Ursanagaway (UNWay for short) is a highly modified Ursanway featuring a higher amount of damage primarily through the use of ranger spirits Quickening Zephyr and Brambles, but still maintains a high amount of defense through the Ursan characters' use of Avatar of Dwayna, which through the already spammable Ursan bar enhanced by Quickening Zephyr, will be nearly impervious to conventional pressure. A single monk built to withstand the rigors of Quickening Zephyr is all that is needed to clear up any concentrated damage or for use of protection spells against large sources of damage, such as in the Underworld.
On top of this, through the fact that the team will be able to keep a constant weakness on foes within earshot (and also increase the attack damage of allies), summoned Nagas work to further the pressure and increase damage potential, as well as add another heavy source of knockdown (on top of Zephyr'd Ursan Rage!), which aid both offensively and defensively.
All of this adds up to an extremely potent offense and defense, and ultimately a build ideal for those who enjoy a fast and furious playstyle in PvE.
UNway @gwShack: http://gwshack.us/dc06
UNway @PvXWiki: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team:Ursanagaway
Cheers.
Ursanagaway: Ursanway on Steroids
Drasu
Antithesis
What happens when Arcane Mimicry wears off? I'm assuming it doesn't matter if you're under Ursan Blessing.
Raiku
chances are that people aren't going to use this...
6 Dervish.... try getting that all together
6 Dervish.... try getting that all together
Reapers Prophecy
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
What happens when Arcane Mimicry wears off? I'm assuming it doesn't matter if you're under Ursan Blessing.
Thats right it doesn't matter when it waers off.
Onyx Blindbow
lol Why bother
just stick 6 ursans and 2 monks together and go and kill anything you want without all that hassle
just stick 6 ursans and 2 monks together and go and kill anything you want without all that hassle
angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
boogerboy72
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
QFT.
12chars is silly.
12chars is silly.
corey54321
the main reason people use ursan is because u dont have to deal with noobs not haveing the right skills to run a team build and their are as fast or faster than a full team build used to clear fow or uw imo also if i was to go as warrior they would have me tanking 24/7 and i hate that
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
It's just faster than many team builds and doesn't require much skill. Even if team builds are more effective, finding a PUG that can coordinate everything is next to impossible. Many players run ursan simply because they don't want to have to deal with such coordination for an option that is slightly worse but far easier to execute.
Tyla
@MasterSasori: LolPuG.
All I can say here is "ewwww".
All I can say here is "ewwww".
enter_the_zone
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
What, you mean that 5 man shite? Yeah, that takes any more skill than Ursan...not!
malevolence
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
Not true.
People use ursan for many reasons:
-Not wasting time in finding a good tank, nukers , necro etc etc.
-Their profession cannot run a certain place.
-The ursan skill and a lot of PvE only skills were made so other professions can join a team and deal a decent damage.
-Some people like to do some mission faster than wasting a "X" amount of time.
-Do not requiere too much coordination.
-Do not requiere a certain weapon , mods or shield.
-Opportunity of monks to kill foes in elite missions.
-Don't need to worry about what skills you have.
-There is always an ursan team
-Less stress
If you play ursan , it doesn´t mean someone is a noob.
Cheers.
Malevolence
People use ursan for many reasons:
-Not wasting time in finding a good tank, nukers , necro etc etc.
-Their profession cannot run a certain place.
-The ursan skill and a lot of PvE only skills were made so other professions can join a team and deal a decent damage.
-Some people like to do some mission faster than wasting a "X" amount of time.
-Do not requiere too much coordination.
-Do not requiere a certain weapon , mods or shield.
-Opportunity of monks to kill foes in elite missions.
-Don't need to worry about what skills you have.
-There is always an ursan team
-Less stress
If you play ursan , it doesn´t mean someone is a noob.
Cheers.
Malevolence
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
What happens when Arcane Mimicry wears off? I'm assuming it doesn't matter if you're under Ursan Blessing.
Nothin' matters when you've got UB on your bar.
Super Igor
BAD
omg wut 12 chars?
omg wut 12 chars?
Nightmares Hammer
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
QFT
12 chars.
+1
12 chars.
+1
Joe Fierce
i knew it was only a matter of time before this burnt down into an "URSAN BAD OH MAI GOTT!!" thread, seriously, the dude came here to post his build not start a debate.... so chill please and take it as it is, if you want an ursan fight do it somewhere other than this dudes farming build, i'm sure he'd appreciate that.
Fuzzy Taco
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
i knew it was only a matter of time before this burnt down into an "URSAN BAD OH MAI GOTT!!" thread, seriously, the dude came here to post his build not start a debate.... so chill please and take it as it is, if you want an ursan fight do it somewhere other than this dudes farming build, i'm sure he'd appreciate that.
qft, +1, 12 chars, whatever.
as far as the build goes, it looks powerful - the healing should help in areas like Shards where the Earth eles Eruption like crazy, and where there's a ton of obnoxious hexes like in FoW. my alliance regularly does ursan runs in FoW and plenty of other places, so i'd be happy to get a testing group together for some tough areas, if at all possible.
/endursanfight
as far as the build goes, it looks powerful - the healing should help in areas like Shards where the Earth eles Eruption like crazy, and where there's a ton of obnoxious hexes like in FoW. my alliance regularly does ursan runs in FoW and plenty of other places, so i'd be happy to get a testing group together for some tough areas, if at all possible.
/endursanfight
Draiyne Valure
To be honest, this looks like fun. People complain Ursan lacks thought, so someone comes up with a team build involving strategy and it gets flamed? It might be awkward to get the Dervs together, but I'd really like to try this at least once for fun.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
Many players run ursan simply because they don't want to have to deal with such coordination for an option that is far easier to execute.
The team build looks quite fun to run but I must agree with the above statement.
Pupu
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.
Sorry but what comes out your mouth is bull.
Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way.
Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way.
Zan Usi Quan
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Originally Posted by Pupu
Sorry but what comes out your mouth is bull.
Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way. or people being arsed completing quests the FUN way
Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way. or people being arsed completing quests the FUN way
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
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Originally Posted by Pupu
Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way.
Pupu, you actually confirm what he wrote. People are too incompetent to run good builds that can do HM zone at same speed or faster then with Avatar of Yogi Bear...
Mr. Undisclosed
Actually handy fact: Ursan DoA groups are faster then "balanced DoA groups. But back on the topic of the build please, every thread with ursan is the name doesn't need to be truned into an ursan win/lose thread.
novawhiz
Me and my friends have been doing similar stuff like that when runing ursan.
Sometimes we bring one Raven for blinding in melee heavy areas. odly
The SQ idea seems pretty solid. Removes the need for Essence of celerity as well. (or do they stack ?)
The beastmaster Ursan can be replaced with any other Ursan I think. I would consider an Imbagon with Ursan instead. Drop Focused for Ursan but don't use it. FGJ can be up almost all the time with SQ active. Ursan, SY, TNTF, FGJ, AR/Drunken Brawler + some utility Is Avatar of Dwayna still allways recharged if you drop out of Ursan so you can keep both active all the time ? I thought they fixed that and haven't tested it since.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
qft, +1, 12 chars, whatever.
as far as the build goes, it looks powerful - the healing should help in areas like Shards where the Earth eles Eruption like crazy, and where there's a ton of obnoxious hexes like in FoW. my alliance regularly does ursan runs in FoW and plenty of other places, so i'd be happy to get a testing group together for some tough areas, if at all possible. /endursanfight you're a little rude aren't you, i like how right as i'm being told to qft i'm told because i'm attempting to do the same thing you are at the end of your posting, note the added bold. FoxBat
QZ is insane with ursan, but you need to adjust the backline. The energy cost kills regular monk builds fast.
HC is a pretty good choice. The prot bar is more questionable.... at least find a better/cheaper elite. You might look at soul reaping N/Rts as well.
Eldin
Creative idea but Ursan is godly enough, I see no reason to expand upon it.
Say how do you pronoune "ursanagaway"? :P
Fuzzy Taco
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
you're a little rude aren't you, i like how right as i'm being told to qft i'm told because i'm attempting to do the same thing you are at the end of your posting, note the added bold.
qft, at least to me, means "Quoted for truth." i totally agree that you're right in trying to stop the inevitable ursan argument - sorry for any misunderstanding.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by Eldin
Creative idea but Ursan is godly enough, I see no reason to expand upon it.
Say how do you pronoune "ursanagaway"? :P Why gimp yourself if you can have something better?
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
qft, at least to me, means "Quoted for truth." i totally agree that you're right in trying to stop the inevitable ursan argument - sorry for any misunderstanding.
sorry m8, some forumers use it to say quit f***ing talking, maaaannnyyy apologies for this misunderstanding. and it's me fault as i jumped to conclusions.
Eldin
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Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi
Why gimp yourself if you can have something better?
As it's said above, most people who use Ursan are braindead - this is too complex for them.
Sheik90
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Originally Posted by Eldin
As it's said above, most people who use Ursan are braindead - this is too complex for them.
or they dont play any of the "Holy Trinity" classes, good luck finding group as as any other class since all the people are looking for are either Warrior, Elementalist or Monk.
Joe Fierce
all yall are doing is getting this guys thread closer and closer to being shut down for being a fight thread, it's like a ticking time bomb and yall keep on messing with the hour hands, please, ursan debate somewhere else other than this guys farming thread, as i've said before, i'm sure he'd appreciate it.
spirit of defeat
not that I don't like ursan's but I prefer a team which doesn't is mixed with
ursan x6 monk x2 makes thing's boring imo. 3 ursan's is enough for me, at least I'm never the ursan I don't see where this is a arm build..... pve wiki says general
Mr. Undisclosed
Ursanway in general is for farming, weather it be vanquisher, DoA, etc
High Moral
Dont want to play Ursan? But want a group?
play monk! over and out. odly
I did some testing with arcane mimicry and Dervish forms because I didn't know how the updates affected that.
You can copy Ursan with Arcan mimicry. You then activate Dervish form, follow with the mimicried Ursan and have both active at once. When you drop out of Ursan (totem of man/loss of energy) the Dervish Form will be recharged. The mimicried Ursan will no longer be on your skill bar, but arcane mimicry will be recharged so you can copy it again and start over. (leech signet, weapon switch to regain energy and you can mimicry->form->Ursan again.) This gives you near permanent Ursan + Dervish form. IF you have a person to copy Ursan from. Why the big IF ? Because you cannot copy Ursan blessing from a person who has Ursan active. Once they activate Ursan the Elite Skill "Ursan Blessing" is no longer on their skill bar and you cannot mimicry it anymore until they leave Ursan. (btw. In the past Mimicry would be stuck with a recharged Ursan Blessing, so you had only to use mimicry once and have both the Dervish form and Ursan on your skillbar until you zoned.) When doing this as a team build it could work if you had a person with Ursan on his skillbar who did not actually use it, so you can allway copy it from him. If you want to leave Ursan and reactivate Avatar+Ursan about every minute then having someone to copy it from is needed.
Guildmaster Cain
Too bad this is turning into a hate-ursanwaying thread. If people just could stick to the point..
Anyway gg on the teambuild, using Mimicry + Avatar I posted a while ago in my Ursanway Guide, somewhere hidden in the dung of the PvE builds section. The only problem is finding 6 or so Dervishes, nevertheless I see potential in this. The problem would be communication on which character to copy Ursan from, Maybe the Ranger or so, since he is obvious when laying down the spirits. edit: apparently, my guide has been deleted by myself somehow, although i cant remember doing so http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ursanway+guide Too bad the original is still on my broken laptop, which I hope to fix and restore the guide soon metalhodo
hm... just wondering why anyone didnt notice.. or its me who doesn`t understand it... the summon naga shaman says that only one asuran summon ca be active a time.. the way i see it, this applyes to the whole party... maybe i am wrong.. enlighten me anyway:P
if i am right... seing to cooldown and duration of the spell it would be enough only 1 with max asura rank... the rest would be a waste of slots.. anyway.. thats my opinion...
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