Axe
Terrokian
Ok seen alot of debate on axe vs sword vs hammer.My question is(because I see alot of variant axe builds) which axe build REALLT kicks the hiney?Now I'm sure this has been hashed out before,but I'm new to the game and want to know.Thank You in advance for your input on this.
Marty Silverblade
For spiking in PvP and general PvE, go for Shock Axe.
[card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Disrupting Chop[/card][card]Bull's Strike[/card][card]Shock[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Rush[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
That's the PvP template (some people swap Executioners for [wiki]Body Blow[/wiki]), so you'll have to make some changes for PvE (well you don't HAVE to, but it's generally a good idea). I'd drop Frenzy and Rush for Flail and some utility/abusive PvE only skill. Bull's Strike isn't really needed (snaring in PvE is less effective than just beating them to bits), I'd replace it with another attack. Keep Disrupting Chop if you want the interrupt or swap it for a different one, whatever.
Just follow the general Warrior build template:
Elite attack
Attack
Attack
Attack/Utility
IAS
Cancel Stance/Utility
Selfheal/utility
Rez
You could run an AoE sort of thing, but it's efficiency depends on how well you can bunch up the enemies.
[card]Triple Chop[/card][card]Cyclone Axe[/card][wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card] + 2 optional/utility. Zealous Axes are a must with this. Splinter Weapon is better if you have a Rit cast it, but if that's not an option you'll have to do it yourself.
[card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Disrupting Chop[/card][card]Bull's Strike[/card][card]Shock[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Rush[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
That's the PvP template (some people swap Executioners for [wiki]Body Blow[/wiki]), so you'll have to make some changes for PvE (well you don't HAVE to, but it's generally a good idea). I'd drop Frenzy and Rush for Flail and some utility/abusive PvE only skill. Bull's Strike isn't really needed (snaring in PvE is less effective than just beating them to bits), I'd replace it with another attack. Keep Disrupting Chop if you want the interrupt or swap it for a different one, whatever.
Just follow the general Warrior build template:
Elite attack
Attack
Attack
Attack/Utility
IAS
Cancel Stance/Utility
Selfheal/utility
Rez
You could run an AoE sort of thing, but it's efficiency depends on how well you can bunch up the enemies.
[card]Triple Chop[/card][card]Cyclone Axe[/card][wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card] + 2 optional/utility. Zealous Axes are a must with this. Splinter Weapon is better if you have a Rit cast it, but if that's not an option you'll have to do it yourself.
Trvth Jvstice
Axe is best at dishing out the best spike damage. Sword is best for damage per second. Hammer is great for shutting down an enemy and generally disrupting a mob. If you're playing PVE and want to be as effective as you can, I'd go with a sword W/P D Slash, Save Yourselves build. If you want to do really good damage and have TONS of fun, go hammer. If you want to be able to take out a single enemy as quickly as possible, go axe Eviscerate, Executioner's Strike.
Albert Algorn
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Bront
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
[card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Disrupting Chop[/card][card]Bull's Strike[/card][card]Shock[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Rush[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
That's the PvP template (some people swap Executioners for [wiki]Body Blow[/wiki]), so you'll have to make some changes for PvE (well you don't HAVE to, but it's generally a good idea). I'd drop Frenzy and Rush for Flail and some utility/abusive PvE only skill. Bull's Strike isn't really needed (snaring in PvE is less effective than just beating them to bits), I'd replace it with another attack. Keep Disrupting Chop if you want the interrupt or swap it for a different one, whatever.
Just follow the general Warrior build template:
Elite attack
Attack
Attack
Attack/Utility
IAS
Cancel Stance/Utility
Selfheal/utility
Rez
You could run an AoE sort of thing, but it's efficiency depends on how well you can bunch up the enemies.
[card]Triple Chop[/card][card]Cyclone Axe[/card][wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card] + 2 optional/utility. Zealous Axes are a must with this. Splinter Weapon is better if you have a Rit cast it, but if that's not an option you'll have to do it yourself.
As for Splinter Weapon, having a hero with it (Either a Rt or N/Rt) works well, as they throw it on front liners effectively. I found it quite worth while on my MM bomber build (It works on Minions too), and forgot about it till I started ripping though opponents myself till I noticed why. It really is a must have on a Hero for a warrior. I just wish they'd use it on my Barrage Ranger.
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
Axe is best at dishing out the best spike damage. Sword is best for damage per second. Hammer is great for shutting down an enemy and generally disrupting a mob. If you're playing PVE and want to be as effective as you can, I'd go with a sword W/P D Slash, Save Yourselves build. If you want to do really good damage and have TONS of fun, go hammer. If you want to be able to take out a single enemy as quickly as possible, go axe Eviscerate, Executioner's Strike.
Yeah, if you want to do "Tank n Spank", Hammer looks like a good bet. Aggro a group, knock them down, let the nukers nuke while they can't run. Just don't fall into the "Tank" mentality with too much defense.
ccruzp
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
Axe is best at dishing out the best spike damage. Sword is best for damage per second.
From the Warrior PvE stick wich the op would do good to read:
axe beat swords in dps, and those numbers were taken hiting a stationary target, you get way more dmg in a pvp enviroment for several reasons i wont post for the sake of lazyness. To the OP: Shock Axe is probably the best PvP(my favorite at least) axe build as suggested by Marty Silverblade but i would never take it to pve, for only 5 more enrgy and no exaustion in pve take "You Move Like a Dwarf!" if you need energy-based kd. If you are looking for pve builds ild go Sword w/ the cookie cutter W/P DS/SY but anything works for pve rly.
Marty Silverblade
Axe beats sword DPS wise when you're not taking skills into account. Note that other than Final Thrust, there really isn't much you can spike with (as opposed to skills like DSlash, which you can spam all day long). No unconditional Deep Wound hurts alot in spiking, and so Eviscerate -> Executioners/Body Blow is better spike-wise.
Terrokian
Me
W Axe Mastery 12+1+1 Strength 12+1 [wiki]"You Move Like a Dwarf!"[/wiki][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill] After all the input I find I'm really liking this for my skill bar.Quick easy PvE killing.
I D E L E T E D I
That bar looks fine to me imo.
But then again i am lazy and cba to change my shock axe bar from pvp ^^
Sir Pandra Pierva
i actually play sin style warrior on mine sometimes for shits and giggles.
I think its a gvg spike build [skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Body Blow[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Death's Charge[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] oddly enough with 2 warriors running that with heros in The Grand Court mission we beat it 5 min. I'll find the SS of that. ccruzp
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Axe beats sword DPS wise when you're not taking skills into account.
Taking skills into account is kinda of pointless, to many variation as to wich skills, number of skills, adren required... you can come up w/ a build that will deal more dps on a sword using 3 skill slots then a whole bar w/ a axe and vice versa. I only said that axes were better dps cuz every time i hear DPS i think about auto-attack preasure, excuse me if i didnt made myself clear =).
halcyonbiscuit
Sword wins because I can't use a leet fiery dragon axe.
Nightmares Hammer
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Originally Posted by halcyonbiscuit
OP: [skill]Triple Chop[/skill] wins PvE. [skill]Eviscerate[/skill] wins PvP.
Trvth Jvstice
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Originally Posted by ccruzp
Taking skills into account is kinda of pointless, to many variation as to which skills, number of skills, adren required... you can come up w/ a build that will deal more dps on a sword using 3 skill slots then a whole bar w/ a axe and vice versa. I only said that axes were better dps cuz every time i hear DPS i think about auto-attack pressure, excuse me if i didn't made myself clear =).
The OP specifically mentions Builds in his post-And if you're going to compare dps between Axe and Sword you have to compare which has the highest dps with the best possible build and include dps while auto-attacking. That said, I believe there is no dispute as to which build has the highest dps in PVE--Sword- D Slash W/P Godmode and the highest spike dmg--Axe- Eviscerate/Executione's Strike.
EDIT: Nightmares Hammer, good catch on the Fiery Blade Axe Leetwalrushunter
Axe wins because it does everything best
Terrokian
At moment sticking with my Deep Wound attacks,but was curious how exactly do you crack an opponents armor?
[wiki]Body Blow[/wiki] Never mind did a wiki on cracked armor.-20 armor on an opponent is a nice thing,but you would have to get [wiki]"Finish Him!"[/wiki] to take full advantage of [wiki]Body Blow[/wiki]
Savio
With the skills listed at [wiki]Cracked Armor[/wiki].
Trvth Jvstice
Terribly off topic but: My Nec and my Curse Nec hero always carries [skill=text]Weaken Armor[/skill]. I haven't tried Body Blow, but I may give it a try.
Scary Raebbit
Body Blow usually replaces Executioner's since it is two less damage, but one less adrenaline at 13 Strength. (That sounds awkward).
Jam Jar
Axe is good for spiking since their attacks can be chained together very well. Eviscerate starts off the deep wound, but gives you damage as well, which can be chained possibly with an axe rake. A W/N MIGHT be:
Eviscerate Axe Rake Executioner's Strike Frenzy Rush Healing Signet Plague Touch Ressurection Signet
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Jam Jar
Eviscerate starts off the deep wound, but gives you damage as well, which can be chained possibly with an axe rake.
Bull's Strike is a much better snare than Rake will ever be.
And if you're spiking a target with Evis, chances are they're snared or KD'd anyway, making Axe Rake a piddling attack with no real purpose. Rake is pretty laughable in practise.
LightningHell
Generally you would want to follow Eviscerate with Executioner's Strike. A spike is intended to be damage compression; Axe Rake doesn't allow that. Instead, it does a job that with any luck you already should HAVE done - snaring the opponent.
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