1v1 - without heroes

Oleg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

The Apologetti

W/

It seems strange to me that there are no true 1v1 PvP options outside of scrimmage. I'm thinking along the lines of the Bison Cup "Round One: Fight" challenge, except with players. The opponents would be completely random. The doors open and you keep fighting until one is dead. Move onto the next round. It would be a new title track. Or, after 10 wins, you receive a reward (Like the Bison Cup). Would anyone want to enter this type of arena?

For variety 3 or 4 players could enter. They would each be trying to outlive all the others. Only one can win and move to the next round. It would be a whole new ball game.

If only we could bet on the outcome. You could bet 100 gold on an entrant. For every round they win you get 20 or 50 gold back. If they win all 10 you get 2-5K gold (fairly unlikely). You'd more than likely lose your 100.

I wonder what profession would come out on top?

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Very similar have been in discussion before.. /notsigned for me

Julia-Louis Dreyfus

Julia-Louis Dreyfus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

perma sf sins after 3 hours of griefing until everyone else left

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

Yeah this comes up everynow and then.

/notsigned

Game just isnt balanced for it. Plus there are all sorts of builds out there like SF, runners and whatnot, its just not something that would work well.

If you really want to do it you can just scrimmage.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Perma SF still works.

They would promptly be beaten by people carrying Signet of Disenchantment and a weapon swap.

More 1v1 idiocy would ensue.

/not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing signed

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

too many griefers would plague this arena

/notsigned

Kenny Mack

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Avatar Of Heroes

W/

personally i think this is a good idea, its quite poor that GW has no real PvP in its true meaning, "person vs person".

yea there would be issues to begin with, but anet nerf skills based on gvg's/ha/hoh etc, they could add 1vs1 to thoughts for nerf.

Game is old now, needs a new element to it

Kenny

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Mack
its quite poor that GW has no real PvP in its true meaning, "person vs person".
Player versus Player, actually.

And 1v1 could be added to the game only as long as...
- it gives no Balth Faction. At all. No Z-Keys for you, scrubcake
- there is no title for this arena. Ever. Ever.
- it gives no actual reward.
- no skill balances are ever done around this.
- it's not added to the game untill every other thing that could ever be possibly be more worthwhile is done first.

... 'kay?

Or they could just add a paper/rock/scissors arena... that's pretty much the same thing =]

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

1v1 was in the game ages ago. Doesn't take alot of sense to realise why Anet took it out.

/notsigned

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Or they could just add a paper/rock/scissors arena... that's pretty much the same thing =]
You can never beat me at that. Never.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Balance in GW is achieved by making every wingle buil be easily beaten by others.

That would turn simple 1vs1 like in scrimmages into a simply 'luck with builds' fight.

Without a system removing such extreme luck factor deciding most of the result of the fight, 1vs1 is not possible.

Possible ways to fi that could be 'tag matches', where each fight is 1vs1, but victory is not decied in a single fight, but by 3 characters or players tagging along.

warcrap

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

somewhere on earth!

E/Me

i know pvp is extremely unbalanced but it would still be fun to at least have the dueling options of WoW were u right click somebody and challenge them to a duel

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Shadow Prison gogo?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rofl.
/Closethread
If there was an intended 1v1 arena (AKA: Gladiator's Arena), that was released properly, it would of stayed.

If you REALLY want to 1v1, 1. Guild Hall, 2. Enter Battle, 3. Start Scrimmage.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

/signed..

but this would require first anet to implement new skills for this PvP-Mode for all professions, so that all professions will be balanced for a real 1vs.1

We will see this not anymore for GW1 .. but hopefully for GW2 ...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
/signed..

but this would require first anet to implement new skills for this PvP-Mode for all professions, so that all professions will be balanced for a real 1vs.1

We will see this not anymore for GW1 .. but hopefully for GW2 ...
That would completely be against GW PvP philosophy. No class can stand for its own. All of them need others.

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

/not signed

Its basically build poker an all purpose build would be completely useless, you'd need a build thats only good at killing at type of character(which would take the whole bar) and you'd have to hope you don't face anyone who counters your build.

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

notsigned

1v1....why you want that? griefing builds that are imposible to kill are fun?

Wild Karrde

Wild Karrde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Player versus Player, actually.

And 1v1 could be added to the game only as long as...
- it gives no Balth Faction. At all. No Z-Keys for you, scrubcake
- there is no title for this arena. Ever. Ever.
- it gives no actual reward.
- no skill balances are ever done around this.
- it's not added to the game untill every other thing that could ever be possibly be more worthwhile is done first.

... 'kay?

Or they could just add a paper/rock/scissors arena... that's pretty much the same thing =]
QFT

Mending Glads Def, Riposte duels FTL

Only good that would come out of it, is it could reduce the griefers out of some areas, and all the "hey 1v1 me n00b" people in AB (not that it matters much its just annoying) would go there to show there awesome 1v1 builds off >.>

Maybe we could get all those retards in one area then nuke the damn place.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
Only good that would come out of it, is it could reduce the griefers out of some areas, and all the "hey 1v1 me n00b" people in AB
That should be a bannable offense, the whole "1v1 me!!!" I just think to myself "OK, seriously, I'm an E-surge Mesmer, you're a sin... sounds fair"

On Topic: I can see it now *55 Monk vs. 55 Monk Arena* -Just run around until you get the other guy to resign! Free glad points!

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

/notsigned

its more like farming then fighting

Yuhe Ji

Yuhe Ji

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Los Angeles

E/

Needs more thinking before I can /sign. Maybe there should be a timer, and when it runs out whoever does more damage wins?

Buzzer

Buzzer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji
Needs more thinking before I can /sign. Maybe there should be a timer, and when it runs out whoever does more damage wins?
Cue terratanks

Seriously, I wouldn't waste time thinking about this. It obviously doesn't fit in GW.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Only way this could work is if all participants were forced into using premade "balanced" skill sets, so that it was a battle of skill rather then griefing. However, even then its a waste of a concept. and a bigger waste of anets time!

/notsigned

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
Only good that would come out of it, is it could reduce the griefers out of some areas, and all the "hey 1v1 me n00b" people in AB (not that it matters much its just annoying) would go there to show there awesome 1v1 builds off >.>
Oh, hey, that's true.

On second thoughts, I'll /sign this to get the griefers and idiots out.

parathract

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

Nexus One

E/A

I definetly feel they should have the option, but as stated before, no rewards since it is not balanced for it. I would love to have an area where I could go to duel 1on1 with lots of other people looking to 1v1. Scrimage just is not quick enough for me, or organized enough. There are plenty of ways to make it work out. I personally do not like how people refer to Hero Battles as 1v1...

Oh my...
What about all random skills given to each participate at the start of each match? That would be fun and random...teehee

The arenas are already biased upon what people expect you to use as it is. Having a 1v1 arena that people would bias skill sets is no different where all people do in HA is spike and spam mostly, or use the same builds over and over. I hate how you cannot go into anywhere but RA and play the build you actually want to use, because no one wants to give it a chance because it is not off wiki or widly abused...

Personally I think they should make a Random HA mode, for people who do not wish to do the same thing over and over. I understand that people naturally want to exploit things to win to make them selves feel better, but give it a rest.

Oleg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

The Apologetti

W/

The only way it could really work is to have a punch out arena. Everyone has the same skills. You can get up when knocked down rather than be killed and rezzed. It'd be fun but not serious enough for PvPers. There's way too much chest-beating going on in most PvP arenas for a fun one to survive.

I hadn't realised there was a 1v1 arena. When was that?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Before release.
Gladiators' Arena.
It was planned, but Guild Wars IS a Team Game after all.

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

sure. and i will be using grenth's balance. kthx.

and to counter those using grenth's balance, I will use a 55 monk.

have you ever stopped to think how imbalanced 1v1 would be?

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg
It seems strange to me that there are no true 1v1 PvP options outside of scrimmage.
Maybe because 1 vs 1 is stupid?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg
I wonder what profession would come out on top?
Mesmer

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

The advantage certain builds would have would make this into a total failure :/

/notsigned

Itokaru

Itokaru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

BC, Canada

Disciples of the Fish

R/Mo

/notsigned

The game just isn't balanced for 1v1, that's why there's only TvT arenas.

I do like the idea of a brawling arena though..Only being able to use the brawling skills =D