I would like to go two ways with this: De-Customize and Master Customization.
There are times which I feel it was stupid to customize a weapon and wish I could reverse my actions. I know that the idea of customizing anything means it is now made specifically for you, but why couldn't that also mean that another character could come along and modify it again to fit their needs.
I would pay many platinum to take the customization off of some of my more rare weapons.
Why not have another gold-sink called Elite Customization or Master Customization? Maybe it could only be applied to uncommon, rare, or unique weapons and not be undone. If it's a good idea, we can talk mods later.
Just my 2 gold.
Customization
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beregond
/signed
I think its a good idea, though it doesn't really effect me. I rarely customize anything.
I think its a good idea, though it doesn't really effect me. I rarely customize anything.
Flem
I don't customize anything but collector weapons, currently. But I would if I could un-do it.
/signed.
/signed.
Shayne Hawke
I'm confused with your idea of Master Customization. You're saying that you feel it was stupid to customize some items that you did, so you want to de-customize that item. Then, you say that there should be some way to not de-customize an item, just the way we have it now.
Is this Master Customization supposed to have some kind of extra bonus?
Is this Master Customization supposed to have some kind of extra bonus?
turnkey1970
/signed.
However, the argument we will hear is that it would further damage the economy. If you customized your crystalline sword, then there is one less out there, causing the prices to stay where they are. If you are able to remove the customizing then there is another crystalline on the market.
However, the argument we will hear is that it would further damage the economy. If you customized your crystalline sword, then there is one less out there, causing the prices to stay where they are. If you are able to remove the customizing then there is another crystalline on the market.
MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand.
RiKio
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand. |
Offtopic: Hey Mitharn, do you remember that thread where I posted something similar to this guy? Your idea is the solution
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Customization is designed to dilliberately remove items from circulation.
It's the reason customization exists in the first place. Otherwise, a.net might as well just add an automatic 20% damage to all weapons and have everything be uncustomized.
Customization is designed to dilliberately remove items from circulation.
It's the reason customization exists in the first place. Otherwise, a.net might as well just add an automatic 20% damage to all weapons and have everything be uncustomized.
Artorius.Maximus
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand. |
C R A F T
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand. |
Steboy93
/not signed
If you want the +20% damage bonus you have to pay the price of not being able to use it on other characters. having it being reversible would be a bad idea, and as HawkofStorms said they may as well just add a perma +20% to all weps if this idea came into place.
If you want the +20% damage bonus you have to pay the price of not being able to use it on other characters. having it being reversible would be a bad idea, and as HawkofStorms said they may as well just add a perma +20% to all weps if this idea came into place.
Tyla
/notsigned
Be completely sure of yourself before customization.
Be completely sure of yourself before customization.
Kanyatta
Un-customization would be super IMBA. Seriously, take your perfect Crystalline, customize it, then, maybe later if you want to delete that character, just un-customize it with no consequences. It would just be abused. Think before you customize.
Also, Master Customization would make PvP IMBA too, unless they did away with normal customization.
Also, Master Customization would make PvP IMBA too, unless they did away with normal customization.
Zahr Dalsk
Caster customizations please.
(Say wands can inflict a brief second of Burning, Blindness, Slowed Attack Speed, or Slow Movement Speed for Fire, Air, Earth, Water respectively. Not enough to be IMBA but just enough to slightly decrease enemy performance when you're not casting.)
(Say wands can inflict a brief second of Burning, Blindness, Slowed Attack Speed, or Slow Movement Speed for Fire, Air, Earth, Water respectively. Not enough to be IMBA but just enough to slightly decrease enemy performance when you're not casting.)
Kanyatta
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(Say wands can inflict a brief second of Burning, Blindness, Slowed Attack Speed, or Slow Movement Speed
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serod
/signed
Custumization should have always been account wide
Custumization should have always been account wide
Yawgmoth
/not signed to uncustomizing, that would destroy the whole point of it.
Explain what do you mean by Master Customization, you only mention it without saying what its meant to do.
If that's customization for the account, then I approve this. There should be a gold-sink (not cheap) option to customize a weapon that's customized to your character to be customized for the whole acc. This obviously shouldn't work on PvP items, although there's no reason why it shouldn't work the other way - let your PvP char use your PvE's customized things. I'd customize my Wintergreen Spear caster collection of power wanding to be used by all my casters
Explain what do you mean by Master Customization, you only mention it without saying what its meant to do.
If that's customization for the account, then I approve this. There should be a gold-sink (not cheap) option to customize a weapon that's customized to your character to be customized for the whole acc. This obviously shouldn't work on PvP items, although there's no reason why it shouldn't work the other way - let your PvP char use your PvE's customized things. I'd customize my Wintergreen Spear caster collection of power wanding to be used by all my casters
Diddy bow
/Signed for account wide
/notsigned for un-customise
I should just get a bot to post that for me ^^.
/notsigned for un-customise
I should just get a bot to post that for me ^^.
Saint Zeth
/notsigned
If you're going to use a particular weapon on a character forever, then go right ahead and customize it. If you plan to sell it later, then don't.
If you're going to use a particular weapon on a character forever, then go right ahead and customize it. If you plan to sell it later, then don't.
Shion Nightbane
Account based would be great
RavagerOfDreams
/signed
doubt i would customize mine but it's nice to have the option
doubt i would customize mine but it's nice to have the option
Fear Me!
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand. |
bathazard
i don't see the point might as well make it always 20%
jiggles
WTB FoW armour anyone?
/notsigned
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Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree.
Otherwise not. Since this would bring back many items to the market, and we need to take them out so the new ones have demand. |
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Originally Posted by jiggles
WTB FoW armour anyone?
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Also, why not add customization to shields and off-hands.
Shields get +5 armor and offhands get +3 energy?
Solas
/not signed its customised for a reason
maybe if it was only account wide that'd be ok.
triple posted>< deleted now though
maybe if it was only account wide that'd be ok.
triple posted>< deleted now though
Red Sand
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere As long as 'uncustomized' items must can be used ONLY by characters of the same account and MUST be customized again to be used, I could agree. |
The simple fix is to make customized equipment usable by all characters on the same account (which may not have been the intent of the initial poster).
This is an easier job for a programmer than to add an "un-customized but not tradable, re-customize to use" flag.
Since I suspect that customization prevents PvP equipment from being traded between accounts, a PvP only flag might have to be added to PvP equipment to prevent their migration to PvE.
This actually is a pretty neat and relatively simple programming problem to solve. I am pretty sure that each character created gets a unique ID number, unassociated with a character name and when you customize an item it flags that item usable by only the character with that number. This is probably what prevents you from customizing an item, putting it in storage, deleting and remaking the character, and then use the item on the new character.
To get past this, you need to flag the item to the unique account number, while having controls in place to prevent equipment from migrating from the create-a-PvP item system into PvE.
/buttonpress
"That was easy."
MithranArkanere
There is already a VERY easy way to prevent that.
1. Can't store flag. All PvP items would be tagged with that flag. So they cannot be put in storage.
2. Uncustomize option added ONLY to NPCs that are NOT in areas PvP characters can access. That excludes even Guild Halls.
It would be a nice idea that such places where only the last Town in each campaign, so you at least have to lay some game before being able to do so.
1. Can't store flag. All PvP items would be tagged with that flag. So they cannot be put in storage.
2. Uncustomize option added ONLY to NPCs that are NOT in areas PvP characters can access. That excludes even Guild Halls.
It would be a nice idea that such places where only the last Town in each campaign, so you at least have to lay some game before being able to do so.
Lykan
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I rarely customize anything. |
/notsigned
The only people this effects are power traders who might suddenly want to sell their uber leet shite, this serves no real purpose in game.
Molock
/not signed
We don't want an influx of weapon flooding the market. Prices are already low enough.
We don't want an influx of weapon flooding the market. Prices are already low enough.
Red Sand
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We don't want an influx of weapon flooding the market. Prices are already low enough. |
There's a bunch of people playing Prophecies who have never seen an Ecto wondering where those low prices are. But I digress.
HawkofStorms
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"100k plus 20 Ecto's for Uber Sword"
There's a bunch of people playing Prophecies who have never seen an Ecto wondering where those low prices are. But I digress. |
Name 10 swords that legiamately cost that much.
tick tick tick
And out of time.
There are only like 5. Emerald blades, eternals, obsidian edge, crystaline, tormented.
Everything else has plummeted in value due to overfarming. Two of those items are new and are may drop in value quickly enough (ie, like elemental and collosal scimatars).
Red Sand
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Originally posted by HawkOfStorms Name 10 swords that legiamately cost that much. tick tick tick And out of time. There are only like 5. |
There are no weapons worth 100k, only weapons that cost 100k. You only reinforce my point that there are items out there that people pay ungodly amounts of game gold for, just for the look.
Like driving a Lambo: nice car if you can afford it, but not very practical for grabbing groceries for a family of four. Once again, I digress.
How transferring a customized weapon affects the GW economy is a moot point. It's an insignificant side issue in a case where a person wants to pass a piece of gear that they obtained, whether through a purchase or a loot drop, from one character to another on their account.
The player found it or bought it, whatever, let them use it. It doesn't hurt me to let them keep the items that they decided to customize and lock into their account.
demo113
What about just adding an option to pay more but customize something to your account?
Ideas Guy
Hi, I am an ideas guy and I have 1 important idea which involves the customization of armor.Idea #1-->Identity Scroll. An Identity Scroll can be purchased from a Rare Scroll Trader for X amount of gold. It has 1 use. Using the Identity Scroll will allow you to change your characters name without having to recreate him or her. This would be a great help for others who have obsessive needs to spend endless hours on the character creation screen trying to think of the perfect name. By introducing Identity Scrolls into the game, players will spend more time enjoying the whole game and less time worrying if their characters name is alright. Moreover, if someone has crafted Obsidian Armor for a specific character and they realize that their name could be better, instead of recreating the character and losing their expensive Obsidian Armor, they could use an Identity Scroll which would not only change their name, but whom their armor is customized for as well. Lastly, some oblivious players may have offensive or inappropriate names that they are unaware of. This could also be fixed up quickly by the use of an Identity Scroll.
Khanduras
I'm with the others.. I agree with MithranArkanere's first post as well.
Tokar Terrius
/notsigned
Need to take more consideration before customizing.
Need to take more consideration before customizing.
ManiSan
Customization system is just retarded.
*LFG warrior with ded weapons*
/signed for +20%dmg on all weapons and no more BS.
*LFG warrior with ded weapons*
/signed for +20%dmg on all weapons and no more BS.
GaaaaaH
/signed if its only available to be used on your account
yum
Meh I customized everything I got 
There is no reason to pay a huge amount of $$ for a sword that is worse than a max crude sword customized.
That Whammo wielding an Eternal blade is just dead meat under the heel of my pvp char Well, he will get owned by my pve char anyway^^
There is no reason to pay a huge amount of $$ for a sword that is worse than a max crude sword customized.That Whammo wielding an Eternal blade is just dead meat under the heel of my pvp char
Well, he will get owned by my pve char anyway^^