So, while I have a little bit of gold saved up, I'm going to try and work on getting skills for Ogden, and would appreciate some help.
My only PvE 20 is an Ele/Mes from Factions and I have every campaign except for Nightfall. Beaten Factions and in the process of EotN as we speak, just so you all know where I am. Only completed about 3 Proph missions.
1) Should he be Heal or Smite? (Alliance said Smite, but want to double check).
2) I need a simple, effective build if possible to achieve this.
Help is appreciated, thank you.
Yay for Nub Questions
Mithos
Guruman
#1 Heal.
#2 Word Of Healing, Dwayna's Kiss, Healing Breeze, Signet Of Rejuvenation, Patient Spirit, Spotless Mind/Soul (Both), Rebirth Or Renew Life
Attributes
As much as You Can In Divine Favor And Healing.
#2 Word Of Healing, Dwayna's Kiss, Healing Breeze, Signet Of Rejuvenation, Patient Spirit, Spotless Mind/Soul (Both), Rebirth Or Renew Life
Attributes
As much as You Can In Divine Favor And Healing.
xPIMPx
Leave..Your..Alliance..NOOOOOWWW
FlamingMetroid
Ogden should smite, he epic fails at healing
the other 2 monk henchmen are better at healing and prot
the other 2 monk henchmen are better at healing and prot
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Guruman
#2 Word Of Healing, Dwayna's Kiss, empty, empty, empty, empty, empty
Fix'd
Don't confuse heroes with bad skills, least of all Healing Breeze (and rez
)
Seriously - for a monk hero, give them WoH and Kiss to heal, maybe hex and condition removals, then fill the rest up with prot prayers. You can always disable them and force-cast Aegis if needed.
Don't confuse heroes with bad skills, least of all Healing Breeze (and rez
)Seriously - for a monk hero, give them WoH and Kiss to heal, maybe hex and condition removals, then fill the rest up with prot prayers. You can always disable them and force-cast Aegis if needed.
Mithos
Alrighty, I have everything except Dwanya's Kiss (About to go find it since I don't have much unlocked in Proph) and the Signet, which I cannot find on Wiki.
Not to sound rude, but did you misspell it by chance?
Thank you for the help.
Not to sound rude, but did you misspell it by chance?
Thank you for the help.
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Fix'd
Don't confuse heroes with bad skills, least of all Healing Breeze (and rez)
Seriously - for a monk hero, give them WoH and Kiss to heal, maybe hex and condition removals, then fill the rest up with prot prayers. You can always disable them and force-cast Aegis if needed. signet is fine imo
But still qft, hybrid is the way to go.
Don't confuse heroes with bad skills, least of all Healing Breeze (and rez
)Seriously - for a monk hero, give them WoH and Kiss to heal, maybe hex and condition removals, then fill the rest up with prot prayers. You can always disable them and force-cast Aegis if needed. signet is fine imo
But still qft, hybrid is the way to go.
Mithos
Bawww, just spent like 4k on skills.
Do I honestly have to re-do this build? ><
Do I honestly have to re-do this build? ><
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
But AI is stupid - it will cast the weak-ass signet on a dude that ought to be biting on a WoH before he bites the dust.
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by Mithos
Bawww, just spent like 4k on skills.
Do I honestly have to re-do this build? >< If it's heros alone, u might want to use balth fac to buy the skills instead of using money. But I wouldn't waste the balth factions - with 5k you can get a zaishen key and sell it for 2.5k.
Do I honestly have to re-do this build? >< If it's heros alone, u might want to use balth fac to buy the skills instead of using money. But I wouldn't waste the balth factions - with 5k you can get a zaishen key and sell it for 2.5k.
Mithos
Should I keep the first build replied or look for a different way of speccing?
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Mithos
Should I keep the first build replied or look for a different way of speccing?
Word of Healing / Dwayna's Kiss / Cure Hex / Dismiss Condition / Aegis / Protective Spirit / Shield of Absorption / Guardian
12+1+1 Heal
10+1 Prot
8+1 Divine
Is my current Ogden, IIRC. Except everything apart from Word, Kiss and Cure Hex end up disabled a lot of the time, I force cast Aegis and bind Prot Spirit to a key so i can use it myself.
Really though - you might not end up using Monk heroes in the end; other classes make better heroes for your limited slots.
12+1+1 Heal
10+1 Prot
8+1 Divine
Is my current Ogden, IIRC. Except everything apart from Word, Kiss and Cure Hex end up disabled a lot of the time, I force cast Aegis and bind Prot Spirit to a key so i can use it myself.
Really though - you might not end up using Monk heroes in the end; other classes make better heroes for your limited slots.
Mithos
Ah. Well, all I have Hero wise is Ogden, Vekk, Gwen and Livia. I use Livia as an MM and that's it so far. Should I use one of them and/or not use Ogden at all? =X
FlamingMetroid
I usually use hero henchies, they work just as well as heroes
Age
I always find the heros are better at one thing or another not two of them.This is being healing or protection.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Mithos
Ah. Well, all I have Hero wise is Ogden, Vekk, Gwen and Livia. I use Livia as an MM and that's it so far. Should I use one of them and/or not use Ogden at all? =X
I set Livia up as a N/Rt Restoration healer.
Never touched Ogden again.
Never touched Ogden again.
High Moral
my way or the hemmingway! no.. SABWAY all the way
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I set Livia up as a N/Rt Restoration healer.
Never touched Ogden again. Why were you ever touching Ogden?
Never touched Ogden again. Why were you ever touching Ogden?
Luminarus
Ogden only ever saw use for me as the smiter in 600/smiting...
Stupid Dwarf DUNKORO FTW if you must use a monk hero, which i dont.
As for builds for them to use... no complex spells, and only 10e spells to bring are prot spirit and aegis... rest get wasted by AI
Stupid Dwarf DUNKORO FTW if you must use a monk hero, which i dont.
As for builds for them to use... no complex spells, and only 10e spells to bring are prot spirit and aegis... rest get wasted by AI
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Why were you ever touching Ogden?
Well, we'd had one too many Aged Dwarven Ales and there was a bet and...
look, I promised I'd never speak of this again, ok?
look, I promised I'd never speak of this again, ok?
Thierry2
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I set Livia up as a N/Rt Restoration healer.
Never touched Ogden again. `
Same here :P
Yay for N/Rt Healers.
Never touched Ogden again. `
Same here :P
Yay for N/Rt Healers.
Jaigoda
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
As for builds for them to use... no complex spells, and only 10e spells to bring are prot spirit and aegis... rest get wasted by AI
No, Prot Spirit is a baed skill for heroes/henchies; they spam it like it's free, and with a recharge of 4 seconds... No, you're better off with 5e prots that are hard to screw up with. Or, just bring hench monks and use your hero slots for something useful
Burst Cancel
You put prots on heroes and ***disable them***; bind them to keys or click-micro them. We've gone over this in other threads before.
You'll get more heroes shortly (Jora is always a good time). Without Nightfall though, you're lacking not only more heroes but also some of the more powerful skills for them to use (Jagged Bones, Searing Flames, etc.).
You'll get more heroes shortly (Jora is always a good time). Without Nightfall though, you're lacking not only more heroes but also some of the more powerful skills for them to use (Jagged Bones, Searing Flames, etc.).
Luminarus
Aegis they cant spam (30 second recharge), but yeah, micro prot if you have it.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I set Livia up as a N/Rt Restoration healer.
Never touched Ogden again. I set mine up as a ss/barbs/putrid explosion necro paired w/ 2 paragons and never touched any hero monks since
Never touched Ogden again. I set mine up as a ss/barbs/putrid explosion necro paired w/ 2 paragons and never touched any hero monks since
xDusT II
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Originally Posted by Yichi
I set mine up as a ss/barbs/putrid explosion necro paired w/ 2 paragons and never touched any hero monks since
That's pretty much exactly what I run with, Foul Feast and Plague Sending with the Paragon's cracked armour also saves me a spot on Weaken Armour.
That's pretty much exactly what I run with, Foul Feast and Plague Sending with the Paragon's cracked armour also saves me a spot on Weaken Armour.
biohazardlord
As stormlord alex said the best healer would be N/Rt livia beacause of the soul reaping attributes she will always gain great amount of energy, so stick to stormlords idea 