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Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

16 Mar 2008 at 18:19 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by zway

lol this ain't worth that much.

Beetle juice = 2-5k
Everlasting beetle juice 1200-1500e

Candy corn tonic =100 -150g (20 times less than beetle juice tonic)
Everlasting candy tonic= i'd say 100-200ectos considering u can buy 10, 000 tonics for that much lol

I think his logic is pretty crappy, but he DOES bring up a good point. Why not spend the $$ on individual party animal items to max your title instead of getting an ultra rare piece of junk (no offense). However, I guess collectors and rich people might not see it that way.

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

16 Mar 2008 at 18:25 - 82

Lets slightly change a fairly common novelty item and mark it as super rare. Incredibly lame. Anet, you're moving away from the things the set you apart from other MMO's. Don't turn your game into yet another one where the people who are important or could afford to buy the extra perks are the ones that grind 5 hours a day.

Lynx Of Ithorian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

British Bulldogs [DOGS]

16 Mar 2008 at 18:34 - 83

slightly off comment , but have you noticed the lack of bids because this item is in the auction area ? - gives you a good idea of how many people on this board are full off shizzle . if this was in the high end board there would be 10 pages of people offering stacks of armbraces that they dont have to big up there peen. lollipop.

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

16 Mar 2008 at 18:38 - 84

hmm, nothing that interests me anyhow ..

candycorn man is ugly as hell ...
and rollerbettle is boring as hell...

candycorn has nothing, that makes it anyhow special, they even dance like female necros >.>

and rollerbeetle's dance is the most borign dance of all in GW...
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I personaly can't absolutely understand, why the hell people make such a hype about these tonics, only because they are everlasting, and rare, that they reach such insane prices for some boring and ugly, like those transformations into these stuff.

I would understand the hype about such items, when they would enable the player to transform into various really cool Monsters and creatures, like:

Saltspray Dragons
Armored Cave Spiders/Arachni
Fenrir
Margonite Paragons
Onis
Krait Devouss's/Arkanoss's

and and and...the game has so much cool creatures, which would be much nicer to transform into and that also outside of towns...

When such everlasting potions would exist, then I could really understand the hype about them

Pan Head

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/R

16 Mar 2008 at 20:01 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretchs

So my Q is, do these everlasting's give you pts toward your party animal title? if so, it really is auto title for that player as long as he keeps using it

To answer your question it does not count to any title.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

16 Mar 2008 at 20:05 - 86

Lucky fiend, someone's a rich mother RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOer now.

You'd think there'd be a way I could combine all my Creme Brulees into an everlasting one or something.

politicsxxox

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Me/N

16 Mar 2008 at 20:13 - 87

once again , way to go anet for sneaking something like that into that chest full of crap. how about something actually useful next time

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

16 Mar 2008 at 20:17 - 88

All you complainers are just jealous

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

16 Mar 2008 at 20:21 - 89

I've wanted an Everlasting Yuletide and Transmogrifier to drop as part of their events, but having it come from the Zchest is still like they don't even exist. Nobody in their right mind would pay what the everlastings would cost when they could go max the actual party animal title for considerably less. >.>

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

16 Mar 2008 at 22:43 - 90

Am I the only one who things this guy has no chance at selling this for 262 Mil?

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

16 Mar 2008 at 22:46 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

Am I the only one who things this guy has no chance at selling this for 262 Mil?

yes

/12chars

In all seriousness, it is the ONLY one so far. There are plenty of people out there who would like this, as it would grow their e-peen by about 6 inches. Only one = HUGE price. There are 28 (or so) Everlasting Rollerbeetle Tonics, and those go for ludicrous amounts of money. I can only imagine what the auction for this will look like.

Moral55

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

SNOW

E/Me

16 Mar 2008 at 22:56 - 92

Ya but the beetle tonics are cool and allow you to look like you overpriced
mini pet, this Etonic s just blah.

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

16 Mar 2008 at 23:15 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

wow. it's real.

i purposely put my name half-way covered by trade-box. harder to photoshop something like that. also, u can try to guess what title i'm wearing (it barely shows through).

It's ally of the kurzicks or ally of the luxons

Do I win a tonic for that?

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

17 Mar 2008 at 00:59 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

It's ally of the kurzicks or ally of the luxons

Do I win a tonic for that?

prolly kurzick i saw him leeching an hfff lol

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

17 Mar 2008 at 03:58 - 95

it would help to know when this was released into the game to find its rarity. If it was with the new weapons its pretty rare but if it was december that would make this extremely rare

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

Mo/

17 Mar 2008 at 05:27 - 96

Wow nice...too bad there aren't rare other items from this chest...stupid tonics. Grats though

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

17 Mar 2008 at 07:23 - 97

But... who HAS millions and hundreds of millions sitting around if they haven't bought gold from ebay?! And if they have... how incredibly lame O_o

I mean... hundreds of millions for tonic? GTFO

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

17 Mar 2008 at 13:56 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

But... who HAS millions and hundreds of millions sitting around if they haven't bought gold from ebay?!

Some of the top power traders and those that profited off of the duping scandal can easily have that much money.

But...all those that have the money without E-Baying are smart enough to realize that purchasing this item before the true drop rate/rarity is known is not an intelligent thing to do, as the price is likely to stabilize at a point much lower than what the sellers are demanding.

Lilith St Cyr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

17 Mar 2008 at 16:57 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Some of the top power traders and those that profited off of the duping scandal can easily have that much money.
.

What/when/how? I think i missed something here

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

17 Mar 2008 at 19:32 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

But... who HAS millions and hundreds of millions sitting around if they haven't bought gold from ebay?! And if they have... how incredibly lame O_o

I mean... hundreds of millions for tonic? GTFO

Ive talked with a few ppl over the weekend that have that kind of money. Their are ways to get that kind of money like selling spots into high end guilds or selling a high end guild. And no its not just any tonic, its a one of a kind item and the person who has it will be labeled as ultra rich. Its more of a status symbol then a toy.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Mar 2008 at 22:06 - 101

People don't understand that Anet doesn't need a physical update to turn items on/off. Just because it was added to the .dat on 12/6/07 doesn't mean its been able to drop that long.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

17 Mar 2008 at 23:13 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

People don't understand that Anet doesn't need a physical update to turn items on/off. Just because it was added to the .dat on 12/6/07 doesn't mean its been able to drop that long.

But the Everlasting Bettle Tonic HAS been able to drop for several months. And so far only 1 has been confirmed to drop from there.
It seems VERY likely that this item is going to be worth millions.

To those who think "this item isn't worth this much because vanity items are stupid" welcome to GW. Its rare, so it will be expensive. No item has any praticality in this game. If you are a super rich player with money to burn, there is nothing else to waste your cash on.

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 23:47 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

To those who think "this item isn't worth this much because vanity items are stupid" welcome to GW. Its rare, so it will be expensive.

Sir, you are incorrect.

My law of Guild Wars pricing indicates:

As ugliness and/or uselessness of item increases, the price also increases exponentially.

See:

Crystalline Sword
Saurian/Clockwork Scythe
Tormented Items
Minipets
Tonics

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

18 Mar 2008 at 00:00 - 104

Unlimited candycorns? Booooooring. >__>

But grats to the newly-rich person

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

18 Mar 2008 at 00:11 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

Unlimited candycorns? Booooooring. >__>

But grats to the newly-rich person

thanks

traded it to Everlasting Beatle and some ectos. Now beening a perma beatle ain't so bad

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

18 Mar 2008 at 07:55 - 106

There appears to be an everlasting yuletide tonic now

wraithe

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

N/Me

18 Mar 2008 at 08:35 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

No normal player will have 52000e. Only those that have exploited the game will get anywhere near that many.

yeah agreed on that, i play quite a bit and have had a lot of ectos but never that many.

also what would you do with all that wealth?
everything in game is easily obtainable with just a little bit of effort, especially this late in games life.

i believe GW money will not carry over to GW2. so virtual millionaire means zilch to most. IMHO

wraithe

Buzzer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Australia

18 Mar 2008 at 09:32 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Sir, you are incorrect.

My law of Guild Wars pricing indicates:

As ugliness and/or uselessness of item increases, the price also increases exponentially.

See:

Crystalline Sword
Saurian/Clockwork Scythe
Tormented Items
Minipets
Tonics

In which case the Charr Scepter is the most expensive thing ingame

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

18 Mar 2008 at 09:32 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by wraithe

i believe GW money will not carry over to GW2.

well it shouldnt, it's gonna be a new game anyways...

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

18 Mar 2008 at 09:35 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

well it shouldnt, it's gonna be a new game anyways...

oh good lord I hope not...

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

18 Mar 2008 at 09:41 - 111

why not?
So like a few players are gonna start the game full of money and shit, and others will be broken...
It's not gonna happen imo (cash transfer from gw1 to gw2), it would seriously imbalance the whole game (just imagine what was more difficult/fun, starting GW for the first time or with full storage of items/cash), so... not gonna happen :P

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

18 Mar 2008 at 09:49 - 112

there's an everlasting yuletide tonic in high end right now...

do they drop only from z-chest?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

18 Mar 2008 at 10:20 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steboy93

There appears to be an everlasting yuletide tonic now

Screenshot or it didn't happen

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

18 Mar 2008 at 10:29 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Screenshot or it didn't happen

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

18 Mar 2008 at 11:52 - 115

See scooby is spending those armbraces again. Not like he'll run out though

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

18 Mar 2008 at 13:41 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilith St Cyr

What/when/how? I think i missed something here

It happened several months back, when it was discovered that the auto-reconnect feature could be exploited to create copies of items. It's estimated that thousands of armbraces were copied, and many people were banned for it.

Those that weren't banned (or were smart enough to not conduct the duping yet get their hands on the copied goods) are some of the richest in GW today.

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

18 Mar 2008 at 14:28 - 117

flat out ridiculous

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

18 Mar 2008 at 17:04 - 118

That Particular one dropped out of the Chest of Woe. I know this cause I am the one who sold it to him

. Anyway how many have been seen so far. Is that still the only one?

As for the question above about the money, as I am not a merch type I dedicated the beetle I got (making the remaining indedicated one more valuable), and I will now fill my halls up and proabbaly get some more high ends pets to dedicate and resell with the rest.

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

18 Mar 2008 at 17:15 - 119

Ah nice..

more tonics.. I hope Everlasting Champange popper next..

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

18 Mar 2008 at 18:50 - 120

I'm waiting for my everlasting snowman summoner.