Ravenous Gaze; utterly useless?

The mandragors in Nightfall paired with Shelboh seem to execute this skill very well and it can be devastating being hit with multiple Ravenous Gazes. (At blood magic 16, this skill will steal 120 health in one go if the caster is beneath 50% health. If you get hit by more than 3-5 of these it's good bye.) 1. Not only is the skill mediocre at best, its in a unfavorable att line
2. We aren't Mandragors
3. Good luck finding 3-5 people using this in PvP

Then people would inflict bleeding on themselves, with other blood skills. And then you have 8 people dealing 120. They'd have to sac down by 120 pts to get the full lifesteal, otherwise it would deal Shadow Damage. It would lifesteal upto your current health and deal the rest as Shadow.

If you saw someone saccing down in PvP ... um...counterspike that person. Problem solved.

how bout that it can only steal as much health as u can gain
(for all bloodmagic)
for example:

if ur at 530/530hp
u will steal 0hp No. That would make Blood useless, except for a self-heal. It needs to deal damage or a lifesteal.

No. That would make Blood useless, except for a self-heal. It needs to deal damage or a lifesteal. teh blood magic line has bout as many shadow dmg spells as it does lifesteal spells

i was refering to strictly teh lifesteal spells

e.g.
u cast dark pact, deal 50shadow dmg, lose 53hp (10% of 530hp)
u cast vamp gaze, target loses 53hp, u gain 53hp

this as an attempt to stop abusable blood spike
as they would have to either sac themselves (making them vulerable to spike themselves)
or use shadow dmg spells in combination w/ lifesteal (which is protable)

teh blood magic line has bout as many shadow dmg spells as it does lifesteal spells

i was refering to strictly teh lifesteal spells

e.g.
u cast dark pact, deal 50shadow dmg, lose 53hp (10% of 530hp)
u cast vamp gaze, target loses 53hp, u gain 53hp

this as an attempt to stop abusable blood spike
as they would have to either sac themselves (making them vulerable to spike themselves)
or use shadow dmg spells in combination w/ lifesteal (which is protable) i had a very similar idea about life stealing mechanic in general, only that you would steal the health up to 80% (or 100%) of your maximum health and any remaining damage dealt would be shadow damage. but since i never worked on the actual numbers yet, i just left it on the back burner.

edit: something to do with infuse health.



Jayce Of Underworld

Word of Healing; utterly useless?

Is this skill completely useless, like the rest of the healing line or does it have some sort of hidden and overlooked merit? The Shadow Monks in FoW paired with the Priest of Menzies seem to execute this skill very well and it can be devastating being healed with multiple Word of Healings. (At healing prayers 16, this skill will heal 138 health in one go if the target is below 50% health. If you get healed by more than 3-5 of these you will live.)

So far to me it seems this skill only truly shines when you're below 50% health.
The question is; how do you remain perpetually beneath 50% health, not die, and utilize this as anything more than purely defensive? That's because being under 50% health means you would need to be healed and what better spell to heal someone under 50% health than with a spell made to heal things under 50% health? Needing that much health to use an offensive skill is pretty damn stupid, because if you stay at under 50% for too long I guarantee you you're dead.