It's a simple request, really.
We all know that getting a group together can sometimes take a while, and life may call someone away from the computer, but when that person has heros in the group, and someone else drops by, it can be very annoying. All I'm requesting is to give the party leader the right to kick heros. I don't think it's much to ask, and would make grouping a little more convenient, which, of course, doesn't hurt anyone at all.
Thanks.
Give Party Leaders The Ability to Kick Heros.
You can't see me
Dem Babyz Iz Mine
Yeah, but then that takes away some of the team aspect. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.
freaky naughty
/SIGNED, I hate it when some nub refuses to lose his heroes when it's obvious he hasn't played the game for more than five minutes.
Sir Pandra Pierva
sorry last thing i need is another pug kicking my heros for favor of his crappy ones. and yes i have seen this happen too many times a wammo group leader wants only his heros and they are terribad.
a sf monk with met shower and wards
a woh ele with no fire skills and nothing put into the energy storage attribute
i can't remember the third hero.
he called his heros pro and couldn't figure out why we kept wiping on a the squid boss at the end of the cavalon mission
/unsigned since most of the people calling for goups are the really crappy pugs who think that mending is better than obby tanks<_< or even an obby tank using really crappy heros.
a sf monk with met shower and wards
a woh ele with no fire skills and nothing put into the energy storage attribute
i can't remember the third hero.
he called his heros pro and couldn't figure out why we kept wiping on a the squid boss at the end of the cavalon mission
/unsigned since most of the people calling for goups are the really crappy pugs who think that mending is better than obby tanks<_< or even an obby tank using really crappy heros.
You can't see me
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sorry last thing i need is another pug kicking my heros for favor of his crappy ones. and yes i have seen this happen too many times a wammo group leader wants only his heros and they are terribad.
a sf monk with met shower and wards a woh ele with no fire skills and nothing put into the energy storage attribute i can't remember the third hero. he called his heros pro and couldn't figure out why we kept wiping on a the squid boss at the end of the cavalon mission /unsigned since most of the people calling for goups are the really crappy pugs who think that mending is better than obby tanks<_< or even an obby tank using really crappy heros. |
Sir Pandra Pierva
hmm mayby but if someone is afk i dont think you would be going with them. There are reasons that PUGway died hard and it wasn't just heros it died back in factions actually if you ask me. After we got some semi competent henchmen most people just Henchwayd factions with out people than got a group for the last 2 missions.
Dem Babyz Iz Mine
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The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.
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You can't see me
People have to, and probably should, use the bathroom before starting something. There's no reason not to group with them, but the hero situation is still annoying. It's one of the many cases.
Kanyatta
You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"
In order for this to work, there would have to be some quiz you'd have to take before being able to be a party leader.
In order for this to work, there would have to be some quiz you'd have to take before being able to be a party leader.
You can't see me
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The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.
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freaky naughty
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You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"
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MisterB
Not needed.
Party leader can just kick the controlling player, and then the heroes are gone, too.
Oh, and heroes fail at Dragon Slash. Warrior heroes are sketchy at tactics and positioning, and don't know how to use adrenaline.
edit: after kicking the controlling player, just invite them to your party again, and don't let them join with their heroes, or just fill your party so you only have one free slot
Party leader can just kick the controlling player, and then the heroes are gone, too.
Oh, and heroes fail at Dragon Slash. Warrior heroes are sketchy at tactics and positioning, and don't know how to use adrenaline.
edit: after kicking the controlling player, just invite them to your party again, and don't let them join with their heroes, or just fill your party so you only have one free slot
Ctb
I could go either way on this. On the one hand, it's only common sense that the party leader has final say over who's in the party. On the other hand, you can always just kick the guy who should have kicked his heroes.
I see where you're coming from though. You're in a group and one of the members has heroes, as per the current plan, goes AFK for a bit, and in the meantime you find some other people you'd rather have than the heroes. They're gone, you can't kick the heroes, and now you lose the other players who go to another team. Annoying.
I see where you're coming from though. You're in a group and one of the members has heroes, as per the current plan, goes AFK for a bit, and in the meantime you find some other people you'd rather have than the heroes. They're gone, you can't kick the heroes, and now you lose the other players who go to another team. Annoying.
Siirius Black
/Not Signed.
If this is implemented I can forsee major abuse.
If someone wants to keep their heroes, just kick him out of the group and get someone else.
If this is implemented I can forsee major abuse.
If someone wants to keep their heroes, just kick him out of the group and get someone else.
Kanyatta
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The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.
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You can't see me
What does the server have to do with any of this? Of course there's no way to police it. Again, that's why you don't go with groups with leaders that are terrible. In fact, this happens to me mostly when guild grouping. Someone has to go to the bathroom, we're not sure of the turnout, there are heros, someone else shows up, spots are taken.
If your party leader is abusing the feature and you can't live with his builds, then leave, since he'll most likely fail anyway.
If your party leader is abusing the feature and you can't live with his builds, then leave, since he'll most likely fail anyway.
Kanyatta
I don't know? Maybe someone wants to get a group in The Wilds and doesn't want to hero/hench, and at any given moment there's only 9 or 10 people there, so they don't have much of a choice. Maybe their guildless? Like I said, I don't PvE with real people anyway, because most anyone can hero/hench through the whole game, including HM.
wanmoke
If you're unsure of the turnout, you can ask everyone to just drop their heroes until you're reasonably sure everyone who's coming is in the group.
/signed anyway because I've had the same situation happen. >.>
/signed anyway because I've had the same situation happen. >.>
Miska Bow
Just kick the player. In the few times that i did get in a PuG, I never went in a group with my heroes (i consider it a bad GW manner), and the few times they were used, it was for a lack of player to fill the role needed AND ONLY after someone suggested it.
Tarun
/signed here
Jenn
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/Not Signed.
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jonnieboi05
and this is why i don't group with real people (except for my g/f.... otherwise she'd probally kill me [but even so it's been ages since i was even with HER doing some PvE type event]) but no.. seriously... this is why it's so much better to do everything with AI. you never have to worry about these "problems".
and yes, i agree, the feature would be VERY abused.
and yes, i agree, the feature would be VERY abused.
legion_rat
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I dont see where its that big of a problem. as mentioned if you want to loose the heros and a player refuses kick the player. What happens if the leader is retarded and wont lose his lame ass heros? can the person on the bottom of the list him the hero?
This of course is why I dont PUG.
~the rat~
I dont see where its that big of a problem. as mentioned if you want to loose the heros and a player refuses kick the player. What happens if the leader is retarded and wont lose his lame ass heros? can the person on the bottom of the list him the hero?
This of course is why I dont PUG.
~the rat~
You can't see me
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The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.
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anonymous
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You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"
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Lykan
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Originally Posted by Dem Babyz Iz Mine
. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.
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Cale Roughstar
/notsigned
If you their heroes are bad enough that they need to be kicked, then you probably dont want that player in your group as well...
If you their heroes are bad enough that they need to be kicked, then you probably dont want that player in your group as well...
Draginvry
/notsigned
If their heros' bars are terribad, there's a good chance that the player controlling them isn't much better with their own bar. The solution is simple, kick the player with the heros. Also, their refusal to kick heros shows them to be selfish, and not a team player. If you haven't kicked them by the time you realize this, then pinch yourself for your stupidity, and then kick the player.
If someone immediately puts in a bunch of monks like "OMG check out Ogden dual HB spamz lolz" There is a very good chance that such a player doesn't even belong in one of your party slots to begin with.
I always kick the player if they refuse to ping hero skills, or remove heros when I ask.
If their heros' bars are terribad, there's a good chance that the player controlling them isn't much better with their own bar. The solution is simple, kick the player with the heros. Also, their refusal to kick heros shows them to be selfish, and not a team player. If you haven't kicked them by the time you realize this, then pinch yourself for your stupidity, and then kick the player.
If someone immediately puts in a bunch of monks like "OMG check out Ogden dual HB spamz lolz" There is a very good chance that such a player doesn't even belong in one of your party slots to begin with.
I always kick the player if they refuse to ping hero skills, or remove heros when I ask.
Kanyatta
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I don't know how many times I'll have to say this.
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Holly Herro
Pugs died with heroes.
gremlin
So what is so difficult about talking to the rest of the party then you close the group then restart and all those not afk rejoin.
Takes oh 20 seconds, probably about as long as kicking heroes and explaining to the group why your doing it.
If the party members cannot handle that little task then you wouldn't want to pug with them now would you.
Takes oh 20 seconds, probably about as long as kicking heroes and explaining to the group why your doing it.
If the party members cannot handle that little task then you wouldn't want to pug with them now would you.
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Dem Babyz Iz Mine
Yeah, but then that takes away some of the team aspect. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.
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Sleeper Service
? all this command would do is extend (and rightfully so imo) the party leaders right of decision to heroes...
look at it from the other perspective, if you join someones team and they kick YOUR heroes from the party (for whatever reason) would you not leave?
I would. (if i dont like the reason)
/signed.
look at it from the other perspective, if you join someones team and they kick YOUR heroes from the party (for whatever reason) would you not leave?
I would. (if i dont like the reason)
/signed.
Rushin Roulette
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Pugs died with heroes.
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.As to the subject... Ill say;
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I think its a great idea. Dont get me wrong, but the turning point is... not everyone would use this ability propperly, you will get loads of abuse from this. A shame really
Velise_Snowtorm
I can see the point of the OP, but I agree with the many others that a feature like that would be abused.
Maybe a better idea would be to have all heroes automatically kicked when you join a group? I don't PuG, but I always have to tell a guildie or friend to drops some heroes when a few of us group up. *shrug*
Maybe a better idea would be to have all heroes automatically kicked when you join a group? I don't PuG, but I always have to tell a guildie or friend to drops some heroes when a few of us group up. *shrug*
MithranArkanere
There is already a quite easy way to kick heroes: Kick their leader.
The current system makes people talk and decide. So it's better than just kick without asking.
The current system makes people talk and decide. So it's better than just kick without asking.
Shayne Hawke
/signed. Useful enough.
You can't see me
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Yes, you keep quoting that post, and people keep refuting it, I realize there's still about 3 or 4 people on here that don't get it yet, but most of us do, and you keep quoting it, and it keeps getting shot down, and you fail to explain how it is still credible.
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There's no reason a party leader should not have a full party rule capability. If a party leader does not like heros with normal builds, you can probably assume that those builds won't be appealing on a player, or he'll ask the player to switch bars (This has happened to me quite often) to something terrible. Therefore, it's a bad idea to group with him in the first place.
Not everyone watches the chat, even if not afk. They're probably browsing for music while the group gets together, and if one of their heros must be dealt with, it shouldn't be this way, as the group leader's power was designed to take care of this situation.
X Ice Man X
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People have to, and probably should, use the bathroom before starting something. There's no reason not to group with them, but the hero situation is still annoying. It's one of the many cases.
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It will just cause more hassle then its worth, wait the extra minute or kick the player with the heroes and they can join when they come back.
serod
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