Merchant should sell a 'piggy bank'
crazybanshee
I was browsing the high end stuff on guru auction and got to thinking how irritating it must be when stuff is selling for stacks of ectos and armbraces and the price is fluctuating so much lately (or in the case of armbraces, dropping) What if merchants sold a new item, 'piggy bank' or whatever you want to call it, with a unique icon that doesn't look like ectos or anything else, that they sold for 100k and ALSO bought for 100k. Therefore using it in trades would mean it's worth exactly 100k, never more or less. It wouldn't drop from monsters or be available any other way so the price would never fluctuate. Then you could use it to buy and sell, or sell it to a merch if you want the 100k instead. I doubt at this point they'd do that kind of overhaul to the trading system, but it sure seems like it would be helpful for those kinds of trades (not that I could afford any of that stuff lol)
Konig Des Todes
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It would get rid of the QQing from very rich people who complain about no space for money, thats for sure.
It would get rid of the QQing from very rich people who complain about no space for money, thats for sure.
dubiel005
i like the idea anet shld hav came up with something like this a while ago
Shayne Hawke
Only if it's stackable.
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October Jade
The 100k limit per character is presumably there for a reason. I don't see that disappearing any time soon, regardless of how you propose to circumvent it.
Also, this has been suggested innumerable times in the past. Try search.
Also, this has been suggested innumerable times in the past. Try search.
N1ghtstalker
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no more + xx e but + xx piggy lol
no more + xx e but + xx piggy lol
Solas
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy.
if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc.
theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy.
if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc.
Limu Tolkki
Would make things easier but would also crash ecto prices even more. Maybe in gw2....
MithranArkanere
Hm... let me see....
I'll use my suggestion translator...
"Bypass the gold limit in trades".
Asking this is like asking for 7 heroes. Will never happen.
I'll use my suggestion translator...
"Bypass the gold limit in trades".
Asking this is like asking for 7 heroes. Will never happen.
Nanood
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/signed for stackable
/signed for making it look like an actual piggy bank
For sale High end sword for 2 piggies
I don't think ectoplasm was installed in the game for economic reasons.. It's for FOW remember. It would just mean that ecto would be used for it's created purpose instead of a cash buffer. Mind you those people who sold a mini rollerbeetle for 1500 ecto would be a little put out.
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/signed for making it look like an actual piggy bank
For sale High end sword for 2 piggies
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy. if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc. |
runchippyrun
/signed i think there should be someone called a piggy bank trader or what ever in only major citys and u can buy them for your guild hall! This would also destory those damn gold selling companies MUST BE STACKABLE
Kattar
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy. if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc. |
Rich people don't need more gold. People who buy gold don't need anywhere esle to keep it.
Unholy Tank V
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This would destroy the ecto economy. effectively bringing their prices down and making them valueless
This would destroy the ecto economy. effectively bringing their prices down and making them valueless
Shayne Hawke
Is there a reason why a loss in ecto's value would be bad?
farmerfez
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Is there a reason why a loss in ecto's value would be bad?
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Marverick
Selling these items would defeat the whole purpose of the 100k / 1000k cap on characters / storage. ANet might as well just remove that.
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy. if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc. |
Horus Moonlight
Since when were ectos official use a form of bypassing the 100k limit trade? Some people just make me chuckle with pity and disgust.
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angmar_nite
Since the origins of the game. And the means of bypassing 100k is pretty much flawless and efficient so why the hell not.
Horus Moonlight
Really? Find me some evidence that that was ectos official use instead of being a material for FoW armour.
Just because the overall community used ectos as such does not mean that was what it was intended for.
Just because the overall community used ectos as such does not mean that was what it was intended for.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Hm... let me see....
I'll use my suggestion translator... "Bypass the gold limit in trades". Asking this is like asking for 7 heroes. Will never happen. |
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by farmerfez
Because everyone would QQ about people having FoW.
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Talarian
I don't think anything new should be added, but I think the caps should either be raised or removed. As for ectos being "pretty much flawless and efficient", that kinda went out the window when the favour system changed and the price dropped by about 1k. A lot of people were QQing then, but they got over it, so why would a future price crash be any different?
Vlatro
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It's too late in the game to introduce something that drastic to the economy. Some items are currently held as supplemental currency (ecto, armbraces, rare minis). If they no longer served that purpose, the value of them would plummet overnight. That's good for buyers, but for those of use who already have them in storage would lose tons of money. The people this is proposed to help would be hurt by it. The ones who stand to gain are the ones who don't have that kind of money very often anyway.
But this you guys already understand, and obviously don't care about. The other problems come in if something like another duping bug is introduced. People would dupe the hell out of these because the price is guarenteed by a merchant. If they dupe ectos or armbraces under the current system, those items lose value at a certian point as the economy is saturated with them. By fixing a price, you risk the entire economy. That is specifically why no items of significant value have fixed prices. AreaNet has worked hard to preserve that. Even when duping has occurred, the fallout was minimal compare to other games like Diablo where economic crashes were a daily occurrence. This is a big "IF", but should it happen, we would all be screwed over by it. Until you can plan for that contingency, I stay firmly in the "Hell No, Not Ever" camp.
It's too late in the game to introduce something that drastic to the economy. Some items are currently held as supplemental currency (ecto, armbraces, rare minis). If they no longer served that purpose, the value of them would plummet overnight. That's good for buyers, but for those of use who already have them in storage would lose tons of money. The people this is proposed to help would be hurt by it. The ones who stand to gain are the ones who don't have that kind of money very often anyway.
But this you guys already understand, and obviously don't care about. The other problems come in if something like another duping bug is introduced. People would dupe the hell out of these because the price is guarenteed by a merchant. If they dupe ectos or armbraces under the current system, those items lose value at a certian point as the economy is saturated with them. By fixing a price, you risk the entire economy. That is specifically why no items of significant value have fixed prices. AreaNet has worked hard to preserve that. Even when duping has occurred, the fallout was minimal compare to other games like Diablo where economic crashes were a daily occurrence. This is a big "IF", but should it happen, we would all be screwed over by it. Until you can plan for that contingency, I stay firmly in the "Hell No, Not Ever" camp.
Angelina Collins
It's supply and demand pricing. There is no need to change it with piggy banks or ecto's or armbraces. Study economics if you want to know what to do.
But for those who are stupid, it's quite simple. DO NOT BUY IT!!! That will force players to lower there prices until it sells, but as long as there is a demand, players will offer outragous prices, knowing that hacks have money to pay. It's called price gauging.
So in conclusion, the fact that FOW armor, and rare items are in demand, means that resouses used to make them will also be in demand, meaning the coutinuence of the high prices on those items, and their use as supplmental curency.
But for those who are stupid, it's quite simple. DO NOT BUY IT!!! That will force players to lower there prices until it sells, but as long as there is a demand, players will offer outragous prices, knowing that hacks have money to pay. It's called price gauging.
So in conclusion, the fact that FOW armor, and rare items are in demand, means that resouses used to make them will also be in demand, meaning the coutinuence of the high prices on those items, and their use as supplmental curency.
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Angelina Collins
It's supply and demand pricing. There is no need to change it with piggy banks or ecto's or armbraces. Study economics if you want to know what to do.
But for those who are stupid, it's quite simple. DO NOT BUY IT!!! That will force players to lower there prices until it sells, but as long as there is a demand, players will offer outragous prices, knowing that hacks have money to pay. It's called price gauging. So in conclusion, the fact that FOW armor, and rare items are in demand, means that resouses used to make them will also be in demand, meaning the coutinuence of the high prices on those items, and their use as supplmental curency. |
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy. if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc. |
Well that would be true if the same ectos did not change the same peoples hands over and over and over.
Hording ectos in stacks does not help the econ, and UW farming for ectos is pointless considering the drop rate/time spent
October Jade
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Nice theorycraft; none of that will work in GW, and hasn't for the whole ~3 years of it's life.
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Economics isn't about dollars or gold or oil cartel conspiracies. It's a study of people and the decisions they make. Ingame behavior is sometimes aberrant due to a lack of long-term consequences, but such circumstances comprise only a tiny fraction of overall economic involvement. The core thought process which leads to market activity is identical to that for any other part of one's life. Players constantly (even unconsciously) make rational price decisions in GW just as they would when shopping for groceries.
R.Shayne
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
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theres a cut off limit for a reason, it forces people to invest in ectos/econemy. if this is brought in i'd imagine a mass selling of ectos and a nice bit of them would be worthless. uw farming pointless etc. |
UW farming is pointless and has been for a while since you can make more gold per hour in other areas. Take your 100k to the temple of ages and covert it to ecto.
If you are hording ecto or armbraces I would suggest you start getting rid of it, once GW2 is released the price of rare material will most likely decrease since the number of players will decrease and so will demand (just like it has fallen since fewer people now play guild wars).
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After all the cry babies stop complaining about their e-pen shrinking it might actually lead to a stable economy which would be a first for GW.
Fear Me!
/signed, but only if they're hot neon pink and glow like chaos gloves. It's a good idea, and will clearly become the new backing of the gw economy;I'll feel sorry for those people who hoard ectos though.