive.

An Armageddon Sphere comes with following Skills:

[skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill]
[skill]Spirit Bond[/skill]
[skill]Ether Feast[/skill]
[skill]Shield Guardian[/skill]
[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]
[skill]Guardian[/skill]
[skill]Channeling[/skill]
[skill]Resurrect[/skill]


and the GD's last Skill

Destroyer Fusion [GD Monster Skill]
The GD will instantly kill 1 randomous Destroyer on the Map to absorb its powers. The Fusion will heal the GD by 2x the Amount of Max HP from the absorbed Destroyer. For the next 20 seconds will the GD move 25% faster, attacks will be 10% stronger and his Scales will be fusioned with the hard shell of the absorbed Destroyer, giving the GD for the time period a Damage Reduction of 5



Now to the changes for the concept of the fight:

We bring in the concept of the Allies, which should help you fighting the GD.
There we have the Norns, the Dwarfs and the Asuras

Each Ally-Faction will help you fighting the GD every 5 Mins .

The Dwarfs: The Dwarfs will heal the whole Party and make you for certain time immune against Burning. They will also weaken the Damage of the Destroyers for 1 Minute by 25%

The Norns: Some Norns will help you fighting after 10 Minutes (say 3-5 Norns that iwll appear then to help you)

The Asuras: Will run around to collect hot Magma as Energy Ressource (Heat to Energy ^^) from the start on, to prepare a huge Cannon Weapon made by Asuran Technologies *g* to attack the GD after 15 Minutes the GD with their "Asura Strike-Blaster V. 0.1*, which will deal 1000 Damage per Shot (1 Shot every 2 minutes then) , once the Cannon is ready for usage.


Hmm, all just a concept for an epic battle, if it maybe wouldn't work or would be still too easy, hmm, maybe raise then more the max Hp of the GD ...

But I think, Skill wise with such Monster Skills, the battle WOULD become epic ^^

What do you think of this concept ?

Good ? Too insane ? or needs some tweaks more and then good ?

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

So you got lucky. Wrong build and you're toast. It's not inherently easy to kill a 3000 hp boss with knockdown, 300+ damage AoE spells, supported by about 5 destroyers, while you're constantly burning. It IS easy with the right build. But everything is, and will remain that way as long as missions are completely predictable.
Maybe the OP will chime in and say whether he researched the mission and builds before trying, as I think he did?

Originally Posted by GODh

If you know what to do then everything is simple... but i agree it is weird that a endgame mission can be solo'ed. Maybe just add something that removes monk enchantments (within a certain range?)

Originally Posted by Arkantos

ANet, like most businesses, are appealing to the masses. More players = more money.

Originally Posted by Shadowlance.

I think ANet has it right. Make the primary storyline fun, varied, and challenging, but not too challenging so that most of your casual gamers get frustrated, yet not too easy so that most of the community (casual and hardcore alike) think it was no challenge at all. In other words, appeal to the masses.

They add hard mode, the Prophecies epilogue quests, DoA, and dungeons like Slaver's Exile to give the folks wanting a challenge something more to do above and beyond the primary storyline. This lets casual gamers have a sense of satisfaction that they "beat the game" while folks that spend 40 hours a week in GW can do the "extra stuff".

To summarize, I'd say the Great Destroyer should not be made stronger, but "optional" bosses like Duncan the Black should be made stronger, especially in hard mode.

Originally Posted by Quru

Suggestions in random order:

-No insane HP, something like rotscale. But give him +10hp regen ALL THE TIME.
-Spells can target him only when he is knocked down.
-Hexes and conditions expire 5 times faster.
-Monster skill "Runners nightmare":
Target foe and all adjancent foes struck for 200 shadow damage. This damage is doubled if foe struck by this skill have enchantment. If target foe have enchantment on him, you steal 100hp from all foes in the area.
-Triple the amount of destroyers summoned.
-80% change to block, ALL THE TIME. If blocked, attacker is struck for 200 shadow damage and knocked down.
-When his health drops below 50%, all foes in the area suffer from all conditions. These conditions are reapplied every 10 seconds when TGD is below 50%.
-When his health drops below 20%, all foes in the area are struck for 250 shadow damage and knocked down every 15 seconds.


This would be insane. Don't know is this even possible to beat but it would be COOL!

Originally Posted by Whisper Evenstar

Should a general be as powerful as a GOD (Abaddon)?

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

[skill]Resurrect[/skill]

Originally Posted by nvmu

The only way i ahve done that mission is from a runner, because groups usually don't form,