barrage and heroes
blockkiller
why my heroes don't spam barrage that fast, they spam it once in 3 sec but the recharche is only 1 sec is there a way to make my hero spam it?
Buddhaofwar
disable all skills but barrage, or click it yourself.
Arkanghel
Heroes will utilize the entire skill set you give em to the best of their abilities which often doesnt mean what you want em to do. If you want em to just focus on 1 skill then do what buddha said disable the rest or you can just put barrage as the only offensive skill on the bar and the rest are support. Ive had more luck using that method than disabling. I also get more milage out of my heroes since i usually add utility/defensive skills on em short of barrage.
Super Igor
Why barrage?
~Super Igor ~
~Super Igor ~
Blu
Why not? (In Eotn atleast)
Trvth Jvstice
Barrage with Splinter Weapon or an elemental conjure added does great AoE dmg - that's "why barrage." Sure Volley is fine but Barrage is so much better for the effect intended.
Terrokian
How about apply poison+barrage+epidemic?Make sure you have a 33% poison bow string.If you are shooting for mass effect there's your combo.What you do with your other 5 slots would be up to you.Now I realize barrage hits alot of enemies ,but you leave it up to her to choose which enemy she epidemics which can spread your poison even further.
Antithesis
[skill=text]Barrage[/skill]...take note of the 'removes preparations' part.
fenix
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Originally Posted by Terrokian
How about apply poison+barrage+epidemic?Make sure you have a 33% poison bow string.If you are shooting for mass effect there's your combo.What you do with your other 5 slots would be up to you.Now I realize barrage hits alot of enemies ,but you leave it up to her to choose which enemy she epidemics which can spread your poison even further.
wat?
Barrage + Apply + Epidemic?
wat?
Barrage + Apply + Epidemic?
wat?
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
Barrage with Splinter Weapon or an elemental conjure added does great AoE dmg - that's "why barrage." Sure Volley is fine but Barrage is so much better for the effect intended.
Or bring Sharpen Daggers for AoE Bleeding and Way of the Master if you are a critical barrager. Volley, being non-elite, can also work with Ebon Dust Aura for AoE blind.
Terrokian
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
[skill=text]Barrage[/skill]...take note of the 'removes preparations' part.
oops forgot bout that part.seemed like an idea at the time though
kobey
From my experience the last time i ran barrage on a hero, they usually spam them when mobs group together. They almost never use it on single targets.
Things might change now, but thats what i experienced few months ago.
Things might change now, but thats what i experienced few months ago.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by kobey
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Originally Posted by Terrokian
oops forgot bout that part.seemed like an idea at the time though
You can use Poison Tip Signet with Barrage or Volley though since Poison Tip Signet is not a preparation, but only the first arrow that hits would induce poison.
Super Igor
Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...
~Super Igor ~ Nyktos
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Originally Posted by Super Igor
Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...
~Super Igor ~ Heroes use Magebane to interrupt wanding. Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Super Igor
Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...
~Super Igor ~ u stupid? barrrage is the best damage option rangers have afya
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u stupid?
barrrage is the best damage option rangers have may be not on heroes, becoz they dunno how to splitter it/spam it as well as human. I use ranger hero mainly as interrupt or condition spreading. Ele hero would do much higher damage I think. High Moral
Barrage+Splinter+Ancestor 2 interupts on hero works SUPER good.
He tend to give you the splinter, but combine it with a friend running SABWAY, then everyone have splinter.. oh splinter.. splinter looooove splinter loooover. DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by High Moral
Barrage+Splinter+Ancestor 2 interupts on hero works SUPER good.
He tend to give you the splinter, but combine it with a friend running SABWAY, then everyone have splinter.. oh splinter.. splinter looooove splinter loooover. And that is why they nerfed the Splinter+Barrage combination. Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack. Sabway Splinter can only trigger for 4 hits even though Barrage can potentially hit more adjacent foes than that. It is still good but not as godly as before. Personally, I prefer Warmonger's weapon with Barrage but maybe that is just me. FoxBat
If you're going to bring splinter/ancestors put it on the necro/rit or something. They have no awareness about who to put the splinter on.
In my experience heroes tend to get stuck in normal attack. When you barrage, whatever the bow, there's a time when you can start a normal attack while barrage is recharging. Players cancel the attack by hitting barrage again, heroes don't. Solution: add volley. They will go right from barrage into volley and back again, alternating endlessly. This would be wasteful on a human bar, but then these guys aren't human and are just wasting that second attack anyway. In EotN aidan actually uses this trick. Trvth Jvstice
I rarely take a Ranger, if I do, it's just to add a little variety to the game, but Jin seems to use Splinter/Barrage quite well. Even so, your Ranger Hero is never going to be considered one of your big dmg heroes. If they are, you must not be using your Nec and Ele heroes correctly.
Boneyard Spleeneater
I use barrage with a Fiery bow on Margrid. With 1-2 SF eles, it keeps the fires burning. Especially if you call your targets right.
I usually bring her along instead of a MM when I will be someplace short on corpses.The rest of her skills tend to be defensive, although I always carry 2-3 interrupts on her. Not sure how well she uses them though... Amy Awien
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack.
Afaik it did always was like that, at least with other skills that trigger 'on-attack'. A relevant note on wiki dates back to januari of 2006
Abedeus
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And that is why they nerfed the Splinter+Barrage combination. Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack.
Ha. Nice joke. After SW's buff, they didn't touch it for 5-6 months. Why? Because it was used in PvE and not so often. But they nerfed it because of GvG changes, as everyone used splinter weapon to wtf pwn npc's at VoD.
Super Igor
Barrage is inferior, dont use it...
~Super Igor ~ Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Super Igor
Barrage is inferior, dont use it...
~Super Igor ~ barrage is superior. this is a fact known by most players. please post with some information instead of statements that make no sense. Trvth Jvstice
Ignore Super Igor, he is farming forum titles. Look at his join date and his post history - all 2-4 word responses, usually of little relevance. I reported him, hopefully he will be deleted.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Ha. Nice joke. After SW's buff, they didn't touch it for 5-6 months. Why? Because it was used in PvE and not so often. But they nerfed it because of GvG changes, as everyone used splinter weapon to wtf pwn npc's at VoD.
They nerfed [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] into
For 20 seconds, target ally has a Splinter Weapon. Target ally's next successful 1...4 attack(s) deal(s) [sic] 5...41 damage to up to 3 adjacent foes. Notice the difference between the skill description when you place your cursor on top of the skill icon, and the current description. Splinter Weapon damage used to affect all adjacent foes but now it is limited to 3 adjacent foes. Barrage hits up to 6 adjacents foes to your target, so like I said, the Splinter-Barrage combination used to be more powerful than it is now. |