barrage and heroes

blockkiller

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

empty

D/Me

why my heroes don't spam barrage that fast, they spam it once in 3 sec but the recharche is only 1 sec is there a way to make my hero spam it?

Buddhaofwar

Buddhaofwar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Flying Gophers

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disable all skills but barrage, or click it yourself.

Arkanghel

Arkanghel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Half Not Bad

W/Mo

Heroes will utilize the entire skill set you give em to the best of their abilities which often doesnt mean what you want em to do. If you want em to just focus on 1 skill then do what buddha said disable the rest or you can just put barrage as the only offensive skill on the bar and the rest are support. Ive had more luck using that method than disabling. I also get more milage out of my heroes since i usually add utility/defensive skills on em short of barrage.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Why barrage?

~Super Igor ~

Blu

Blu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

R/

Why not? (In Eotn atleast)

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

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Barrage with Splinter Weapon or an elemental conjure added does great AoE dmg - that's "why barrage." Sure Volley is fine but Barrage is so much better for the effect intended.

Terrokian

Terrokian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Alliance,Ohio

Terrokian's Avengers

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How about apply poison+barrage+epidemic?Make sure you have a 33% poison bow string.If you are shooting for mass effect there's your combo.What you do with your other 5 slots would be up to you.Now I realize barrage hits alot of enemies ,but you leave it up to her to choose which enemy she epidemics which can spread your poison even further.

Antithesis

Antithesis

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

BrisneyLand

Sphincter Says [What]

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[skill=text]Barrage[/skill]...take note of the 'removes preparations' part.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrokian
How about apply poison+barrage+epidemic?Make sure you have a 33% poison bow string.If you are shooting for mass effect there's your combo.What you do with your other 5 slots would be up to you.Now I realize barrage hits alot of enemies ,but you leave it up to her to choose which enemy she epidemics which can spread your poison even further. wat?

Barrage + Apply + Epidemic?

wat?

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
Barrage with Splinter Weapon or an elemental conjure added does great AoE dmg - that's "why barrage." Sure Volley is fine but Barrage is so much better for the effect intended. Or bring Sharpen Daggers for AoE Bleeding and Way of the Master if you are a critical barrager. Volley, being non-elite, can also work with Ebon Dust Aura for AoE blind.

Terrokian

Terrokian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Alliance,Ohio

Terrokian's Avengers

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
[skill=text]Barrage[/skill]...take note of the 'removes preparations' part. oops forgot bout that part.seemed like an idea at the time though

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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From my experience the last time i ran barrage on a hero, they usually spam them when mobs group together. They almost never use it on single targets.
Things might change now, but thats what i experienced few months ago.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
From my experience the last time i ran barrage on a hero, they usually spam them when mobs group together. They almost never use it on single targets.
That was what I experienced too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrokian
oops forgot bout that part.seemed like an idea at the time though You can use Poison Tip Signet with Barrage or Volley though since Poison Tip Signet is not a preparation, but only the first arrow that hits would induce poison.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...

~Super Igor ~

Nyktos

Nyktos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Nyktos Guild [win]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...

~Super Igor ~ Heroes use Magebane to interrupt wanding.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
Totally inferior to every other ranger bow elite on heroes...

~Super Igor ~ u stupid?

barrrage is the best damage option rangers have

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
u stupid?

barrrage is the best damage option rangers have may be not on heroes, becoz they dunno how to splitter it/spam it as well as human. I use ranger hero mainly as interrupt or condition spreading. Ele hero would do much higher damage I think.

High Moral

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

Barrage+Splinter+Ancestor 2 interupts on hero works SUPER good.

He tend to give you the splinter, but combine it with a friend running SABWAY, then everyone have splinter..
oh splinter.. splinter looooove splinter loooover.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by High Moral
Barrage+Splinter+Ancestor 2 interupts on hero works SUPER good.

He tend to give you the splinter, but combine it with a friend running SABWAY, then everyone have splinter..
oh splinter.. splinter looooove splinter loooover. And that is why they nerfed the Splinter+Barrage combination. Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack. Sabway Splinter can only trigger for 4 hits even though Barrage can potentially hit more adjacent foes than that.

It is still good but not as godly as before. Personally, I prefer Warmonger's weapon with Barrage but maybe that is just me.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

If you're going to bring splinter/ancestors put it on the necro/rit or something. They have no awareness about who to put the splinter on.

In my experience heroes tend to get stuck in normal attack. When you barrage, whatever the bow, there's a time when you can start a normal attack while barrage is recharging. Players cancel the attack by hitting barrage again, heroes don't.

Solution: add volley. They will go right from barrage into volley and back again, alternating endlessly. This would be wasteful on a human bar, but then these guys aren't human and are just wasting that second attack anyway.

In EotN aidan actually uses this trick.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

I rarely take a Ranger, if I do, it's just to add a little variety to the game, but Jin seems to use Splinter/Barrage quite well. Even so, your Ranger Hero is never going to be considered one of your big dmg heroes. If they are, you must not be using your Nec and Ele heroes correctly.

Boneyard Spleeneater

Boneyard Spleeneater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seattle

Immortal Corruptors [GWAR]

Me/N

I use barrage with a Fiery bow on Margrid. With 1-2 SF eles, it keeps the fires burning. Especially if you call your targets right.

I usually bring her along instead of a MM when I will be someplace short on corpses.The rest of her skills tend to be defensive, although I always carry 2-3 interrupts on her. Not sure how well she uses them though...

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrokian
oops forgot bout that part.seemed like an idea at the time though
It sure is, that is likely why Barrage removes preps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack. Afaik it did always was like that, at least with other skills that trigger 'on-attack'. A relevant note on wiki dates back to januari of 2006

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
And that is why they nerfed the Splinter+Barrage combination. Each hit for Barrage now counts as a seperate attack. Ha. Nice joke. After SW's buff, they didn't touch it for 5-6 months. Why? Because it was used in PvE and not so often. But they nerfed it because of GvG changes, as everyone used splinter weapon to wtf pwn npc's at VoD.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Barrage is inferior, dont use it...

~Super Igor ~

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
Barrage is inferior, dont use it...

~Super Igor ~ barrage is superior. this is a fact known by most players.

please post with some information instead of statements that make no sense.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

Ignore Super Igor, he is farming forum titles. Look at his join date and his post history - all 2-4 word responses, usually of little relevance. I reported him, hopefully he will be deleted.

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Ha. Nice joke. After SW's buff, they didn't touch it for 5-6 months. Why? Because it was used in PvE and not so often. But they nerfed it because of GvG changes, as everyone used splinter weapon to wtf pwn npc's at VoD. They nerfed [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] into

For 20 seconds, target ally has a Splinter Weapon. Target ally's next successful 1...4 attack(s) deal(s) [sic] 5...41 damage to up to 3 adjacent foes.

Notice the difference between the skill description when you place your cursor on top of the skill icon, and the current description. Splinter Weapon damage used to affect all adjacent foes but now it is limited to 3 adjacent foes. Barrage hits up to 6 adjacents foes to your target, so like I said, the Splinter-Barrage combination used to be more powerful than it is now.