Here is the build I currently have Norgu using & he NEVER seems to use Backfire. Even against elementalists he uses empathy instead:
[skill]Power Block[/skill][skill]cry of frustration[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]power drain[/skill][skill]backfire[/skill][skill]empathy[/skill][skill]leech signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Domination Magic - 16
Inspiration Magic - 12
Fast Casting - 3
Thanks.
Why Does Norgu NEVER Use Backfire?
whufc89
Arkantos
AI is stupid, nothing else to really say.
Covah
Hexes are hexes to heroes. Same with interupts. They don't know what they do.
Shuuda
Because Norgu is a half decent Mesmer that knows Backfire is at it's core, lame. Funny how the games "Stupid" AI is often smarter than many players.
Velise_Snowtorm
I've never given my Norgu Backfire, never saw a reason since bringing Backfire on a bar filled with interrupts is rather counterproductive.
I'd drop it and bring something else.
I'd drop it and bring something else.
whufc89
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Originally Posted by Velise_Snowtorm
I've never given my Norgu Backfire, never saw a reason since bringing Backfire on a bar filled with interrupts is rather counterproductive.
I'd drop it and bring something else. It's just INCASE a spell manages to get cast really. I'm thinking of changing to a ranger interrupter instead of a mesmer anyway.
I'd drop it and bring something else. It's just INCASE a spell manages to get cast really. I'm thinking of changing to a ranger interrupter instead of a mesmer anyway.
whufc89
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
Because Norgu is a half decent Mesmer that knows Backfire is at it's core, lame. Funny how the games "Stupid" AI is often smarter than many players.
Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by whufc89
Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.
You get hurt that much by Backfire........
Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs.
Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs.
whufc89
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
You get hurt that much by Backfire........
Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs. Oh noez, I'm a noob and ur pr0. Grats.
As an ele at 60 AL & getting hit by a backfire from a level 28 enemy yes it's pretty damaging & by devastating I didn't just mean the damage, I meant it leaves you unable to cast for a while aswell.
And you still didn't explain why it's "lame".
Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs. Oh noez, I'm a noob and ur pr0. Grats.
As an ele at 60 AL & getting hit by a backfire from a level 28 enemy yes it's pretty damaging & by devastating I didn't just mean the damage, I meant it leaves you unable to cast for a while aswell.
And you still didn't explain why it's "lame".
CandyPrince
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Originally Posted by whufc89
Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.
Lol you mean you just don't stop casting? That would prevent the damage. Forcing your hero monk etc to remove the hex would be fairly easy. Back fire is lame!
whufc89
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Originally Posted by CandyPrince
Lol you mean you just don't stop casting? That would prevent the damage. Forcing your hero monk etc to remove the hex would be fairly easy. Back fire is lame!
But why? Nobody is explaining WHY it's lame. Fair enough, you're all probably right but a reason would be nice that's all. I'm not flaming anyone or disagreeing I'd just like to know 
Toutatis
The hero AI doesn't think to cast Backfire straightaway. Heroes seem to be programmed to use Backfire as a shutdown measure - an AI enemy will never try to cast through Backfire if the hex damage would be fatal.
So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness.
So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness.
whufc89
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Originally Posted by Toutatis
The hero AI doesn't think to cast Backfire straightaway. Heroes seem to be programmed to use Backfire as a shutdown measure - an AI enemy will never try to cast through Backfire if the hex damage would be fatal.
So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness. Thank you very much.
So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness. Thank you very much.
mrmango
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Originally Posted by whufc89
But why? Nobody is explaining WHY it's lame. Fair enough, you're all probably right but a reason would be nice that's all. I'm not flaming anyone or disagreeing I'd just like to know
It is a 3 second cast. That's crappy. 15 energy, that's crappy. It deals a lot of damage, but who would honestly cast a lot of spells when they're hexed with it? Just wait for the hex removal, which good monks deal with quickly. It's just hard to use and actually provide a lot of pressure. Plus in a build with interupts, it's counter-productive
It is a 3 second cast. That's crappy. 15 energy, that's crappy. It deals a lot of damage, but who would honestly cast a lot of spells when they're hexed with it? Just wait for the hex removal, which good monks deal with quickly. It's just hard to use and actually provide a lot of pressure. Plus in a build with interupts, it's counter-productive