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Inger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Rt

17 Mar 2008 at 04:14 - 1

First of all this is not a QQ thread.

Basically today a couple of guildies and I were in the midst of a HM FoW clear. We were doing great having finished 7/11 quests including a clear of the burning forest (the hardest area in FoW IMO). Well were in the midst of heading to the tower of strength when we accidently way over aggroed some of the shadow patrols. Everything happened so quickly and suddenly all of us were dead.

None of us were really angry, the general feeling was just total surprise at first followed by pretty big feeling of disappointment. This would have been our first HM FoW clear and we were looking forward to potentially getting some of the new weapon skins from the end chest. We're not the most experienced PvE guild and had spent a good 2 hrs in FoW already leading up to our wipe.

After we got back to ToA, all of us were silent for about 5 mins and then just kinda said our goodbyes and logged off. We weren't angry or pissed off just disappointed and well, didn't feel like playing anymore.

Now I ask the rest of you, how do you react to these kinds of disappointment? WHat i mentioned above was just an example that just happened to me about 30 mins ago. Your stories could be just failing to kill Mallyx or just falling short of that HoH victory, I'm just wondering how you all react to these things. Do you brush it off and just pick yourself up again? or do you quit the game and throw a tantrum?

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

17 Mar 2008 at 04:22 - 2

OP, I know what you mean. I've had a few endgame/elite mission fails, usually after a brutal uphill struggle. It's a pretty big morale killer to get near the end of a long, difficult area and than realize that for one reason or another, you have to give up.

Usually I just do what you do. No anger, no depression or real sadness, just a kind of quiet disappointment followed by doing something else for a few days. TBH it makes it that much sweeter when you get what you want.

Edit: Oh, I see what you did there, Ryker.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Mar 2008 at 04:23 - 3

I guess I'm usually not too disappointed when something like that happens. I'd only be really upset if I'm strict on time, but I wouldn't play Guild Wars if that were so.

matsif

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Warriors of Factions [WOF]

E/Me

17 Mar 2008 at 04:27 - 4

was helping out a guildy today while he was testing out his smite build with another 600 who was testing. I just ran healing to help out. the 600 lost communication right before murakai, like in her room. was a total bummer.

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

17 Mar 2008 at 04:33 - 5

Anyho, back when I was still noob, I rolled a monk and logged into the old HoH.
Some totally random PuG picked me up, we somehow made it to Courtyard. I was ecstatic... holy shit, we were nearly there! I could just smell that sweet, sweet Crystalline

Yeah. We wiped in 30 seconds. Except me <3 I ran to the centre and proceeded to spam Heal Area on everyone.

We lost

Back at outpost, the usual round of 'omg u noobs suck' and we all buggered off.
Was a laugh.

Whatever happens, always laugh! It's better that way.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

17 Mar 2008 at 04:37 - 6

basically kid around and blame each other (We normally blame Knoll). Its not ever really a big deal we just diagnose what went wrong and get back at it next time, no sweat.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

17 Mar 2008 at 04:42 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

basically kid around and blame each other (We normally blame Knoll). Its not ever really a big deal we just diagnose what went wrong and get back at it next time, no sweat.

Exactly.
It's all for fun, not to sweat.
What's really an indicator of a n00b run, is when Rac demotes, promotes, demotes Knoll again, more than 2 times a night...then we know we sucked.

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

17 Mar 2008 at 04:46 - 8

well I don't lose at anything so idk how this feels

Lmao ok in all reality whenever I lose to noobs in Hb or get tanked I flip out and go outside and do something

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

17 Mar 2008 at 04:51 - 9

Haha, yeah. I've been in a few situations like that, like when my guild spends 3 hours doing a full HM DoA run and then get miserably wiped at the last moment by Mallyx. I generally don't make a big deal of it even though I'm frustrated and disappointed. If it's something quick (like a hard mission in my newb days) I'd just try again, or I log off and try again later for longer missions such as DoA. Besides, although winning feels great, the journey there is just as much fun! Or at least it should be

.

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

17 Mar 2008 at 04:52 - 10

Guild and I spent 3 hours in Citadel in Everquest 2. It's a raid instance.
Once we got to the end we found it was bugged and the boss encounter wasn't being flagged.
We were pretty bummed out and left one by one. Some people just walked around the instance and eventually left. A lot of work so easily went up in smoke. It's like spending 3 hours working hard on a document that gets erased.
It's a motivation killer.

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

17 Mar 2008 at 04:54 - 11

Thats what I say, when I play with a randomg PUG, and people run around like chickens and do strange things. Last night I played MONK in a forgeweight run, we did...so and so... It was slow and people died here and there, but we moved forward. I kept on screaming on everyone why they dont call, and just hit random targets and generally play like idiots. The guy responded: "its just a game" , Well DUH! I think everyone is aware of that it is a game, but you do invest time in it, and when you invest couple of hours in a Dungeon just to get wiped before someone do something stupid, it goes from being just a game to become a huge waste of time. .

So to all of you that say. "Its just a game" here is the reply: WE KNOW ITS A GAME! WE PLAY IT BECAUSE ITS A GAME! BUT DONT WASTE MY TIME!..

OP "Inger" you have my comforts, shit happens. It will feel better after a couple of hours.

PS. We did manage to kill forgeweight after some close wipes.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

17 Mar 2008 at 05:14 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

basically kid around and blame each other (We normally blame Knoll). Its not ever really a big deal we just diagnose what went wrong and get back at it next time, no sweat.

QFT. Then we get to see Racthoh rage about what went wrong and then not log on for a couple days while he stews. The rest of us just get over it and move on.

Kamara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ponie Hill, Lion's Arch International

Blinkie Kaulitz Armie

E/

17 Mar 2008 at 05:28 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inger

Now I ask the rest of you, how do you react to these kinds of disappointment?

Say "Dang... That sucked. Oh well. We'll go again some day

". Then shortly after re-plan, figure out what we did wrong and what to do to fix it. Then when people have time, get back to it. It could be a day, it could be a year.

I tend to only group with people for the fun, so don't really get too bummed-out if stuff goes tits-up. ^_^ I figure if you have fun and learn something that's what counts.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

17 Mar 2008 at 05:42 - 14

All entirely depends on what mood I'm in when it happens. Though honestly, my mood can greatly affect my playing ability, too. Earlier this week, for instance, my wife and I were planning to do Bogroot HM. We set up our skills/heroes, bought a few lockpicks, and headed out. I wasn't paying much attention, because I really didn't feel like playing for some reason, and accidentally overaggroed two groups of Raptors and one group of Angorodon. We wiped pretty quickly, and even though it was the first groups we ran into, I just blew up and exited the game pronto.

So, we tried it again a few days later, same builds and everything, and breezed through it all with no deaths (and no overaggroing). I also realized I was actually enjoying myself the whole time. Seems to be linked

Still, I have had instances where our team wiped and I was in a good mood. I find that I actually enjoy myself win or lose. It also prompts me to find out what went wrong, and just try again. If we win the next time through, it feels even sweeter than it would if we had won the first time.

I think it also matters if you're doing it for fun, or for accomplishment. If it's for fun, and you lose, you tend to have a "oh well" attitude. If it's for accomplishment, and you lose, well, it can be very frustrating. Especially if it's something you've done before, and had no problems, then suddenly your team wipes. It's kind of a "WTF?" moment.

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 05:56 - 15

Yea well since it's only fow...Meh..

but in addition to your post about havin 7 q's+HM on, you're not the only one to get upset/dissappointed about being wiped...I was on kodonur in NF doin the mission and mobs just came out of no-where and in a flash, party-dead. return to outpost.

*sigh.

Yea I gave it a week before playing again... Did it this time. =) just get the inspiration to get back up and doooo it again. >=)

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:10 - 16

For the OP. I know the feeling. But the thing about FOW and UW is to know when to run. That's why all of my guildies whenever we do FOW and UW all carry Rebirth.

its better to run than to lay to waiste 2 hrs + of work.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:15 - 17

I log out, go downstairs, open a beer and watch a movie.

TPike

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Pennsyltucky

The Imperial Gaurds Of Ascalon [TIGA]

E/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:37 - 18

I had a situation today that got me a little down.

Looked for a PUG for Attack the Gates or whatever in EotN. Read the wiki, just don't have the understanding/skills/heros/whatever to get'r done.

After about 15 mins (not long) we all get killed, while waiting to resurect first person quits.

As soon as we re-spawn I hit a clover & got 12% - mentioned it and everyone was like , wow , ty and it was all good.

After about another 10 mins it was obvious that myself and one other player were the only ones that consulted wiki and had any idea of what to do.

So we all die again.

Another quitter.

Players left still aren't listening, we all die again.

Now it's me & dude spawning in, gate has about 1/3 strenght left.

Then I realize it's me and the one hero monk someone brought, 6 people quit.

I gotta admit, left me feeling a little dissapointed and mad at myself for "wasting" the clover.

Meh, switched to my lvl11 Paragon and had some fun killing plants

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

17 Mar 2008 at 06:45 - 19

Heh...

3.5 hours FoW with balanced PUG. Mage died while we were in halfway through 10/11 quests.

Not to mention the several wipes in Urgoz, in that room close before last, with all the vampires.

Or clearing the deep, then being unable to kill Kanaxai.

You name it, I've been there.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:45 - 20

have been in the same situation (dang banshee)....hubby and I were doing clearing with our heroes....the first weekend we tried it the griffons died

and we said AWH MANNN....and logged off for a while....

a few weekends later and the dang banshee got itself killed....so we said AWH MANNNNNN! and figured if we had cleared it on our first (or this our second run) we probably would say FOW is just tooo easy and probably not go there again.

Now its more like a challenge to see if we can kill the stuff before the npcs get themselves nicked.

....glad we didnt do it on our first try looking back on it.
(hubby always complains the game is tooo easy...now he feels fow is a challenge again!)

Now we know to be much more careful (and micro manage the heroes when needed).....

Buddhaofwar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Flying Gophers

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:55 - 21

we had a balanced group going through Urgoz. took us about 2.5 hours to get to the big plant himself, and we had 3 people log off along the way. The battel starts, and suddenly, the EoE ranger forgets how the boss fight works... they cannot seem to cast EoE in the right place, and it keeps getting blown up. long story short, we went thru a 45 minute boss fight, and everyone rage-quit.

my reaction: I sat and stared blankly at the screen for a while, watching Urgoz laugh triumphantly. Then I left ans joined a Deep group. who needs that tree anyway? =P

dawnmist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Melbourne, Australia

Serpents Maw Esoteric Echelon

R/

17 Mar 2008 at 06:56 - 22

Worst ones for me was losing my first couple of survivor attempts.

First one had got a warrior up to about 300k, across from Factions to Prophesies, did the normal mode ascension fine, then attempted hard mode ascension (not realising there wasn't a second big xp boost for hm ascension) - and a few seconds later had a death.

Stared at the screen for a couple of minutes, then logged out for a few days. Couldn't get angry at anyone...I mean, it was a copy of myself that killed me!

Second try was with a Paragon. Had got through the Desert, did ascension in both normal and HM, and was doing the EoTN quests during a triple xp weekend. Had completed the Norn and was up to the last of the Char quests, when we ran into Rocktail.

Hadn't seen Rocktail previously...the life bond from my hero monk failed and PS had either just ended or been stripped (we'd been fighting nymphs when Rocktail ran in behind us) just as he launched a siege attack at me...and I went "WTF just happened?" - I had been hit for 2 shots of something like 260 damage each ... 520hp damage and an insta-dead paragon (from not-quite full health - was running around with ~560hp max)...

Again, swore a bit, and logged out for a few days. Felt extremely cross about insta-death uniques - but also realised that I really shouldn't have been taking my Para into an area I hadn't yet been with another char...even if it was a triple xp weekend.

Took about a week after that one before I could face logging in again

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 07:14 - 23

When stuff like this happens I do one of 2 things. Totally flip out and close GW, turn on some VERY loud music and play a game that's a little more violent. Or I remain completely quiet, close GW, and even though I'll be furious, I'll sit and try to figure out what went wrong if it's not already obvious to me.

Hard to decide which one happens more often.

The only time things like this happen is when I'm almost done vanquishing an area then realize I have some random quest that spawns a bajillion enemies that were clearly meant to be fought while in normal mode. Or when my party wipes because I was stupid and forgot to bring an interrupt for that level 30 Elementalist boss that spams Searing Flames on anything that moves.

The only other thing I can think of that causes that degree of frustration is when our guild splits up for the 1654621698th time and reforms 4 days later because someone took something personally that was meant as a joke.

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

17 Mar 2008 at 07:20 - 24

I had a period in my life when i got VERY angry. I didnt play GW then but other mmorpg and when things like this happend. I usualy thru my headset out the window. =) Then I called my friend who was on the teamspeak explained what happend, said I be back in a hour have to buy a new headset.

One time i throw out my modem, couple of times i didnt throw the headset out the window just smashed it against the floor and stomped on it.

Oyeah, I kicked my computer in once..

But im much more easy now, thank you.

Loco roco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Braveheart World Xi [any]

A/

17 Mar 2008 at 07:40 - 25

I just laugh if we get badly pwnt because its really funny to see 8 people die almost at the same time. I hardly ever get pissed of because its just a game and you play games for fun.

lordheinous

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

17 Mar 2008 at 08:05 - 26

I just started doing hm fow a couple weeks ago (with pugs), and while most runs go okay, occasionally one will go wrong, but I don't really stress about cause hey, they're pugs, what do you seriously expect from them? The one thing that really pissed me off though was this last week, we were doing fine through the beginning, but someone took tower of strength even though we said not to before hand. The tower mage followed us, and, of course, got stuck. Now, usually, I've been able to get the mage unstuck with a vampiric weapon, but this time, he kept on following me but then running back into a wall. We spent half an hour doing this before we all quit. At this point i was a little disappointed, but I thought "eh, well, bugs are bugs". Got back to toa and noticed there was a new build, so i quit and looked at the update page to find out that the new build fixed the tower mage. Now, while this certainly was a good fix, having it come right after my only failure due to said bug was rather frustrating to say the least

, so I just logged off for the day and drowned my sorrows in comedy.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

17 Mar 2008 at 08:23 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Moral

I had a period in my life when i got VERY angry. I didnt play GW then but other mmorpg and when things like this happend. I usualy thru my headset out the window. =) Then I called my friend who was on the teamspeak explained what happend, said I be back in a hour have to buy a new headset.

One time i throw out my modem, couple of times i didnt throw the headset out the window just smashed it against the floor and stomped on it.

Oyeah, I kicked my computer in once..

But im much more easy now, thank you.

Sweet baby Jesus?
Was this you ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

The last time I felt disappointed with this game wasn't when I lost my ass survivor while brawling at 800k yesterday (I just deleted the guy and made a new one) - it was a few days ago when i completed Cyndr (or whatever that guy is called). It is such INSANELY bad PvE design - that I just lost the will to continue. So I just quit the thing and let it cool down a bit. And I pretty much only finished the story because I needed to unlock HM for brawling.
I kinda have no desire to go through Gwen again ...

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

17 Mar 2008 at 09:14 - 28

It happened to us when we went for UW or FoW clears, but well bad things happen (including bad preparation!). The solution was simply to try again the next week-end! Time heals all wounds.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Mar 2008 at 09:38 - 29

It's been so long since I've failed in Guild Wars that I can't remember. I probably yelled obscenities at my screen and went back again for more until I got what I wanted. Failure in life is another story.

When I'm in a group in FoW that fails, it's because someone did something to annoy me. It could be something like map pinging or map penis drawings which result in my aggroing and intentionally destroying the run. If I'm in a group with cool people, fail from over aggro doesn't exist because as soon as it's about to happen, I've already headed in another direction, prepared to resurrect. I haven't encountered failure in Guild Wars for a long time, or the light of day outside my home.

A tactic which has finally stayed with me after many, many failures is, look at your compass, then, look at whatever else you need to. Repeat this every few seconds. This is similar to driving in heavy traffic, to keep people from ramming into you. Also, read up Guild Wiki.

I'm just sharing a couple of hints in hopes of helping the 1% of the Guild Wars community that doesn't annoy me that use this site.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Mar 2008 at 09:48 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Sweet baby Jesus?
Was this you ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

lmfao someone got me on cam before i quit drinking!
the dramatic animal links there are the best ever

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

17 Mar 2008 at 09:53 - 31

10 mins ago I crashed at the last tower at Riverside mission and the game dropped me out when trying to use their excuse for a reconnect function. What I did then was closing the game and starting to read Guru... lol

The idea with the beer sounds good too, though.

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

17 Mar 2008 at 10:30 - 32

Go shopping and buy myself something nice. Like the groceries and other fun stuff.

Sir Owns Alot EP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

[Town]

P/W

17 Mar 2008 at 11:28 - 33

While mine isn't nearly as bad, but it was in that pain-in-the-ass NF mission. We got all the way to shiro and the lich, killed the lich, and then a few of the idiots on my team decided that they would "distract" him. They failed. What a waste of an hour and a half.

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 12:23 - 34

Go in again with Ursan and clear it within an hour.

Then stop playing for six months.

That's what I did.

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

17 Mar 2008 at 12:33 - 35

It's silly to get mad at stuff like that, especially if you're in a group

I do get kinda frustrated at myself if I kow I've been stupid though, or if I'm just not doing something well enough andget the feeling I'm hitting my head against a brick wall. If that happens I'll log, or go do something I'm much better at in game.

A good way to avoid wipes in places like that (with no res shrines) is to make sure at least one of your party knows to run like hell, out of the agro, if you get swamped. That player should bring rebirth...lol Always helps.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

17 Mar 2008 at 12:39 - 36

You think that's disappointment? Well I was doing an FoW clear on my monk, HM. Ursan run and we were at 1 hour and 20 minutes. Well some guy went to get the griffons and it was the last quest we had to finish. One of the griffons ran to us after we took the quest so we had to bring him. Well someone aggroed a group of shadows, I didn't see what happened only seeing the griffon charging in to get these shadows. I put a heal on him but he was under 10% health left (I couldn't run fast enough to him) and we lost.

That's disappointment.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

17 Mar 2008 at 12:46 - 37

Whenever I'm disappointed, i log into TF2 and backstab random brits.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

17 Mar 2008 at 12:48 - 38

I tend to go do something else for a while. Frustration and anger make the game no fun to play, and temporarily make me more of an ass than usual.

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

17 Mar 2008 at 12:55 - 39

What did I do when the party was wiped because a twit guildie likes to see the giffons die when your at 10/11? I ate curry and left big skid marks in me white undies for the maid to clean which she wasnt so happy about, but hey thats married life for you.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

17 Mar 2008 at 13:16 - 40

Was doing UW with a team last week I think, and we got to to the reaper of the twin serpent mountains, then the ghost triggered and got blown up from all the traps. I was annoyed but I had fun and the team was great.

I also lost a leg survivor 100k from max due to a d/c. I was annoyed but just didnt play the char for a few months. Now my para's my fave char.

Sometimes I get angry if someone does something on purpose after we tell them not to, but meh really. Get much more angry in PS games. :P