First off, I wasn’t sure where to put this, so I put it here since I saw other threads about drops. Also, this is not about farming, but about drops.
My curiosity comes from the fact that over this past weekend, I did a three man FoW clear with heroes, and the number of obsidian shard drops was two. I mean the three of us did all eleven quests, spawned the FoW chest, and the number of obsidian shards dropped outside of the final chest was two. Granted, we did NOT do this for the obsidian shards (please understand that before you reply stating I should go farm somewhere else), but rather just to do it for the sake of doing it. I just assumed going in that more then two obsidian shards should drop, I was just surprised it was only two; I mean that’s what the FoW is known for.
Since I never tried to farm the FOW for shards personally, I was wondering if those that do are seeing fewer drops of shards. Feel free to post your thoughts, and let me know if this has happened to you. Again, I don’t care that much there were only two, just more curious on why there was only two.
FoW Obsidian Shard Drops
Esoteric Mesmer
Arkantos
Out of the 6 8-man HM FoW clears I've done in the past few days, there were at least 30 shards that dropped all together, probably more. I'm guessing it has something to do with loot scaling.
Angelic Upstart
I used to get plenty when i used to solo the beach regularly.. havent been down there for ages so i dont know what its like now.
zerulus
Considering heroes made up majority of your party it isnt surprising that you're drops were low.
enxa
I recently went with a full party of 8 alliancemates, in normal mode, and everyone got at least two shards, and at least 4 of us had 3 shards at the end.
No farming just doing quests.
No farming just doing quests.
Esoteric Mesmer
All good points, I guess I just had this false illusion that obsidian shards just rained down in the FoW lol. I also wonder though if the chocolate bunnies and golden eggs that dropped threw off the loot? We each got about 20 of each one.
Kyomi Tachibana
I did FoW NM clear with a guildie+heroes, and we each got one shard, from the end chest. *pushes Hayda, Morgahn, Dunkoro, MoW, Livia, and Olias off a cliff discreetly* I was not happy.
Dronte
I got 5 shards in one FoW HM run (only quests) yesterday.
Ofc, happened before that I got only 2 shards.
Ofc, happened before that I got only 2 shards.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Out of the 6 8-man HM FoW clears I've done in the past few days, there were at least 30 shards that dropped all together, probably more. I'm guessing it has something to do with loot scaling.
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Johny bravo
bunnies and eggs are additional drops attached to the foe. So a foe will still drop what he normally would and in addition to that may drop and egg or bunny. So this doesn't effect drop rates
Malice Black
I always get 3-5 in a 8 man questing group.
Sir Pandra Pierva
i still solo the beach and cave. i get about 4-5 drops per run and on 2 man heroway fow with my friend we get a total of about 10 drops between us.
Covah
each henchman halves your drop rate. Heroes I'm guessing do the same. if you open the quest reward chests with heroes present most of the time you won't get anything. If you flag them away and then open it you should get something.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Covah
each henchman halves your drop rate. Heroes I'm guessing do the same. if you open the quest reward chests with heroes present most of the time you won't get anything. If you flag them away and then open it you should get something.
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Tarkin
From my exp in Fow...
0 <> 6 shards for someone is normal in a fow run
You only have bad luck in this run... i forget how many times i get 5 6 7 shards and the others in the team get 1 2 0... and how many times i get 0 and the others 2 3 4 5 shards...
0 <> 6 shards for someone is normal in a fow run
You only have bad luck in this run... i forget how many times i get 5 6 7 shards and the others in the team get 1 2 0... and how many times i get 0 and the others 2 3 4 5 shards...
Witchblade
Did one last week, 2 ppl + 6 heroes nm
16 shards drop
16 shards drop
VitisVinifera
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Originally Posted by Covah
each henchman halves your drop rate. Heroes I'm guessing do the same. if you open the quest reward chests with heroes present most of the time you won't get anything. If you flag them away and then open it you should get something.
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each hench/hero decreases the drop rate only as much as 1 person does, so a combination of 4 heroes & hench would decrease the drop rate by half if the other 4 were ppl
upier
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Originally Posted by Tarkin
From my exp in Fow...
0 <> 6 shards for someone is normal in a fow run You only have bad luck in this run... i forget how many times i get 5 6 7 shards and the others in the team get 1 2 0... and how many times i get 0 and the others 2 3 4 5 shards... |
Seriously - the times me and my guildies did FoW and UW questing or just farming - it pretty much always ended up with the guildies giving me a share of their gems so I wouldn't sit in a corner and cry ....
Must be a cursed account of something ...
Some people are lucky - and some of us aren't.
Good thing I have my stunning looks to fall back on!
Jetdoc
I did an FoW clear last night, and three of us received a grand total of 2 shard drops. The remaining five got probably 14-15 shard drops.
Sounds like the roll of the dice went in favor of your heroes, and not the real players this go round.
Sounds like the roll of the dice went in favor of your heroes, and not the real players this go round.
jinkas
I've always wished that I could see the drops that were assigned to my H/H. I wonder how many 100k+ecto drops Devona has grabbed and quietly kept for herself across my many hours of playing.
hurric
you're lucky. I've gotten 1 shard (the last one from chest) when we had heros. (happened on more than one occasion). it sucks! but i'm used to it. I don't expect anything to drop for me. others may be luckier.
Skyy High
I just did a FoW clear in NM last week with a friend (2 man 6 hero). He got 7 shards total, I got 2. Little annoying seeing the 5th shard drop assigned to him, but the overall rates seemed fine.
Lady Lozza
Uhm, can we take hech into FoW/UW? I thought not, so I doubt Devona would have stolen any ecto... Livia on the other hand...
Yeah this really is just a case of the dice not favouring the OP. Most of the time I get 3 shards (for me) dropped from a FoW clear. It's about 2-3 per team member, on average.
Having said that there have been times when shards were raining down, one lucky guildie came out with 12 dropped for him, the next highest was 5 or 6, and the rest just got the average 2-3.
It's the same with ecto really. Sometimes you get 10 drop (teamwide) and other times you can clear and get nothing.
Yeah this really is just a case of the dice not favouring the OP. Most of the time I get 3 shards (for me) dropped from a FoW clear. It's about 2-3 per team member, on average.
Having said that there have been times when shards were raining down, one lucky guildie came out with 12 dropped for him, the next highest was 5 or 6, and the rest just got the average 2-3.
It's the same with ecto really. Sometimes you get 10 drop (teamwide) and other times you can clear and get nothing.
[email protected]
i have to buy the damn runes for my heroes, buy them weapons too...
all their drops should belong to me!
all their drops should belong to me!
Aera Lure
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Originally Posted by Esoteric Mesmer
All good points, I guess I just had this false illusion that obsidian shards just rained down in the FoW lol.
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It was just my drop area, my happy zone, since trust me, things didnt drop for me like that everywhere.That was a while ago though.
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by Covah
each henchman halves your drop rate. Heroes I'm guessing do the same. if you open the quest reward chests with heroes present most of the time you won't get anything. If you flag them away and then open it you should get something.
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Julia-Louis Dreyfus
how is this a myth? its fact, you share loot with EVERYONE in your party, be it hench, heroes, or other players
TideSwayer
The real problem my guildies and I are having with FOW lately is the amount of FOW scroll drops we're getting out of the end chest. We did a run last night and 3 of us got double scroll drops. One of my guildies has gotten double scroll drops from his last 3-4 FOW runs! That's BS. Drops from the end chest should be changed so you can't ever get more than one FOW scroll.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I'm guessing it has something to do with loot scaling.
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Joe L.
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Originally Posted by Esoteric Mesmer
All good points, I guess I just had this false illusion that obsidian shards just rained down in the FoW lol. I also wonder though if the chocolate bunnies and golden eggs that dropped threw off the loot? We each got about 20 of each one.
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Say normally: Monster A has x amount of drops, and 15%(x) are rare, do the event items add to the total possible (x+eventitems) so the 15% remains unchanged, so it just seems like less golds in the face of massive event items drops, or do event items, say 50%, replace existing drops thus lowering the rare-rate to 7.5%?
Mr. Undisclosed
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Originally Posted by Julia-Louis Dreyfus
how is this a myth? its fact, you share loot with EVERYONE in your party, be it hench, heroes, or other players
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Arduin
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This is an issue that has me curious as well. I've noticed seemingly less rare drops during events, and I wonder if the event items, though they have an increased drop rate, are added to each areas/monsters drops, or if they replace some of the normal drops.
Say normally: Monster A has x amount of drops, and 15%(x) are rare, do the event items add to the total possible (x+eventitems) so the 15% remains unchanged, so it just seems like less golds in the face of massive event items drops, or do event items, say 50%, replace existing drops thus lowering the rare-rate to 7.5%? |
If this is to be tested, a log should be kept about an entire weekend of hardcore farming during an event and the same amount of farming during a normal weekend. Who volunteers
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Seef II
NM cleared today with humans... think most of us ended with 1-3 each.
beanerman_99
I did my first clearing of FoW last night with some folks on the German Server. Shards were dropping like crazy. I had 6 before we opened the end chest. Some guys got fewer, but I don't think anyone walked away with less than 4. Some lucky S.O.B. named jabon or something had over 9 before the chest.
Plus I really don't thing the added holiday items affect drops in any way...Meaning you don't get a bunny instead of a shard or weapon or anything else. They are just tacked on to what the monster was going to drop for you. They drop the items+ a bonus chance of egg/bunny.
Plus I really don't thing the added holiday items affect drops in any way...Meaning you don't get a bunny instead of a shard or weapon or anything else. They are just tacked on to what the monster was going to drop for you. They drop the items+ a bonus chance of egg/bunny.
payne
1 forge run 9 drops...just me and 3 heroes!
stretchs
We had a guild group over the weekend clear FoW. 3 of us got 3 shards, the rest got 2, then a couple of us got 2 from the end chest. So 2 ended up with 5 and 2 ended up with 4. Of course we only ended up with 1 player that got any kind of weapon from the end chest though =\ And it was a q13 tact shield =\
Joe L.
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Originally Posted by stretchs
We had a guild group over the weekend clear FoW. 3 of us got 3 shards, the rest got 2, then a couple of us got 2 from the end chest. So 2 ended up with 5 and 2 ended up with 4. Of course we only ended up with 1 player that got any kind of weapon from the end chest though =\ And it was a q13 tact shield =\
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enter_the_zone
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Originally Posted by upier
Welcome to my world of pretty much constant 0.
Seriously - the times me and my guildies did FoW and UW questing or just farming - it pretty much always ended up with the guildies giving me a share of their gems so I wouldn't sit in a corner and cry .... Must be a cursed account of something ... Some people are lucky - and some of us aren't. Good thing I have my stunning looks to fall back on! |
Trub
Hmm...The first time I looked into this thread..it made me curious.
Over the last 6 runs..I have recieved a minimum of 5 shards per a full clear (HM)(ritualist)
And the others on my team were lucky to get 1-3.
I wonder if the AR has something to do with it?..or HP?
Over the last 6 runs..I have recieved a minimum of 5 shards per a full clear (HM)(ritualist)
And the others on my team were lucky to get 1-3.
I wonder if the AR has something to do with it?..or HP?
StormDragonZ
For the few times, yes few... as in less than 10, that I have been in the FoW, I've seen no change with the amount the party has seen drop. So I'm not the best to account for, but with a lack of being in the FoW, it still hasn't changed that much for shard drops.