optimal assassin weapon

bibliotheek357

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

What are the best daggers for an assassin? I use a build that includes bleeding and poison, and i already have droknars knives. But would a weapon with all the same buffs and an inscription be even better? My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

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In PvE, zealous
also move this to the assassin forums, where we also have an on-going "best sin build" discussion.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Vampiric/Zealous, 15^50, +30, customized.

Done.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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If you say 'weapon' and not just daggers... then I'll go for a +20% armor penetration hornbow.

You can do wonders with one of those and a correct build.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Weapon switching is /win.

Zealous 15^50 +30hp
Vamp 15^50 +30hp
Elemental 15^50 +30hp
and a set with +5energy for emergencies/DP

Mork from Ork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Vampiric/Zealous, 15^50, +30, customized.

Done.
The problem with 15^50, though, is that it is only 15% of the base dmg and daggers have really low base dmg of 7-17. So you are really only getting 2.5 extra dmg per hit max. (Even with the higher chance of a double hit high crit gives you, I'm not sure it's worth it)

Overall - I think I prefer the +5 energy inscription since it gives me a little more room to set up protection skills or get my first attack string off without worrying about energy.

As a general rule I also prefer +20% enchanting instead of +30 health since I'm usually depending more on enchants than my armor or hp to keep me alive.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Weapon switching is /win.

Zealous 15^50 +30hp
Vamp 15^50 +30hp
Elemental 15^50 +30hp
and a set with +5energy for emergencies/DP

/agreed

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

zealous +5e +5al

flettir

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Kabal of the Righteous [Seed]

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I don't believe in 15^50 for sins.
woot, i get 15% more damage off my uber 7-17!
that adds 1.05-2.55 damage.
Personally, I prefer a +5e mod on assassins, the extra energy comes in handy very often.
And yes, zealous +30 for pve, or maybe 20% ench depending on the build.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Zealous 15^50 +5AL
Vamp 15^50 +5AL
Elemental 15^50 +AL
Longbow/Flatbow

(And if you're willing to spend the inventory space, keep some +30hp and +5e ones in your inventory in case of big DP.)

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bibliotheek357
What are the best daggers for an assassin? I use a build that includes bleeding and poison, and i already have droknars knives. But would a weapon with all the same buffs and an inscription be even better? My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..
Silly Rabbit, you've asked the question that simply can't be answered. The best weapon for your build is what you think it is. Some people swear by +AL, some by +HP. Some like sundering, others like vampiric. The best idea for you is to look at your build(s) and decide what would work best for them.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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I would say zealous +5 energy and +5/7 armro cause face it sins got much to little armor to be front liners.

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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I'd say the only thing that's absolutely mandatory for a good set of assassin daggers is a zealous mod.

Honestly, with a half decent crit rate a zealous mod>all your energy issues

use any kind of IAS on top of that and you'll wonder why any assassin would ever need to even look at their energy bar.

aside from that the rest is more personal choice, +hp, +armor, or w/e +dmg% you like.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

As with all these discussions, the difference between one damage type and the other is minimal at best. Use whatever you want and what "fits" your build. Ignore all the posts that say this or that sux or that you must use this or that.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

also
Droks knives cant be upgraded with an inscription, but they have one built in...
so they are not "worse" per say than another max daggers of same stats with inscription

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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set 1: Daggers: Vampiric, 15^50, +30
set 2: Daggers: Zealous, 15^50, +30
set 3: Daggers: Element, +5 energy, +20% enchant *if you don't have a solo build at all and don't plan to get one, then use +30*
set 4: Flat bow: 20/20, 15^50, +30

For PvE, thats my opinion

McMullen

McMullen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/W

Also, avoid sundering mods for daggers.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by McMullen
Also, avoid sundering mods for everything.
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Food

Food

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

in america

Team Flawless [oRLy]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
If you say 'weapon' and not just daggers... then I'll go for a +20% armor penetration hornbow.

You can do wonders with one of those and a correct build.
Lol, are you semi-retarded or just plain stupid? Hornbows are the worst weapon in the game, I know that some scrubs may disagree and insist that 10% penatration is life changing. Don't listen to this guy.

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mallyx's pimped out Crib

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this is a lil late but:
Weapon Set 1 : E+5 Vamp 20%/+30
Weapon Set 2 : E+5 Zealous 20%/+30
Weapon Set 3 : E+5 Elemental 20%/+30
Weapon Set 4 : Casters Wep + Shield

gerlin

gerlin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

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1 vamp 15^50 +30
2 zealous 15^50 +30
3 zealous +5 20% enchant
4 casterweapon + focus/shield
5 elemental 15¨50 +30
6 zealous bow +30
You'll want a nr. 3 when you solo farm with certain sin builds. And nr.6 is for crit barrage and luring.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by bibliotheek357
My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..
Btw, there is a weapons guy in the same place (end-game of Prophecies), that can craft you the same weapons (skins) as the greens. They're gold with an inscription slot, so if you really like the Droknar's, you just need to do the last mission again and take the materials and gold with you to buy another set.