What to use Arcane Mimicry with?

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

I want to compile a list of elite skills that are useful when copied through Arcane Mimicry.

For 20 seconds, Arcane Mimicry becomes the non-Form Elite skill from target other ally.

This spell has 15e and 60 seconds recharge, which makes it hard to use for most elite skills.

Some elite skills that I have in mind, that should work with Arcane Mimicry are:

1) The 3 PvE elite blessings
2) [skill]Life Barrier[/skill]
3) [skill]Contagion[/skill]
4) [skill]Mirror of Ice[/skill]
5) [skill]Elemental Attunement[/skill] (added)
6) [skill]Aura of the Lich[/skill] (added)
7) [skill]Healer's Covenant[/skill] (added)
8) [skill]Healer's Boon[/skill] (added)
9) [skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill] (added)

Trevor The Wave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

This Is Ukraine [UA]

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SF, Arcane Echo SF, Arcane Mimicry Ele Attunement

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor The Wave
SF, Arcane Echo SF, Arcane Mimicry Ele Attunement Good example.

Elemental Attunement is not a maintained enchantment, but it is a long lasting enchantment at level 16 energy storage it lasts 57 seconds (52s at level 13) which is close to Arcane Mimicry recharge time of 60 seconds.

This means you can almost mimic it immediately after it ends.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

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[skill]Aura of the Lich[/skill]
[skill]Healer's Covenant[/skill]
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill]
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill]

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill] Not so sure about Savannah Heat. It is not an enchantment. It is a great spell but you can only use it ONCE per arcane mimicry, since its recharge is 25 seconds, arcane mimicry would stop being SH after 20 seconds, then wait for another 40 seconds to be in recharge cycle.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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umm for when

cause in RA i have lots of fuin with all kinds of spells

ride the lightning
WoH
LIfe Barriar
Healers Boon
Pretty much any elite works well if you ask me

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Best with healers covenant or healers boon on a WoH monk.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
umm for when

cause in RA i have lots of fuin with all kinds of spells

ride the lightning
WoH
LIfe Barriar
Healers Boon
Pretty much any elite works well if you ask me Keep in mind that AM would only keep the copied elite skill for 20 seconds so you can WoH for maybe a max of 5 times if you spam it like crazy before it expires.

Ride the lightning is alittle energy intensive and you can cast for maybe a max of 3 times before AM releases it after 20 seconds, and for practical purposes, it is more of a 1 or 2 cast per mimic skill.

Knowing that the recharge of AM is awfully long 60 seconds (it holds the skill for 20s then go through a 40s recharge), and it costs 15 energy to copy a skill, would it be worth it to copy a skill whose effects last for such a short time?

Life Barrier, and Healers Boon have already been included. These are enchantment spells whose effect would stay around for more than 20 seconds even after AM has released the skill.

Life Barrier is a maintained enchantment and would stay around until you manually release it or it gets removed through another skill.

Healers Boon at level 16 lasts for as long as 58 seconds, which is almost as long as the full recharge of AM. This means when Healers Boon expire, you can cast AM again to copy it over and renew it.

Luminarus

Luminarus

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Any "good" elite with a duration of 60-80 seconds

(Remember, AM starts recharging AFTER the skill disappears so its the recharge + the time the new skill is on your bar.)

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus
Any "good" elite with a duration of 60-80 seconds

(Remember, AM starts recharging AFTER the skill disappears so its the recharge + the time the new skill is on your bar.) That's right so a "good" elite with an effect that lasts, AT LEAST, between 60 to 80 seconds or more would be appropriate.

Luminarus

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It was more in relation to you're post about elemental attunement.

Its duration of 57 seconds (52 at 13) is near the recharge of AM... however unles you waited the full 18 seconds before casting e-attune you would still have 20+ seconds of no e-attune which isnt so great as previously suggested (still good though).

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus
It was more in relation to you're post about elemental attunement.

Its duration of 57 seconds (52 at 13) is near the recharge of AM... however unles you waited the full 18 seconds before casting e-attune you would still have 20+ seconds of no e-attune which isnt so great as previously suggested (still good though). 20 seconds is still within acceptable wait time. Besides, if you time it right you can simply recast the last e-attune before it recharges so it is not a big deal IMO.

Sir Pandra Pierva

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
A good counter argument but too big to quote keep in mind i use it for RA mostly when matches are too short for the things elite to really die off. But thats my take on it. I just find its funny to duplicate things quickly and use em to turn the edge of momentum to your favor and then finish it.

weretoad

weretoad

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

league of the elite

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personally i don't like minicry. it normal tends to be something i don't want your use, useless i set it up right.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
keep in mind i use it for RA mostly when matches are too short for the things elite to really die off. But thats my take on it. I just find its funny to duplicate things quickly and use em to turn the edge of momentum to your favor and then finish it. RA is not exactly the kind of place to use arcane mimicry. You dont know what you are getting much less having the attribute point for it.

Almighty Zi

Almighty Zi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Cheltenham, England

Servants Of Fortuna Victrix

We ran 4 Me/W with Illusionary Weaponary, 100 Blades and Arcane Mimicry in TA once just for fun.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Almighty Zi
We ran 4 Me/W with Illusionary Weaponary, 100 Blades and Arcane Mimicry in TA once just for fun. 20 seconds if you mimic hundred blades, 30 seconds for IW. Arcane Mimicry has a long.....recharge but I am sure it was fun.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Hmmm...

[skill]arcane mimicry[/skill][skill]signet of illusions[/skill] then [skill]searing flames[/skill]

Quick recharge time at lvl 16.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick Me
Hmmm...

[skill]arcane mimicry[/skill][skill]signet of illusions[/skill] then [skill]searing flames[/skill]

Quick recharge time at lvl 16. [skill]arcane mimicry[/skill][skill]signet of illusions[/skill] then Any spell goes here

I use it as well with sig of illusion

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

[skill]mind blast[/skill]

And take SoI -- "Ohai, i can has infinite emange?"

Fear And Horror

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Heroes Ascent

German Trade Elite [ ]

Mo/

u can use it for ursan too.

u have 2ppl skilled

ursan
ethersignet
arcane mimicry

when nrg is gettin low - both use totem of man

then get some energy with ethersignet, select other ppl with the same build and use arcane mimicry - so u get ur blessing again very fast.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Healer's Boon isn't an enchantment anymore so it isn't worth it unless you are a monk primary... In which case take it so you can use HB with WoH.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Healer's Boon isn't an enchantment anymore so it isn't worth it unless you are a monk primary... In which case take it so you can use HB with WoH. It is still an enchantment:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Healer%27s_Boon

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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I was wonderng about that.

also if i am running mimicry then i run soi

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

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Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
I was wonderng about that.

also if i am running mimicry then i run soi Yes, that is possible. SoI would work with spells from Divine Favor and other primary attributes as well.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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exactly,
I run it with a theif build using soi and its alwas funny to at one point be nuking with met shower and then turn around and become a prot monk and then a bonder a SSer anti melee.
with soi mes are allowed to cause untold amounts of chaos.......cept when the allies on your team are too stupid to even know how to kill something you got a problem.
but arcane mimicry allows me to tell what my aliies are using and what to expect from them. if a warrior is using woh i know he is going to suck. Same goes for monks with searing flames. also it allows me to double up and support the monk if he is getting wailed on and i get his woh I can now heal him with it

kellen of tavadon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Cheyenne, Wyoming

Ashes of Humanity [ASH]

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I know its about Arcane Mimicry, but instead of cloning an allies elite, I like to clone my own with Arcane Echo

Arcane Echo + Energy Surge + Energy Surge (echoed copy) + Energy Burn + Energy Tap + Ether Feast.

That way i get to do around 80ish damage per energy surge cast and the same, roughly with energy burn. But the best part (in my humble opinion) with my attributes as currently set- the combo knocks out 29 or so energy in around 4 seconds. Faster with a higher fast cast attribute. Monks really hate that.

But it would make sense to cast (at least the only way I see it working out) Arcane Mimicry in order to clone an allies elite if you could use the attribute from which that elite is tied. So, its a kind of goofy spell and needs to have a bit more thought put into it. I would suggest using it in conjunction with signet of illusions if you were going to go for punch, i.e. SH or Shockwave or Unsteady Ground.
With other spells (defensive ones) its good to use sig of illusions as well- otherwise they are worthless without the proper attribute line for the skill. Think SpellBreaker, Elemental Attunement, Mark of Protection and the like.

spirit of defeat

spirit of defeat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Holland

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it's worthless with [skill=text]spirit's strength[/skill], you need a weapon spell to back it up. so then yous second prof Must be RT and you need a weapon spell, and then you attack using nothing but pve skills and the default attack.

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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could you get a hero tu ursan with tis skill?

has anyone tried?

edit: i just did and my hero couldnt gain it

Laughing Bat

Laughing Bat

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[HoNk]

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I usually use arcane echo and then mimic my ele's Savannah Heat along with my necro's Flesh Golem(or whatever else is useful at the time.) Add arcane thievery, arcane larceny and smooth criminal for random fun lol.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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[skill]word of healing[/skill] + [skill]arcane mimicry[/skill][skill]healer's boon[/skill] = my little pwny

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spirit of defeat
it's worthless with [skill=text]spirit's strength[/skill], you need a weapon spell to back it up. so then yous second prof Must be RT and you need a weapon spell, and then you attack using nothing but pve skills and the default attack. in PVE its useless but it is funny wanding people to death on a mes who just took a weapon spell and Spirit strength from an ally.



nothing like people screaming hacker at you for using all kinds of interesting things while hitting for 80 dmg per wand attack

spirit of defeat

spirit of defeat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Holland

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
in PVE its useless but it is funny wanding people to death on a mes who just took a weapon spell and Spirit strength from an ally.

nothing like people screaming hacker at you for using all kinds of interesting things while hitting for 80 dmg per wand attack maybe fun but useless nonetheless.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spirit of defeat
maybe fun but useless nonetheless. spirits strength is useless if you ask me. its just a build to run for fun.

rits will attack me now for sure in guildwars for saying that.