W/Mo, Good Starting Class?

Paladins are strong They are fierce warriors! I created my W/Mo in order to become one. I was so disappointed to find out that they don't exist.

No but Purge Conditions and Mend Ailment are aswell as Purge Signet. Purge Condition is awesome except that its recharge is too long. Mend Ailment only removes one condition. Purge Signet takes too long to cast and will drain your energy dry, its recharge is also bad. Sigh, I really wish I had NF.

Purge Condition is awesome except that its recharge is too long. Mend Ailment only removes one condition. Purge Signet takes too long to cast and will drain your energy dry, its recharge is also bad. Sigh, I really wish I had NF. They are both fine as they are and one heals for a small amount.Droks runnners use to or still use Purge Conditions.

They are both fine as they are and one heals for a small amount.Droks runnners use to or still use Purge Conditions. I guess purge condition and mend ailment are still usable. But definitely not purge signet.

I guess purge condition and mend ailment are still usable. But definitely not purge signet. If there was a place where there were alot of long recharge hexes/conditions thrown at you, Purge Signet isn't as horrible as it sounds. As long as you aren't running many energy skills (if you have FGJ or something, for example), then you can just use them first or if you can't just swap to a zealous for a few seconds.

It didn't make sense because you're using only one example of someone telling a player their build is complete trash.

If a player is asking about learning tactics or how to better play an area or the game in general with a warrior, having a shitty bar will teach them nothing but shittyness. Running a much more efficient bar will allow them to do the role they are trying to get at, while having more time to focus on learning the tactical plays most decent warriors are known for.

This is my point. You're saying that I should not give advice, apart from giving the best advice about the most powerful build. And seeing as this (the most powerful/best build) manifests itself in one form (I suppose it would be a Dragon Slash/"Save Yourselves!" build) you may as well just post that build. But then what would be the point of the thread, why not just remove the warrior forum and replace it with a list of acceptable builds.
I was just suggesting some builds/ideas that I found found to be reasonably effective and really fun, but this is not allowed because all the eliteists say "That is crap compared to *Insert 1337 build here*" Which I already know, and most other people know it too, so why bother to say it over and over and over and over.

I get really bored of people attitudes to posting builds. It seems that you are only allowed to post certain *LEET* builds on the forum, why not just put a sticky up with the "best" builds and then let the rest of us (or is it just me) get on with posting fun/new/different ideas.


I am sorry that my previous post was difficult to understand, as probably is this one, but I am just writing as I'm thinking so it might not come out right.


~A Leprechaun~

You could also throw on essence bond to regain energy back. Or Balthazars' Spirit to gain adrenaline aswell, but both are crap unless farming with.
Zealous weapons should be beyond emanagement for a Warrior.

No they are not as in melee you will be gaining energy and if the OP is using energy based skills.I recommended essence bond so no points in smiting. You don't require points in Smiting Prayers for it to work.
Not sure about the adrenaline gain, though -- but you can use your leftover attribs for it.

Besides -- EB and BS are quite conditional, and last time I checked the AI usually goes for weaker targets first.

And then if you're using energy attack skills (which you shouldn't unless it's Bull's Strike, Distracting Strike) don't forget you only have 1 pip of energy regeneration.

please no essence bond or balth spirit warriors i want those to die hard. if you want energy managment try flurry with a zelous i found that owns the crap out of the monk energy gains. Or Frenzy/Flail if you want a decent IAS which doesn't gimp your damage output...

1 or 2 points in smiting certianly helps if they are all energy based skills.I 55 farm I know what 1 pip of energy does.He could just use plain Warriors Endurance to regian the energy back. What's 55'ing got to do with Warriors?
55hp is a SOLO build, which means the aggro will be on you, which means it's viable energy management for that farm.

In a full team with you being the Warrior, the mob AI goes for the weaker targets first, which means not you.

I'll say it again -- Zealous weapon > energy problems on a Warrior, Dervish, 'Sin, Ranger, Paragon (Granted you shouldn't need it on either a 'Sin, a Paragon or a Ranger.) because you should be in the frontline anyway.

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which is GUDE I find that everything that uses SI is in a group and has a few cover hexes. Considering Holy Veil has twice the recharge of SI, HV isn't going to do too much, even if you pre cast it and all that.

Whatever.To Sir Tidus just use purge conditions and later on mend ailment if you decide on the signet just don't spam your attack skills.You could also use radiant insignias to increase you mana pool. I'l say it again. If you've got a spammable attack skill, if you're not spamming it you're not using it to it's potential, and might as well run an adrenal attack because it's cheaper.

And Radiant Insignias suck, unless you're running Shock on your bar.

There is nothing wrong with Radiants as I have them on my 15K Galdiators There is nothing wrong with mending as i have it on my warrior's bar.

I'l say it again. If you've got a spammable attack skill, if you're not spamming it you're not using it to it's potential, and might as well run an adrenal attack because it's cheaper. Adrenaline attack skills can't be spammed anyway, so don't waste my time with PMing me with some crap when you're blaring out your own idiocy by using things like 55hp Monks in a WARRIOR GENERAL PvE FORUM.
And you can change the insignias on your armour if you bought them pre-update. It doesn't make Radiant Insignias good, but anything works in PvE anyway.