ok to sell invites?

The guilds that sell invites are just lowering the guild quality by letting random ppl ware there tags/capes.Good way to kill a guilds respect in the community.

Players willing to pay money to be invited into a guild just so they can run around saying " Hey look at my cape, im leet..bite me noob i got a gold cape"..well they have bigger probs to worry about.

But to each is own.

A top guild selling its spots is a guild I'd never want to be a part of no matter what fame, or prestige follows in its name.

this isn't the topic.

i love you. 12 chars
thats a great point though, they are probably laughing at the idiots they invite.. but still it lowers the respect imo.

Strapped for cash eh? I easily have over 1000 ectos that I earned myself through fair means (not power trading). I'm doing this for people not like you, but people who like to collect. How many of you guys have every single prestige armor set? How many of you have god walking amongst mere mortals? How many of you have HoM fully unlocked. I did this for you. The time it took me to gather all the hats from my guildmates, and convince them of this, I could have easily gathered over twice the amount the bid is going for in there. This isn't like selling a guild invite, to get someone else's customized hat does not mean you got something that took them a long time to get.

End the thoughtless comments please.

Yeah, let's go with "I'm doing it for you". We can't take them to the hat trader to wear them, we can't wear them ourselves and they'd clog up space to the point they'd go in the trash.

Also, you said you were keeping them unless your 100k bid was met. If you were TRULY doing it for others, you'd be giving them away for free.

Well, like someone else said, "A fool and their money are easily parted." Now bring on the fools!

did you know that people who like to collect, also like FREE items? but...if they were free...it wouldn't be worth it...would it?

No, if you did it for me, they would be free...not in a auction with an unlimited bid amount. which i'm sure you are willing to let itself grow nice and large.

it's not THAT hard to post a guild announcement, which tells me you're not happy with the bid amount, at least not yet, thus implying it's all about the gold...not about doing it for me.

agreed.

LoL.

-I just had to post on this...if needed, please do the -1 thing..I just hope a few see it. and for the record, i'm not against it, I just find it unbelievably...Tacky

let me just take a wild guess of which guild in particular u r talking about. I guarantee u are talking about all those [eF] scrubs selling invites. If u join the guild make sure to keep urself set to offline or DND cuz u will get pmed with massive insults for making the dumbest move ever

I do and many other people believe with me that >>>YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR TRIM<<<<<. For me I have earned a couple silver trims for gvging with top 50 ranked guilds and a couple bronze trim as well.

Why should anyone care seriously? If it's your guild, do whatever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you want with it. Moral issues? Respect? Lmao...

Oh yeah, not all PVPers are d***heads. Those are normally the losers who got beat too much and badly in need of an e-peen stroke.

True, but usually the guilds that sell invites have already been sold, and aren't being used by the people who made it. Like eF, it was sold, and the person who bought it sold invites. Like DF, it was sold, and the guy who bought is selling invites (now all officers too). It happens with a lot of guilds. So most people don't lose respect, because they know that either the guys sold the guild, or aren't going to use it any more.

i'd sell invites NP if there was someone asking for our silver trim.

done it once the evening we got our trim for the lulz, too.

but who wants silver now when it's so easy to have pretty gold ones by now. :'(

I like how this topic is turning into a personal attack on me. I would just brisk it away, but then other people would would have biased thoughts against me. I am merely defending myself here. There actually are a lot of underlying concepts that slightly and on a much much lesser scale of things (also setting limites) relate to the cape selling.

Hah, yea, and then every single person in Guild Wars would want a hat. I personally do not believe in the first come first serve thing. The reason I said I was keeping it was because, simply saying that I would rather keep it. I would rather waste 9 inventory slots keeping such a collection than giving it to someone who really doesn't value the collection for what it's worth.

Let's put it in a simpler real life analogy. If I were to give you a brand new Ferrari for free. It simply would not mean as much to you as compared if you had earned the money to buy it for $200,000.

In layman's terms, think about a rare baseball card. Are they worth anything to you? Probably not. But are they worth thousands of dollars to a baseball card collecter? Yes, and you can't deny that.

You kind of answered yourself right there. (see above paragraph)

But see, I don't know you. I also don't know most everyone in the Guild Wars community. Now, being nice and helping random people in public places (aka this forum) is nice, but if I do something nice to one person, people will get jealous. Putting it on high end, is unfortunately, my only way of finding a person who will think it's worth the value (this being the value they payed for it and more).

The reason it was hard, was because:
1. This is not important enough to post a guild announcement about. It would seem quite selfish at the first outlook, and there is not enough room on the announcement to explain the situation. Just think about what you're asking me to do...
2. Some people may have had misconceptions.
I am pretty sure I made it clear that I value the collection to be more than the reserve price, but I would rather see another individual get it as it is not worth as much to me (seeing how as I am already in the guild with the respective members).

NO WAI

I GOTS MORE $200.01 TO BE IN noGG!!

A free Ferrari is a gift to be treasured, as it's a sign of generosity. Paying for one yourself is nothing more than flaunting wealth that the general population HONESTLY don't give a rat's ass about. Your hats are that Ferrari.

But let's face it. It's not me you have to convince. You're doing it for money, you're selling it for money. Now just convince yourself otherwise.

Except...Hats aren't like a Ferrari. They're like a Ferrari badge stuck on a Dodge Neon. The hat is a pile of crap, but has a famous name on it, zzzz

I do agree that a free Ferrari is a gift to be treasured. However, the same thing can be said of any gift. The problem with your argument, is that you are missing one key factor in your claim. Money is something you spend wisely. You obviously are not the Bill Gates of Guild Wars, or you wouldn't be attempting to make that point. A person does not just "waste" $200,000 on a Ferrari. He must want it. Maybe his life goal was to buy a Ferrari? Would we call him flaunting his wealth? Would his neighbors make fun of him for trying to flaunt his wealth? No. The actions are neither ethical nor logical. They would clearly care about the Ferrari. Yes, the "general population" does not give a "rat's ass" about it, so why are you even caring about my Ferrari? Apparently you think there is something to talk about in making this claim. Thus, this brings me back to my main point. A person who truly values something for it's worth, will go at any lengths, especially time, to achieve it.

This claim that I am about to make, is solely in response of your uncalled transgression. Clearly you have not gone to English class or something. Argument lesson #1: if you want to make a point through to someone, you do not lecture them like they are hardheaded little kids. You provide reasonable examples and evidences to proove your point. Clearly you do not understand that so I will not try to make you see any difference. I see this as merely an opportunity to get my point through to other individuals who are reading this thread.

Keep up the wild claims coming so I can counter you. This is fun.

If you truly want a better analogy. Think of a very rare collection of baseball cards. Personally, I value some stuff more and others less in this category (baseball cards go less in my category), but other individuals may think differently. Why is it still that there are baseball cards that go for thousands of dollars? You tell me.

Stop wall o' texting and read posts. Ferrari analogy won't work, the hats are WORTHLESS. They just have a fancy name. Try comparing to something that actually makes sense, like an autograph from a singer. Either way, you're dumb for selling them, the thread will end just like WhiteWasabi's one.

Also; I have an Ogre-Slaying Knife customised by War First Queen, wts 100e.

You're right. I didn't go to English classes. In Scotland, we inherently learn the language from schools that don't exist.

Now, when you say money's not an issue, yet go on and sell a gift for money, what ARE you trying to accomplish? Seeing as you're having fun trying to defend the pride of your actions, you already know what you're doing is morally questionable.

And, my dear boy, a counter implies an equal and opposite force. Maybe in your valued English classes, you can pick that one up.

I know I've already won this, but I like to hammer a load of nails into a nice, sturdy coffin. Mainly because the banging sound is fun from the retalliation.

By English classes, I mean studying Argument in school. It was failure on my part to realize that you would not infer this information from my diction, given your presumably high-minded concepts of being able to "imply" things (see two paragraphs down). Ever heard of persuasive writing?

Read the above 2-3 posts from me. It's already quite obvious you aren't reading my whole post as you are asking for the umpteenth time what I am trying to accomplish as have already explained what I am trying to accomplish. Also, morally questionable? What kind of morals do you follow? I won't allow this discussion to venture into the areas of morality and religion, as different people have different views, so the questions I have just asked are merely for rhetorical purposes.

You said a counter implies whatever you said. Implying something is up to personal opinion on how they imply it. A counter, however denotes "a statement or action made to refute, oppose, or nullify another statement or action" (Dictionary.com).

Argument lesson #2: You're not my mother. You can't really give the "I'm right your wrong talk" when you clearly have not given any proofs. You say morally wrong? Explain. You ask what I mean to accomplish? I have explained thrice and yet you still ask, as if I have never said anything. Clearly this is not an argument. This is me giving you a brutal beatdown because you are making blatant claims while I support my end with solid examples and evidences.

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I'd like to continue this in PMs, since you are forcing the both of us to veer the discussion off topic.