Heroes stay in party if player DC's

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Well, I got to the end of level 2 Kathandrax HM tonight with 4 heroes, 4 players...the one player with 3 heroes, including two healers, disconnected and didn't get back. End of run, because when you zone to the next level, the heroes disappear too. I'd like it if the heroes stayed in the party even if you zone through instances, to avoid long drawn out failures like this.

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

Agreed. Henchies do, so why penalize other players for letting one dude use his heroes?

/signed

pipo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

the fire figters

P/

i agree, had it a lot of times, and you really get frustrated because of it

/signed

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

/signed.

of course they could just let us have 7heroes as well.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

If you get DC or map out of a zone heroes stay with the party you were in. I use this little trick to lend my heroes to guild and alliance members all the time.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Wont happen, it's just begging to be exploited.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

I'll sign this. It's really only an issue in dungeons which make up chained instances.

Your heroes do remain with the party as long as you remain in the same map. When you zone, you lose them. It would be nice if they remained until you warp back into a town. Ditto for capped skills!

Numa, explain how this could be exploited? We already have the ability to loan heroes to friends in large maps like UW and FOW.

Artorius.Maximus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rising Rebellion

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miska Bow
If you get DC or map out of a zone heroes stay with the party you were in. I use this little trick to lend my heroes to guild and alliance members all the time.
I do this as well, but I too have been hit by the same problem as OP (same dungeon even, but in NM). Finished clearing the level with the heroes from my partner (which included the monks). On zoning to the next level (boss level) I had no monks with me as they were with my partner who had DCed.

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

/notsigned

If this happens then people could get a player on a noob level mission or even a high level mission and "use" his npcs. Meaning the player could join the mission/explorable area and then leave and you would keep his heroes, giving you an easier way to do the mission.

Hikan Trilear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exterminate all
/notsigned

If this happens then people could get a player on a noob level mission or even a high level mission and "use" his npcs. Meaning the player could join the mission/explorable area and then leave and you would keep his heroes, giving you an easier way to do the mission.
You can already do this, the only problem is dungeons...

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I can't think of why this wouldn't already be in place.

As for the exploit reason, I'd say that it's about time we got access to seven heroes anyways.

/signed

Velise_Snowtorm

Velise_Snowtorm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Forever Knights

/signed

I've had to forfeit dungeons before when someone D/C'd and never returned. It really sucks to lose the time and effort you put into it when you can't complete it because of someone's net connection issues.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

What a great idea now I can start a game using 2 accounts and if one of my characters accidentally leaves the game,I can continue with 1 character and 7 heroes.

Oh darn now I have said it I guess arenanet will not make that change, drat me and my big mouth.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

I really don't see why not. I mean honestly, I can't see how this would be exploited, except it might be weird to code, because, what if it's You + 3 Heroes + 4 Henchmen and you leave? Would your h/h's be stuck in that one instance forever? I'm sure they could code around it, and I'm really no programmer or anything, but maybe there's something in it that would keep the instance up forever and waste a lot of server space? I don't know, just throwing ideas out there, because it seems so obvious, that there must be a reason why they haven't done it?

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gremlin
What a great idea now I can start a game using 2 accounts and if one of my characters accidentally leaves the game,I can continue with 1 character and 7 heroes.
Six heroes, but yeah. That's how it can be exploited. I've been trying to do UW, for instance, and I simply can't do Four Horsemen with just three heroes. With SIX heroes it'd be a cakewalk.

Hell, I'd buy an extra account in a heartbeat just to get to use six heroes.

Whether that is a problem or not is another matter, I would certainly like to have six or seven heroes, but I don't think ANet wants this. In fact, it seems to me they're increasingly trying to force people to PUG rather than H/H, and this would be the exact opposite.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

/signed
This has happened to me on various quests and it slightly irritates me.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Six heroes, but yeah. That's how it can be exploited. I've been trying to do UW, for instance, and I simply can't do Four Horsemen with just three heroes. With SIX heroes it'd be a cakewalk.

Hell, I'd buy an extra account in a heartbeat just to get to use six heroes.
You can do that right now - what's stopping you? There's no zoning once you're in UW or FoW. This suggestion is areas like multi-level dungeons. Hell you could even use this for Slaver's and DoA as each dungeon/area is only one level, but you can't in any other dungeon, despite them being easier and non-elite. With 2 more accounts, you could even do Urgoz and the Deep with 9 heroes.

Hell, knowing all that, I'm seeing the hero limit as just a pointless feature.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

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Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Order Of The Ghost Dragons [mist]

E/

Willing to Loan My 1337 Heroes! 5K

load instance - force DC
Back in outpost 30 seconds later

Willing to Loan My 1337 Heroes! 5K

/notsigned

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Six heroes, but yeah. That's how it can be exploited. I've been trying to do UW, for instance, and I simply can't do Four Horsemen with just three heroes. With SIX heroes it'd be a cakewalk.

You can do this. Sorry, but that's not a valid reason to not sign. I've gone into both UW and FOW before with 6 heroes. I've cleared FOW with them too, but haven't been able to do UW. I'd love to know the trick to finishing the 4 horseman with 6 heroes.

There's no need to buy a 2nd account for this either. (Unless you truly have no friends, but I doubt that). Just ask a reliable guildmate that you know has decent heroes to go with you and he can map out a minute later.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Its funny how people ignorant of some feature assume it would be abused to hell while it is already in the game.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Dungeons shuld have different rules when zoning:
- Keep bounties.
- Keep henchmen and heroes when someone leaves.
- Keep Dwarves revealed in previous areas of the same dungeon.
- Keep bounty bonuses.

They are supposed to be a chain of instances becoming the same instance.
There is even a map that consist in almost empy place with 5 hidden Ghost dwarves.

Ok, kill 6 monsters, use the Light, 5 spots. All dwarves. Haha. Get them to lose them. Not funny. Why are they there, then?

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

/signedd....

Stella/Shin

Stella/Shin

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

London, UK

Mo/

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it might start off something where people have amazing heroes that they spend time on modding up and have runes up prestige armor and getting people to pay them for their usage for one run or something and that person can just dc and sell again and again, so unlike running people to places or helping with missions, this can do 2 or more at a time and they can run the same heroes all the time which would accumulate loads of money and spoil the game completely ... i don't usually go against things that might make money but this way would be ridiculous.