It seems a good idea as there is conditional bonuses as +45 while in a stance or enchanded and so on....
Seems like paragons got left out a tiny bit
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Commander Kanen
Hey does anyone other than me want to see shield mods with +45 while under the affects of a chant or shout and -2 damage while under a chant or shout.
It seems a good idea as there is conditional bonuses as +45 while in a stance or enchanded and so on....
Seems like paragons got left out a tiny bit
It seems a good idea as there is conditional bonuses as +45 while in a stance or enchanded and so on....
Seems like paragons got left out a tiny bit
Kyrein
1 para can keep the whole party under a chant/shout indefinitely
overpowered
overpowered
Asha Rai
/signed
Would also like to see a shouts last 20% longer mod
Would also like to see a shouts last 20% longer mod
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
1 para can keep the whole party under a chant/shout indefinitely
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To go with this, introduce skills that remove shouts or chants from a foe.
Commander Kanen
Yeah its a nice idea, however there are skills which prevent the use of shouts/chants and a skill that deals damage to foes using shouts/chants so its not win win already....
Gift3d
Shouts/chants... no. Echo... possibly, but still not probable.
HawkofStorms
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And anyone using a shield with under stance/enchantment mods on it is probably using a build that keeps him/her stanced or enchanted indefinitely...aside from removal skills.
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Overpowered since chant/shouts have no dirrect counters to be removed. You'd think a.net would have learned with weapon spells that unstripable buffs are a bad idea. But no, they had to introduce the paragon and imbalance the game forever.
Esan
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You'd think a.net would have learned with weapon spells that unstripable buffs are a bad idea. But no, they had to introduce the paragon and imbalance the game forever.
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Kyrein
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And anyone using a shield with under stance/enchantment mods on it is probably using a build that keeps him/her stanced or enchanted indefinitely...aside from removal skills.
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didn't think so.......
a para can do that with shouts
Buddhaofwar
could they possibly set it up so you only receive the 45hp if it is your own shout/chant/echo?
that seems a bit more balanced to me.
/signed with modifications
that seems a bit more balanced to me.
/signed with modifications
Charr
Do you guys really think that -2 physical damage and +15 HP (usually they already have +30 HP on their shield) while under the efect of a shout will be so unbalancing to the game?
The main reason I want to see this type of inscription is beacuse Paragons don't have neither enchantments nor stances so if they want to fully use their shield they have to rely on their secondary profession.
The main reason I want to see this type of inscription is beacuse Paragons don't have neither enchantments nor stances so if they want to fully use their shield they have to rely on their secondary profession.
Esan
How about a +5 HP for every shout and chant (maximum of +45)? It's quite rare to find 9+ shouts active at once.
Kyrein
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How about a +5 HP for every shout and chant (maximum of +45)? It's quite rare to find 9+ shouts active at once.
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nobody else would use it
Esan
What? My suggestion is less drastic than the OP's. Read first, type second.
Kyrein
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What? My suggestion is less drastic than the OP's. Read first, type second.
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by your logic, it's less drastic, therefore it is good
Racthoh
It's too good. Your typical PvP gon would have Anthem of Flame and "Go For The Eyes!" on their bar. Any caster would never trigger Anthem of Flame, and only very rarely trigger "Go For The Eyes!" meaning you will always have the +45 health. Your typical PvE gon mashes the "Save Yourselves!" button or loads like 7 chants/shouts with a res so +45 health for them too.
RhanoctJocosa
racthoh speaks the truth
JR
Shouts and chants can't be removed, enchantments can. Stances are much more difficult to keep up non stop (without a gimped bar), and can also be removed.
What Racthoh said. End of thread.
What Racthoh said. End of thread.
D8tura
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Artorius.Maximus
Paragons can have full use of their shield, HP+30, Luck of the Draw (-5. 20% chance).
Until shouts/chants can be removed, /notsigned
Until shouts/chants can be removed, /notsigned
Oblivious Moose
sounds nifty! i like it!
now we need the war shields to be modded for paras!!!
hate that wars get mods for para type shields, but not other way :S
now we need the war shields to be modded for paras!!!
hate that wars get mods for para type shields, but not other way :S
Kanyatta
It's a good idea, and it may seem "only fair" to the naked eye, but if you have one Paragon on your team, and he's not retarded, it would make every other shield mod obsolete/worthless.
Basically, it seems fair, but, it's really IMBA.
Basically, it seems fair, but, it's really IMBA.
A11Eur0
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can one monk keep the WHOLE PARTY enchanted indefinitely, without worrying about removals?
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I don't think anyone is going to take a shout-modded shield just because there's a para in the group...he's going to take it because he's got FGJ! or another long-duration shout/multiples in his skill bar. I'd love to have a -2/+45 under shout shield for running (I am the Strongest!)...but I have a stance modded shield for that.
Kyrein
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Read: any character who can take advantage of those shouts using a shield modded for that buff has a build that is self-sufficient.
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