I click the game, the screen loads black like normal at first, then nothing but a white flicker - then crashes to window mode and gives me an error telling me that the game's .exe stopped responding.
Then when I try to open it, it says it stopped working last time it was accessed and gives me the option of starting it in normal or safe mode - neither mode works.
Also tried running it as Admin and in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP2 and that didn't work either, I'm really running out of options here, somehow I'm lead to believe it's a driver issue.. even though my other games seem to work fine.
However since you mention you got it working on 64 bit, this gives me hope that I can get it working somehow.. I also re-installed the game without any applications up just in case that was the problem, but to no avail.
Oh also to note, the game crashes with or without SP1 installed.
64bit Vista and gaming in general
Brianna
Admael
I doubt it's a driver issue, but then again, 80% of Vista errors are Nvidia based errors :/
Hmm... you can take a look at the patches, see if they do anything for ya.
http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/patch/
Hmm... you can take a look at the patches, see if they do anything for ya.
http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/patch/
Brianna
Thanks.
Where does one acquire the 1.4 patch, legitimately? It says you need it prior to installing 1.5.
Edit: Just got 1.4 from FileFront or whatever, still crashes.
Also I just installed 1.5, still crashes as well.
Anyhow I'm tired.. going to switch back to XP for tonight and I'll attempt more tomorrow.
Where does one acquire the 1.4 patch, legitimately? It says you need it prior to installing 1.5.
Edit: Just got 1.4 from FileFront or whatever, still crashes.
Also I just installed 1.5, still crashes as well.
Anyhow I'm tired.. going to switch back to XP for tonight and I'll attempt more tomorrow.
Admael
I have hotfixes and patches that I share with everyone that uses Vista X64. For some reason, Microsoft doesn't tell urge you to update it, or let you know it's vital to run your OS with stability.
when I switched to X64, I looked everywhere for such patches, and spent quite some time looking through Microsoft's KB to find them. At first I was having trouble with Bioshock, it wouldn't run *at all*. But after installing all these patches, I've never had any stability issues.
I keep them on a flashdrive, once I get a chance, I'll rar em and upload em for ya. I don't know why I didn't come up with this before, I guess I like seeing people suffer, lol I'm kidding... April fools? Lawl, anyways I'll upload them in the morning.
PS: It pains me to see anyone go back to XP. I've been using Vista for over a year, and I admit, there were rough times, the media wasn't blowing it out of proportion, but I blame Nvidia.
when I switched to X64, I looked everywhere for such patches, and spent quite some time looking through Microsoft's KB to find them. At first I was having trouble with Bioshock, it wouldn't run *at all*. But after installing all these patches, I've never had any stability issues.
I keep them on a flashdrive, once I get a chance, I'll rar em and upload em for ya. I don't know why I didn't come up with this before, I guess I like seeing people suffer, lol I'm kidding... April fools? Lawl, anyways I'll upload them in the morning.
PS: It pains me to see anyone go back to XP. I've been using Vista for over a year, and I admit, there were rough times, the media wasn't blowing it out of proportion, but I blame Nvidia.
Pasha the Mighty
maybe I'm wasting your time here, but this kind of sounds like a firewall issue, doesn't it? When I used to play the battle for middle earth 2, it used to start up fine, but after every update, I would have to add the game to norton again, or the game would crash everytime I tried to get into multiplayer. Couldn't this be the same thing?
Zamorakk
Youve got the newest graphics card, chipset etc. drivers? Vista updated fully? Im running Vista 64bit now for 3 months, never had any problems.
Snograt
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I have hotfixes and patches that I share with everyone that uses Vista X64. For some reason, Microsoft doesn't tell urge you to update it, or let you know it's vital to run your OS with stability.
when I switched to X64, I looked everywhere for such patches, and spent quite some time looking through Microsoft's KB to find them. |
I'm not going to blame nVidia quite so much - they do recommend the hotfixes and have links to several on their site.
...er, well they did...
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Driver Downloads
Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) Previously on this page, NVIDIA recommended a series of Vista hotfixes for GeForce customers. Windows Vista® SP1 has now been released and it includes all of these hotfixes. Therefore, NVIDIA now recommends upgrading to SP1 for the best Vista experience. To download and install SP1, simply click the ‘Start Menu’, select ‘All Programs’, and then select ‘Windows Update’. |
Brianna
I got SP1 though, but yes those hotfixes would be much appreciated, I just want to game.
Honestly though theres nothing wrong with XP or Vista for me, I see them both as perfectly fit for using, I just have to work out this tiny problem that I have and all is well.
Also yeah I have a brand new computer and pretty much everything, down to my mouse is Vista certified, I also have the latest drivers for everything as well.
The Firewall thing seems a bit far-fetched on my part, as of being the culprit, but hey.. guess it couldn't hurt to try.
Honestly though theres nothing wrong with XP or Vista for me, I see them both as perfectly fit for using, I just have to work out this tiny problem that I have and all is well.
Also yeah I have a brand new computer and pretty much everything, down to my mouse is Vista certified, I also have the latest drivers for everything as well.
The Firewall thing seems a bit far-fetched on my part, as of being the culprit, but hey.. guess it couldn't hurt to try.
Admael
Here ya go.
http://rapidshare.com/files/103603918/x64.rar.html
Brand new computer? 
That's pretty far from the girl I met trying to decide a video card on a budget 
http://rapidshare.com/files/103603918/x64.rar.html
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... Also yeah I have a brand new computer and pretty much everything, down to my mouse is Vista certified, I also have the latest drivers for everything as well ...
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That's pretty far from the girl I met trying to decide a video card on a budget
Brianna
Eh.. screw this I say, nothing on Vista is working, I can't even change the affinity because ''Access is denied'' ffs.
I give up really, might as well F-Disk this and snap the CD in half, complete waste of my time, I mean honestly what is the point in using an OS if you can't game on it? I have freaking tried everything - even those hotfixes.
The AMD one couldn't even run because ''A program needed to access blah blah could not be ran'', I guess you guys are just lucky or something.
I give up really, might as well F-Disk this and snap the CD in half, complete waste of my time, I mean honestly what is the point in using an OS if you can't game on it? I have freaking tried everything - even those hotfixes.
The AMD one couldn't even run because ''A program needed to access blah blah could not be ran'', I guess you guys are just lucky or something.
DutchGun
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Eh.. screw this I say, nothing on Vista is working, I can't even change the affinity because ''Access is denied'' ffs.
I give up really, might as well F-Disk this and snap the CD in half, complete waste of my time, I mean honestly what is the point in using an OS if you can't game on it? I have freaking tried everything - even those hotfixes. The AMD one couldn't even run because ''A program needed to access blah blah could not be ran'', I guess you guys are just lucky or something. |
BTW, 4GB is not accessible to applications - Windows reserves a very large chunk of that. Careful tweaking will push it to about 2.5 to 3.0GB at most, but the rest remains reserved for system and drivers. So, you're going to see games more frequently hit this ceiling in the near future.
Granted, it's not much consolation for the incompatibility you may run into *today*, but... well, there are tradeoffs either way, I guess. A year or two from now, 64-bit will be much more common even in gaming machines.
Brianna
Yes but above posters mention no problems - that means I should be fine too, especially after SP1.
And atm I only have 2GB of ram, I just got 64bit cause I might change that in the future. I didn't think there would really be that much of a difference in the way that 32bit and 64bit work, but apparently they are two different worlds.
And atm I only have 2GB of ram, I just got 64bit cause I might change that in the future. I didn't think there would really be that much of a difference in the way that 32bit and 64bit work, but apparently they are two different worlds.
Admael
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Granted, it's not much consolation for the incompatibility you may run into *today*, but... well, there are tradeoffs either way, I guess. A year or two from now, 64-bit will be much more common even in gaming machines.
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Now, when I was deciding to switch to 64-bit, I still heard about all the drivers that had to be signed by Microsoft, and how they won't allow 3rd party drivers and that it's by that factor alone that the is "security increase". This alone delayed my upgraded, but... I use 3rd party drivers all the time, my solution is clicking the "install anyways" button.
But Brianna, I'd say if any operating system is giving you so much trouble off the bat, do a complete system format, and re-installation: because nothing should give you that much trouble.
Brianna
Can I do a fresh format with OEM though, they won't give me crap for it?
When I installed it I just put the CD in and ran it from a clean HDD, installed it from the 298GB of unallocated space.
When I installed it I just put the CD in and ran it from a clean HDD, installed it from the 298GB of unallocated space.
Admael
Yeah, fresh format from OEM is fine.
When you goto the installation screen where it asks you which drive you want to install it on, make sure you delete the current partition, then make a new one, then format the new one, then install on it
It's fine that you install over unallocated space, because Vista automatically preps the drive, but it doesn't hurt to do it manually.
When you goto the installation screen where it asks you which drive you want to install it on, make sure you delete the current partition, then make a new one, then format the new one, then install on it
It's fine that you install over unallocated space, because Vista automatically preps the drive, but it doesn't hurt to do it manually.
Pasha the Mighty
Umm, didn't vista sp1 allow you to have 4gb of ram in 32bit os's? I think I read that somewhere...
Brianna
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Yeah, fresh format from OEM is fine.
When you goto the installation screen where it asks you which drive you want to install it on, make sure you delete the current partition, then make a new one, then format the new one, then install on it It's fine that you install over unallocated space, because Vista automatically preps the drive, but it doesn't hurt to do it manually. |
ElinoraNeSangre
Let us know how the install goes; I can try to come up with some other thoughts, too. Don't know how helpful they'll be, but I can give it a shot.
I've been running 64bit Vista since... erm actually I can't even remember how long I've been running it. Probably too long. It's working fine for me; no problems with GW or any other game I play.
I do usually tell people to go for the 32bit unless they have a high tolerance for general BS - I've had to do some funky things to get drivers to work, and sometimes you just will not get drivers for what you want.
32bit SP1 does show you if you have more RAM, but the usage of that RAM doesn't change. The only real update there is to show the RAM you have, not just the RAM that Vista can use (and this is pretty hardware dependant).
I've been running 64bit Vista since... erm actually I can't even remember how long I've been running it. Probably too long. It's working fine for me; no problems with GW or any other game I play.
I do usually tell people to go for the 32bit unless they have a high tolerance for general BS - I've had to do some funky things to get drivers to work, and sometimes you just will not get drivers for what you want.
32bit SP1 does show you if you have more RAM, but the usage of that RAM doesn't change. The only real update there is to show the RAM you have, not just the RAM that Vista can use (and this is pretty hardware dependant).
Brianna
Honestly I was thinking it was my hardware, like RAM timings, I just don't get why single-player works but multi doesn't.
Guild Wars was the only thing that worked right, also I downloaded my card's drivers right off the Nvidia site and installed them with no problems, tried the ones the update system had, but no change.
Guild Wars was the only thing that worked right, also I downloaded my card's drivers right off the Nvidia site and installed them with no problems, tried the ones the update system had, but no change.
Admael
If you haven't messed with the RAM timings, it should still be on auto, which means it's running at the slowest, therefore most stable setting possible.
But it's a good thing to find out what your RAM is rated at, then set manufacturer's timings because you don't wanna add another problem to your list.
EDIT: And if single player works but multi doesn't, it's a good chance it's software, not hardware based.
But it's a good thing to find out what your RAM is rated at, then set manufacturer's timings because you don't wanna add another problem to your list.
EDIT: And if single player works but multi doesn't, it's a good chance it's software, not hardware based.
Pasha the Mighty
I agree it's software based. I didn't hear anything about this anymore, so I'm assuming you checked the firewall? If you have Norton, it's a horrible program which blocks almost everything, so you should still check that befor formatting your drive.
Admael
I highly doubt it's a firewall issue. Firewall usually restricts the access of files that are accessing the internet, not crash a program entirely.
If your firewall bares capability to crash a program, I'd highly advise against using it.
Try this before formatting:
http://rapidshare.com/files/103895244/iw3mp.rar.html
If your firewall bares capability to crash a program, I'd highly advise against using it.
Try this before formatting:
http://rapidshare.com/files/103895244/iw3mp.rar.html
Brianna
RAM timings are on Auto, also I would never have norton - checked firewall on and off, has nothing to do with the crashes.
Snograt
Been trawling a bit more on the specifics of CoD 4 crashing in multiplayer.
Read this for starters: http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwb...orum/8820.html - one problem cropping up a lot is Punkbuster - try d/ling an updated copy. Oh, and see if it works when you plug a mic in >< (I know, I know..)
Believe it or not, after posting that, I found ANOTHER forum (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/905335.html) - with someone else saying CoD4 multiplayer will NOT work without a mic plugged in.
This CAN'T be the answer, surely?
Read this for starters: http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwb...orum/8820.html - one problem cropping up a lot is Punkbuster - try d/ling an updated copy. Oh, and see if it works when you plug a mic in >< (I know, I know..)
Believe it or not, after posting that, I found ANOTHER forum (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/905335.html) - with someone else saying CoD4 multiplayer will NOT work without a mic plugged in.
This CAN'T be the answer, surely?
Brianna
I had to plug my mic in to make skype's calls stay up, if I had no mic in, it would automatically drop them - I'll check it out in a bit.
Also I'll try to uninstall punkbuster and other things to see if that helps, and I'll read those forums in a bit too. Have to go clean now though.
Oh my freaking god, Snograt, I love you!
It was the mic.. I plugged it in, and the game started up on the first try, rofl.
Thank god that saved me a lot of trouble.
Also I'll try to uninstall punkbuster and other things to see if that helps, and I'll read those forums in a bit too. Have to go clean now though.
Oh my freaking god, Snograt, I love you!
It was the mic.. I plugged it in, and the game started up on the first try, rofl.
Thank god that saved me a lot of trouble.
Snograt
Do you know, I just knew as soon as I read that second report that it was going to be the answer.
What awful, awful programming.
What awful, awful programming.
Brianna
Aye, It just sucks that I found this out after the fact that I screwed with my drivers and such, at least I didn't pull a major stunt.
Oh well, at least I can play the game now.. so now I just have to find out how to copy my multi-player data over to here, don't want to rank up to 50 again.
Oh well, at least I can play the game now.. so now I just have to find out how to copy my multi-player data over to here, don't want to rank up to 50 again.
Aerian_Skybane
Wow, that mic thing is a really bizzare problem. Kinda funny actually.
Manually update punkbuster though and that should be that
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Manually update punkbuster though and that should be that
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jjdefan
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Hehe - you posted while I was editing ^_^
Matters not, I'll go with what's the best now, then see what Windows 7 has to offer (looks like they're delaying it until at least 2010 to sell as many Vistas as they can! 2010 is a delay? oO) |
Admael
XP came out a year after ME did
Maybe since 7 was planned right after Vista (within' a year or two) and now it's being pushed to 2010 caused it to be a 'delay'.
Maybe since 7 was planned right after Vista (within' a year or two) and now it's being pushed to 2010 caused it to be a 'delay'.
Brianna
What's the point in releasing so many OS's in a short amount of time though? Surely XP was a success, but it also lived a very long lifespan before being ''replaced''.
I just hope my money doesn't go to waste on this, I'd at least like to get 4 or some years of use before a newer OS comes out.
I just hope my money doesn't go to waste on this, I'd at least like to get 4 or some years of use before a newer OS comes out.
Snograt
Think of Vista as a Windows XP Service Pack, and think of Windows 7 as a new OS.
Probably
Probably
majestikk
Does anyone else get seemingly random crashes with x64?
I have everything updated and a pretty good computer imo
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Mushkin SP PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64BIT
AuzenTech X-FI Prelude 7.1
EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GTS 640MB
Q6600
everything has been updated from their official websites and I don't know what else to do. is it normal to crash randomly? 1/2 the time it shows the send error message to anet but the other 1/2 it just goes black and the sound loops
there's no error code either.
is it because it's running an emulated 32bit? should I try to run compatibility mode or something?
if there's any other info I can post let me know
I have everything updated and a pretty good computer imo
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Mushkin SP PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64BIT
AuzenTech X-FI Prelude 7.1
EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GTS 640MB
Q6600
everything has been updated from their official websites and I don't know what else to do. is it normal to crash randomly? 1/2 the time it shows the send error message to anet but the other 1/2 it just goes black and the sound loops
there's no error code either.
is it because it's running an emulated 32bit? should I try to run compatibility mode or something?
if there's any other info I can post let me know
Admael
It's your RAM. Sounds like one of the sticks are bad/undervolted. Mushkin requires atleast +2.1v, make sure you have that for them set manually in the BIOS.
llsektorll
not a good idea... being 64 bit it is a bit of a ram hog... recommend 3+ GB of ram 4GB should suffice
Brianna
Eh I only have 2 GB of ram and I get a 5.9 on Vista 64 bit with it, and the only thing I *sometimes* choke on is CPU load, with Guild Wars up and lots of multi-tasking it can hit 100% sometimes, bleh.
Oh yeah, and I notice no problems with two cores + Guild Wars on this system, so it must have been something with my Windows XP for sure.
Oh yeah, and I notice no problems with two cores + Guild Wars on this system, so it must have been something with my Windows XP for sure.
Admael
Yeah, 2GB is plenty for Vista 64.
I usually run 2GB @ 800 3-3-3-6-1T or 4GB @ 1200 5-5-4-12-2T
@majestikk: Seriously, get those voltages checked out, it seems like the main cause of your problem.
I usually run 2GB @ 800 3-3-3-6-1T or 4GB @ 1200 5-5-4-12-2T
@majestikk: Seriously, get those voltages checked out, it seems like the main cause of your problem.
majestikk
I changed it in the bios thanks guys
the mobo default settings are at +1.8 and it hasn't happened before with crysis or any other new games so I didn't have to worry about it before
working flawlessly now
the mobo default settings are at +1.8 and it hasn't happened before with crysis or any other new games so I didn't have to worry about it before
working flawlessly now