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the_last_m_p

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27 Mar 2008 at 22:47 - 1

Over the past few months, those of us actively playing Guild Wars would have noticed a trend - every Thursday some aspect of the game gets nerfed (for good or bad is for you to decide). I have grown accustomed to reading flames from the users who ha their favourite build/farming destroyed by an update.
Thursday Nerf is occasionally later followed by the mitigating damage update, trying to deal with the complaints from the (mainly) PvE community while keeping the PvP'ers happy.
It is a nice weekly "event" that is often more fun then the by now normal weekend events of double something or other.
Imagine my shock when this week we got..... NOTHING

Some will ask, what is the point of this thread and I am getting to it - did anyone else notice the Thursday Nerf trend and do you think ANet should make it official or should they stop changing the game and let us play already?

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

27 Mar 2008 at 22:48 - 2

ya cause you know theres been so many nerfs

(hint: there's proportionally way more buffs than nerfs)

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

27 Mar 2008 at 22:50 - 3

There was nothing to complain about today so you decided to make something out of thin air. Right?

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

27 Mar 2008 at 22:52 - 4

I'm sure this week will get skipped, but next week we'll get double the nerfs:

For example, there is a strong chance [skill]Healing Breeze[/skill] will get nerfed.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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27 Mar 2008 at 22:52 - 5

Eh... so... you complain because they nerfed the nerfs? O_o...

If I could fell pain my head would hurt... If I had a head.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

27 Mar 2008 at 22:58 - 6

Where's my thursday "QQ OSHIT ANET NERFED THE HELL OUT OF MY GAME EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HELL" thread?

Not here?

Thank goodness.

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

27 Mar 2008 at 22:58 - 7

now people are asking for weekly nerf... i'm scared^^

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

27 Mar 2008 at 23:04 - 8

Din't you see the unannounced nerf to Ursan blessing?

It's a trap

Stormlord Alex

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:04 - 9

OP - I recommend a nice long walk.

Find a quiet riverbank, watch the sun set and listen to the birds sing their evening serenade as the bubbling river washes away all your worries.

It's good.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:07 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_last_m_p

Over the past few months, those of us actively playing Guild Wars would have noticed a trend - every Thursday some aspect of the game gets nerfed (for good or bad is for you to decide). I have grown accustomed to reading flames from the users who ha their favourite build/farming destroyed by an update.
Thursday Nerf is occasionally later followed by the mitigating damage update, trying to deal with the complaints from the (mainly) PvE community while keeping the PvP'ers happy.
It is a nice weekly "event" that is often more fun then the by now normal weekend events of double something or other.
Imagine my shock when this week we got..... NOTHING

Some will ask, what is the point of this thread and I am getting to it - did anyone else notice the Thursday Nerf trend and do you think ANet should make it official or should they stop changing the game and let us play already?

Easy now, it's still office hours over on the Pacific coast.

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

27 Mar 2008 at 23:09 - 11

I wonder if Anet nerfed a useless skill like [skill]Spirit Siphon[/skill], if anyone would /ragequit?

Neo Nugget

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:13 - 12

Maybe there is something in there that doesn't relate to skills.

Something interesting.

the_last_m_p

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

27 Mar 2008 at 23:13 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Eh... so... you complain because they nerfed the nerfs? O_o...

If I could fell pain my head would hurt... If I had a head.

Just think about adding some stability to the game

We had weekend events occuring randomly at first, then they started to become more regular and finally found their place on, well... weekend, pretty much every one.

So wouldn't it be nice for the updates to the game to occur less out of the blue as well? I know just how annoying sudden updates can be to someone, who, for example, is levelling his legendary defender in presearing, since they mean that within a few hours your char gets kicked off the server, and you cannot use the reconnect tirck (kill process and use reconnection) to continue on.

So the question isn't as much is it nerf or not (Thursday Nerf DOES sound better then Thursday Update, no?), but rather, would it benefit the game if people could at least know when to expect the update. The quick and dirty fixes for exploits will still have to come as soon as possible, but at least we will have better idea of when to expect more standard rebalancing.

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

27 Mar 2008 at 23:16 - 14

stealth update + nerf imo

seeya tomorrow for the usual but delayed QQ thread ^^

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

27 Mar 2008 at 23:17 - 15

Awww MAN! They nerfed URSAN!!!!

j/k

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

27 Mar 2008 at 23:19 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

OP - I recommend a nice long walk.

Find a quiet riverbank, watch the sun set and listen to the birds sing their evening serenade as the bubbling river washes away all your worries.

It's good.

were you telling him to kill himself or am i reading too deeply into this?

Stormlord Alex

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:23 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Miken

were you telling him to kill himself or am i reading too deeply into this?

If I was hinting at suicide, I would've emphasised wearing concrete shoes

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

27 Mar 2008 at 23:24 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

Awww MAN! They nerfed URSAN!!!!

j/k

<-crossing fingers, wanna seea really funny thread about this tomorrow

Best idea for April Fools imo

Big_Daddy

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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N/Mo

27 Mar 2008 at 23:26 - 19

Best idea for an April's fools? Nerf all Consumables.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

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D/

27 Mar 2008 at 23:29 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Where's my thursday "QQ OSHIT ANET NERFED THE HELL OUT OF MY GAME EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HELL" thread?

Oh you get them anyway, regardless on whether there's been any nerfs. It can take weeks to sink into a moron that their farming build is over.

Inger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Rt

27 Mar 2008 at 23:34 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Daddy

Best idea for an April's fools? Nerf all Consumables.

I could just imagine consumables being reversed and everyone flipping out...

instead of the grail giving +100 health you lose 100 health, essence causes you to walk 25% slower and skills recharge 25% slower, armor of salvation makes all attacks critical against you.

I imagine people would be pissed if they bought a crap load of consumables and used them on april fool's tho

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:36 - 22

My guess is Anet is going to hold of the nerf because of the fame weekend to minimize the QQing that'll happen.

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

27 Mar 2008 at 23:37 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inger

I could just imagine consumables being reversed and everyone flipping out...

instead of the grail giving +100 health you lose 100 health, essence causes you to walk 25% slower and skills recharge 25% slower, armor of salvation makes all attacks critical against you.

I imagine people would be pissed if they bought a crap load of consumables and used them on april fool's tho

That would be the idea of a practical joke. To piss everyone off.

Imagine the number of QQ threads that update would cause /drool

~ Dan ~

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:39 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

My guess is Anet is going to hold of the nerf because of the fame weekend to minimize the QQing that'll happen.

i no coz liek, we need moar gud skillz 2 make moar bildz 4 bambi farmin

baz777

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:40 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

There was nothing to complain about today so you decided to make something out of thin air. Right?

My wife bought herself a new coat today on my behalf for her birthday in November so I have plenty to complain about thank you

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

27 Mar 2008 at 23:40 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

If I was hinting at suicide, I would've emphasised wearing concrete shoes

ninja edit

quicktime

Horus Moonlight

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

27 Mar 2008 at 23:43 - 27

+1

I say we sign a petition for A-Net to go on a merciless nerfing spree.

MithranArkanere

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27 Mar 2008 at 23:51 - 28

Nerfing is not always the solution.

For the resurrected Gwen thread you'll learn that fire has its merits.

ischuros

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

N/Me

28 Mar 2008 at 00:10 - 29

I found a nerf, don't know if it's new or not, but, shock horror, i can't walk through bushes anymore. My new baby mesmer is very upset.

And why, on a GW fansite, has the word mesmer got a red waving line under it?

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Mar 2008 at 00:39 - 30

No builds planned today. Nerfage or otherwise.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 Mar 2008 at 00:43 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Nerfage or otherwise.

Oh? None planned, you say? As in, none planned as of the moment you posted?

Well, then... Please tell whoever is in charge of the Miniatures that I humbly demand a Miniature Armoured Cave Spider by next Monday. That will be the next build. So says me!

Kevin Of Nowhere

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

Massachusetts

R/

28 Mar 2008 at 00:43 - 32

lol what's with all the cats?
I haven't really noticed a trend where nerfs every Thursday, but I did notice that they are happening like almost every week. Also, most nerfs are made for PvP, so I don't see why all the PvEers are complaining.

the_last_m_p

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Mar 2008 at 00:43 - 33

Awww... there goes my theory

As for thursday trend, look through the past update notes on guild wars wiki and notice the dates.

EDIT: This thread has been promptly de-cat-ified, it seems

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

28 Mar 2008 at 00:47 - 34

They are letting the dust settle before the storm of HA this weekend. Would be more bitching than would be bearable if they nerfed anything right now.

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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28 Mar 2008 at 00:51 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_last_m_p

Over the past few months, those of us actively playing Guild Wars would have noticed a trend - every Thursday some aspect of the game gets nerfed (for good or bad is for you to decide). I have grown accustomed to reading flames from the users who ha their favourite build/farming destroyed by an update.
Thursday Nerf is occasionally later followed by the mitigating damage update, trying to deal with the complaints from the (mainly) PvE community while keeping the PvP'ers happy.It is a nice weekly "event" that is often more fun then the by now normal weekend events of double something or other.
Imagine my shock when this week we got..... NOTHING

Some will ask, what is the point of this thread and I am getting to it - did anyone else notice the Thursday Nerf trend and do you think ANet should make it official or should they stop changing the game and let us play already?

Nothing like throwing a little Troll bait in a topic.

I have to assume you have not been playing GW long as Thursday has been the day for balance updates (or any update for that matter) since the servers went live in 2005.

Anyway to answer you question "NO" ANet should not stop changing the game. If they did it would get very boring, very quickly. It is bad enough the way it is, at least the skill balances give it some flavor and changes things up every now and then.

Just my option of course

Krat

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Mar 2008 at 00:53 - 36

I reckon R/D-way will get hit when the double fame weekend pops up.

*Grabs popcorn*

More free fame!

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

28 Mar 2008 at 01:30 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_last_m_p

EDIT: This thread has been promptly de-cat-ified, it seems

Noooooo! My kittehs, they're gone!

Quote:

lol what's with all the cats?

Cats are the harbinger of doom and lockage for a thread. Unless they get EDITED OUT!

Give Anet a week. They'll come up with something truely spectacular

Div

I like yumy food!

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Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

28 Mar 2008 at 01:34 - 38

dAMn thoZ PVperS DEy alwAYS GEt mY PVE builDZ NurFEd

And if you were paying attention, they usually only do it 2 weeks a month. Once to get changes in, and another to make amendments to those changes. So the conclusion is: you're full of shit.

the_last_m_p

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Mar 2008 at 01:34 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by kratimas

Nothing like throwing a little Troll bait in a topic.

I have to assume you have not been playing GW long as Thursday has been the day for balance updates (or any update for that matter) since the servers went live in 2005.

Yeah, I didn't quite see the troll bait aspect of it, but it just seems from a casual glance that every update thread becomes firstly filled with people that say "At last, should have done that long time ago" then comes the wave of "this skill was like that for <insert time>! Why change it now?" followed by "oh no, I can no longer farm <insert monster>!". This is usually mixed in with a generous sprinkling of "why didn't they nerf ursan blessing? Ursan ruined the game!" intermixed here and there. And finally, many posts down the road someone will come along that will explain why the nerf was needed, to just cause everyone else to post again with their alternative solutions, quite a few of which, I admit, seem fairly reasonable and also appear to influence the fix being released sometime down the road, to quiet the raging gamers.

It is just my opinion, but that is what the post-update threads usually look like.

As for thursday being update day from the onset, true enough, but the thing is, recently it has become a "weekly" update thing. Given a choice, wouldn't you rather have all updates happen regularly? So that you could plan your gameplay around it. On the other hand, the surprise factor is gone, and too much pressure is on the devs to update the game so often.

SetraKave

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/Mo

28 Mar 2008 at 01:36 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by baz777

My wife bought herself a new coat today on my behalf for her birthday in November so I have plenty to complain about thank you

hey...my birthday is in November, does that mean I get a new coat too?

** runs off yelling "Honey, I got your card and I'm going shopping! baz777 said I could" **