what is sabway
h9dlb
what is this build i keep reading about ?
Proff
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...63&postcount=2
It rolls through any mob in the game with ease.
It rolls through any mob in the game with ease.
jonnieboi05
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Te...Necro_Vanquish
first off, "sabway" is just a build that people use who can't do things their own way-- originally-- and with something i like to call "skil". "sabway" is like ursan, except in team-buid form. the name "sab-" comes from the guy who "created" if (which he didn't; he just ripped it from a PvP build called "spiritway" and changed a few skills and took credit for it).
anyways, hope i cleared some of that up.
first off, "sabway" is just a build that people use who can't do things their own way-- originally-- and with something i like to call "skil". "sabway" is like ursan, except in team-buid form. the name "sab-" comes from the guy who "created" if (which he didn't; he just ripped it from a PvP build called "spiritway" and changed a few skills and took credit for it).
anyways, hope i cleared some of that up.
Numa Pompilius
And it does not roll through any mob with ease.
It's based on using a minionbomber for nuking, thereby also generating infinite energy for a curse necro and a healer ritualist-necro. The build completely sputters if you do not have large amounts of exploitable bodies around.
But those who use it tend to simply compensate for the low efficiency of the build in areas like Hells Precipice by using consumables.
It's a good build in many areas, but it's not as uber as some would have you think.
It's based on using a minionbomber for nuking, thereby also generating infinite energy for a curse necro and a healer ritualist-necro. The build completely sputters if you do not have large amounts of exploitable bodies around.
But those who use it tend to simply compensate for the low efficiency of the build in areas like Hells Precipice by using consumables.
It's a good build in many areas, but it's not as uber as some would have you think.
Abedeus
Yeah, sabway is like ursan. That's why it doesn't make a team full of tanks with 86+ AL and 600 hp, vulnerable to hexes and doesn't have a frontliner.
Plus, you don't have to use sabway to get into pve groups. You do have to use ursan ;d
Plus, you don't have to use sabway to get into pve groups. You do have to use ursan ;d
jonnieboi05
"ursan is like sabway" ... let me rephrase. i meant it as in "it's an overused build that people resort to when they can't use their own skills (assuming they have any to begin with...)"
need anymore clarification?
need anymore clarification?
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
"ursan is like sabway" ... let me rephrase. i meant it as in "it's an overused build that people resort to when they can't use their own skills (assuming they have any to begin with...)"
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Chances are, it works better than whatever you made "originally" (hint: with a small number of skills in this game, someones probably already made the exact same bar as you).
kobey
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
he just ripped it from a PvP build called "spiritway" and changed a few skills and took credit for it).
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Originally Posted by Sab
This is basically a cut-down version of the HA Jagged Bones build. You don't need to micro anything, it's pretty much PvE on auto pilot. (used this to vanquish the Jungle by the way, this should work well anywhere else.)
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bog boy
i dont think he took credit for it either
people just associate it with sab cos i think he/she posted it on guru originaly
people just associate it with sab cos i think he/she posted it on guru originaly
Numa Pompilius
It's a very forgiving build, as it's self sufficient and the player is optional, meaning it's really hard to screw up.
It'll work (if it's an area with plenty of exploitable bodies) even if the player is a mending wammo who is a bit unclear about when and how to use frenzy and healsig, and who thinks "pull" is something you do to fingers.
EDIT: Although that player should really be playing Ursan instead. Ursan was made for mending wammos with frenzy and healsig who like to gogogo.
It'll work (if it's an area with plenty of exploitable bodies) even if the player is a mending wammo who is a bit unclear about when and how to use frenzy and healsig, and who thinks "pull" is something you do to fingers.
EDIT: Although that player should really be playing Ursan instead. Ursan was made for mending wammos with frenzy and healsig who like to gogogo.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
"ursan is like sabway" ... let me rephrase. i meant it as in "it's an overused build that people resort to when they can't use their own skills (assuming they have any to begin with...)"
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Oh wait yeah thats right i dont have skills because i choose to use 3 Necro heroes instead of a Monk or Ele. My bad your obviously pro. Apparantly running certain team set ups now counts as "like Ursan".
Anyway to answer Sabway is a team set up of 3 Necro heroes. It is very effective in Hard Mode however like Numa said it is not unstopable.
Macks Mistress
I love it when people complain about "over used" builds. Chances are thats because it works effectivley and its fun.
Alas I suppose we should all be special and come up with ineffective shite just so we can feel good about ourselves.
If I want to get something done I run effective and reliable builds, if I want to mess around I jump into RA.
Alas I suppose we should all be special and come up with ineffective shite just so we can feel good about ourselves.
If I want to get something done I run effective and reliable builds, if I want to mess around I jump into RA.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Macks Mistress
I love it when people complain about "over used" builds. Chances are thats because it works effectivley and its fun.
Alas I suppose we should all be special and come up with ineffective shite just so we can feel good about ourselves. If I want to get something done I run effective and reliable builds, if I want to mess around I jump into RA. |
But anything and everything works in PvE even if it is "ineffective shite."
I run 2 MM's and a Curse necro with Barbs
. Put those damn henchman monks to use...
Oukanna
Interesting...cant say il ever use it lol
Though i wound not go as far as insulting the people who do use it, that is just a little harsh imo.
Though i wound not go as far as insulting the people who do use it, that is just a little harsh imo.
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by h9dlb
what is this build i keep reading about ?
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To OP: Just check out those links given to find out more info about "Sabway". Ignore the useless rants that make up most of this thread.
Mr. G
I dont get this build tbh, Ive tried it but always seem to do better with my own builds - their particulary ground breaking, but I seem tod ie alot more with sabway
And for the fact it can "Survive high pressure" - 2 words:
Prot Monk
And for the fact it can "Survive high pressure" - 2 words:
Prot Monk
Olim Chill
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Originally Posted by quickmonty
Did OP asks for opinions and arguments? Nope. Question was answered in first few posts.
To OP: Just check out those links given to find out more info about "Sabway". Ignore the useless rants that make up most of this thread. |
English Warrior
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Te...Necro_Vanquish
first off, "sabway" is just a build that people use who can't do things their own way-- originally-- and with something i like to call "skil". "sabway" is like ursan, except in team-buid form. the name "sab-" comes from the guy who "created" if (which he didn't; he just ripped it from a PvP build called "spiritway" and changed a few skills and took credit for it). anyways, hope i cleared some of that up. |
izzywish
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And your one of those people who are just annoyed because you didnt discover how good this was first
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Fril Estelin
And the credits of this build go, I believe, to Sab who is on GWG:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/member.php?u=45564
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/member.php?u=45564
Chthon
Sabway is a hero-team build for 4-man areas that compresses a team's vital functions into just 3 hero builds. A Minion Bomber plus two other necromancers are used to take advantage of soul reaping to power skills that would otherwise be too expensive. The player is not vital to the build, so they are free to suck without causing too much of a negative impact.
It works very well in 4-man areas. It works alright in 6-man areas. It's not so hot in 8-man areas, but many people still use it anyway. You would be (much) better off "unpacking" the vital functions onto more specialized builds, since you have the space to do so in 8-man areas (even if that means building around the 4 least-sucky henchmen).
One other thing of note: the AI, particularly on the resto necro, has some serious skill usage problems, which can be somewhat overcome by microing.
Sabway is named for Sab, who first popularized the build.
It works very well in 4-man areas. It works alright in 6-man areas. It's not so hot in 8-man areas, but many people still use it anyway. You would be (much) better off "unpacking" the vital functions onto more specialized builds, since you have the space to do so in 8-man areas (even if that means building around the 4 least-sucky henchmen).
One other thing of note: the AI, particularly on the resto necro, has some serious skill usage problems, which can be somewhat overcome by microing.
Sabway is named for Sab, who first popularized the build.
Nightmares Hammer
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It works.
Chances are, it works better than whatever you made "originally" (hint: with a small number of skills in this game, someones probably already made the exact same bar as you). |
OP: Yeah, just click on one of the many links...
+1
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
"ursan is like sabway" ... let me rephrase. i meant it as in "it's an overused build that people resort to when they can't use their own skills (assuming they have any to begin with...)"
need anymore clarification? |
I have used a simmilar setup on all my martial classes except my para (who has access to a whole different level of power) when playing with h/h.
Earth
Isn't it funny how almost every single thread gets turned into a rant thread these days?