"Rearrangement" of Titles *read fully before flaming and trolling*

Before any of you troll and flame *and I know you will* please read fully. What I am suggesting is to get rid of some titles, add some titles, and change a few others.

The new title list:

Character Based:
Legendary Titles
-Legendary Champion of Tyria (Tyria here refers to the world of Tyria, not the continent)
--Legendary Defender
---Legendary Protector
----Protector of Tyria
----Protector of Cantha
----Protector of Elona
---Legendary Guardian
----Guardian of Tyria
----Guardian of Cantha
----Guardian of Elona
--Legendary Cartographer
---Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer
---Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer
---Elonian Grandmaster Cartographer
--Legendary Vanquisher
---Vanquisher of Tyria
---Vanquisher of Cantha
---Vanquisher of Elona
--Legendary Adventurer (quests done)
---Adventurer of Tyria
----Adventurer of Ascalon (does NOT count to KoaBD title, also goes away once leaving pre)
---Adventurer of Cantha
---Adventurer of Elona
--Legendary Master of the North

-Legendary Skill Master (all skills)
--Legendary Skill Learner (regular skills)
---Tyrian Skill Learner
---Canthan Skill Learner
---Elonian Skill Learner
--Legendary Skill Hunter (Elite Skills)
---Tyrian Skill Hunter
---Canthan Skill Hunter
---Elonian Skill Hunter

Reputation Titles(no changes)
-Sunspear
-Lightbringer
-Norn
-Asuran
-Dwarven
-Ebon Vanguard

God Reputation (1 rank titles*1,000,000 points*|can only have one of these titles per character| Avatar of the Gods offer bounties*10g to get*|get 1 point per kill with bounties on*2 points in HM*|Auto-bounty gain when entering a realm of the gods*2 points in NM, 4 in HM)
-Worshiper of Grenth (get 1k points for clearing UW)
-Worshiper of Balthazar(get 1k points for clearing FoW)
-Worshiper of Dwayna
-Worshiper of Melandru
-Worshiper of Lyssa
-Worshiper of Kormir(get 1k points for killing Mallyx)

Other
-Legendary Defender of Ascalon
-Legendary Survivor
-Kind of a Big Deal *add in r7:The Legend of <Character Name>(7)*
-Drunkard (does not count to KoaBD due to it being easy to get)
-Sweet Tooth (does not count to KoaBD due to it being easy to get)
-Party Animal (does not count to KoaBD due to it being easy to get)

Account-Based
PvP Titles
-Champion
-Gladiator
-Hero
-Commander

Reputation
-Luxons
-Kurzicks

Other
-Wisdom
-Treasure Hunter
-Lucky
-Unlucky
-Gamer

Total Titles Added:19 (13 that count to KoaBD)
Total Titles Changed: 4
Total Titles that do count to KoaBD (not including Account-based titles): 40

With the removal of some "buying/grind" titles *drunkard, sweet tooth, party animal* from KoaBD, an addition of r7 for KoaBD, and there being 40 PvE only titles*so PvE only people don't QQ about having to do some things in PvP to get titles fast*, I do not think many people would have a problem with these title ideas.

I do not care much if this get flamed, but I would request that you make an argument about how this is bad, because after thinking it through, I do not know how this could be that bad, especially with all the arguments on WHY there should be no more titles. *Making an argument means more then "/notsigned," "no more titles," "bad idea," etc., etc.

And no "Anet won't do this, they are busy with GW2" or "Doing this will slow down the making of GW2," if those statements were the main reason for not doing this idea, then no point in putting ANYTHING up in Sardelac Sanitarium anymore.

Edit:Put Drunkard, sweet tooth, and party animal back in. Originally meant to be a thread on titles counting for KoaBD, but changed it and forgot to change those 3 titles back. Sorry bout that.
Changed how to gain points for God titles and fixed layout of "Legendary Titles" so that there are 2 main titles, Legendary Champion of Tyria and Legendary Skill Master.

Why should Conquerer of Ascalon go away when you leave pre and why shouldn't it count to KoaBD? Legendary Defender does...

And removing the fun-titles (drunkard/party animal/sweettooth) really seems like a bad idea to me. Not all GW players are as serious as you are. Some just like to have a wacky title under there name.
Also, you would remove those titles, meaning people have spend 1000k on Incorrigable Ale Hound + 167 hours of looking through a blurry screen have nothing to show for it, you would just throw that away?

I have have to /notsigned on this part.

I like the God-Reputation Titles and also the Quest Title appeals to me.

So I'll /sign

on that part.

Overall: /notsigned

Free max title yay!!!. That's why.

You think Protector Titles aren't free? You just play the game and you get it...
Legendary Cartograpgher, another free max title. Plenty of free max titles...

/notsigned

simply because you are trying to change the koabd title to a non anchorman title

/notsigned for any of the changes

This just all the bs title suggestions in one post....

Actualy, I thought his idea was pretty nifty for a final anchor man tier, It is the "Legend of Ron Burgundy". But /notsigned because these results do not justify a total overhaul of the title system.

i like the fact of a 'Legendary Protector'. I was under the impression HM was completely optional yet u get BUGGER ALL for 3 protector titles

the quests title also another great idea since i don't personally bother with the quests tbh, and its a shame but there's no drive in doing so.

the skill master title is quite nice too, albeit costly, but then, at least u get somethin for ur money unlike te drunkard/etc titles.

the god titles are a yes too, tho i don't agree with the fact u can only have 1 per character. The whole point of titles is ur allowed them all if u can reach them. Like Kurzick and Luxon titles are both obtainable even tho ur guild is 1 sided. So the idea is awesome, but please make them all accessable. Elementalists prey to all gods u know

So overall a thumbs up to the new titles, but thumbs down to the buying titles, since what use would booze be without a statement of u being n alchoholic :P

So bring back the missing titles, keep the newly added ones, and maybe add 2 or 3 ranks to KoaBD title (but as I D E L E T E D I said, keep to the anchorman theme)

"The legend of..." is in the title of the movie "The Legend of Ron Burgandy"

I woulda added anotehr rank to KoaBD, but couldn't think of any more anchorman lines, what would have to be done is move GWAMM to r7/8 and "Legend of" to r8/9 and add in a rank or 2 under those. Also, edited the titles, put Drunkard and others back in.

The point was to add in titles to stop others from constantly suggesting the same titles and change some other things as to get rid of the main arguments against adding those repeatedly offered titles *mainly KoaBD only having 6 ranks*

i stand corrected

but i still dont agree with changing the title system its fine the way it is.

/notsigned,

why have max titles you can get that don't count towards koabd? stupid
why have a skill learner title, all u do is pay for all the skills from a skills guy, no different to drunkard or party animal - so why have that one count and the other ones not?


LEAVE THE TITLES HOW THEY ARE, LET ANET WORK ON GW2, its not as if they would add all this crap to GW anyway.

.....no, plz.

~LeNa~

another person who doesnt fully read the OP, he suggested removing them from KOABD not completely, they will still be able to be shown in outposts if you really want them, you still earn a title, seriously people read.

I really like the idea of the God Titles! That Grenth track would be the only title I'd feel motivated to get.


I don't care about titles, so whether they get changed or not really doesn't matter to me

Nice idea,
although I wonder how you want to relate the new lvl of koabd toward the HoM.

At the moment you "only" need 25 titles and each minor monument filled.
If you would add in a next lvl of koabd;would we then stick to the 25 titles requirement ? or change it to 30 ?

Also one gw2 comes out some (or alot) people will buy gw1 for the "extras" in gw2. Titles such as drunkard, sweettooth, party animal and even wisdom (treasure hunter, lucky and unlucky and even leg survivor too (lockpicks and scrolls)) will supposey become , well even more then now, e-bay titles.

All for the reason that they are either eassy to achieve or fast to achieve.
People will want to get 25 titles maxed (or 30) as fast as possible and will ,supposely, break rules to do so.

Not including these "e-bay" titles in the koabd would solve the problem.

Okay, you can also get run trough all HM stuff, but I also assume that would be eassier to track down and supposely would require a human to get you trough (well I dunno how bots work, but I asume that as each area is "different" it would require a "different" botprogram for each area)

edit: forgot /signed ><

It's too much.

If you want to make/change that many titles, it'd be better for me if you'd make a new thread explaining your viewpoint on what titles you want changed and why, and also what titles you'd like added. For most I've seen, there's already threads on those, so you can see whether they really seem to have support or not.

As for your arrangement, I like the way you have it organized, as it provides a way of shortening the list of titles to look through, and places titles you might want in easy-to-locate places.

/signed for better arrangement. /notsigned for new titles, title changes, etc.

what planet are you on when u wrote that getting the Drunkard title was hard???? it takes almost 7 full days, with no sleep to get that title, unless you use the window glich, but still, it costs ~750,000 platinum, depending on whethere you use the alcohol efficiently so not many people can actually afford it.
the sweet and party titles are also very expensive to get, costing 110,0000 platinum

and finaly why would they change any of the titles in GW, when Gw2 is close to coming out, people who think they should change titles are generly the ones which can't be bothered to get the titles, and want to make it easier to get titles, or in the case of the drunk, sweet, and party r2, they can't be bothered to get them, and deem them unorthy of bieng a max title, i would also like to add that if you did remove these titles as bieng counted, then the max title max title, would be almost impossible to get, as you would need r15 hero...which i know that only 1 or no one has got.

klllerbot3009 - erm.. to max party animal, sweet tooth, and drunkard, do expect to spend 900k - 1100k. points/minutes essentially cost 90-110g per.

also, r15 does NOT exist. there are currently only 3 people in the WORLD who are close to getting it, and even so, they are still between 10,000 and 20,000 'til they have "Legendary Hero (15)".

~LeNa~

Worshiper of ______ is a bad idea imo. We don't need more titles, especially ones you can buy from a merchant.

I really don't see the need to organize titles either.

I cannot agree with a suggestion that calls the Adventurer title 'conquerer'.
Everyone knows that those that go around towns making quests are adventurers.

LOL...yet you want to add 5 max titles that require you to zone, talk to a ghost, spend 100g, then rezone x 1000 times to get a title? Plus it'd only cost 100k to get each this way.

I like the overall concept.

OP Fixed this section: I think that you had a bug in doing your legendary champion since I think you are looking for that to be a protector + guardian + skill titles, etc and the way I read it was that it only had protector and guardian in it.

OP Fixed this section: The gods favor title max levels need to be increased at least by a factor of 10 if the points awards for blessings is at 10 per gold. Currently could max title by spending 100k. Also agree that each character should be able to earn all 5 (or 6 if you wanted a god of secrets favor) titles.

No reason to not have drunkard, party, sweet tooth not count toward KoaBD. If someone wants to grind them out, they should get the reward. It really is harder to get Ale Hound than Protector of Tyria.

/signed for concept, but some areas need reworked

Actually, it was you who didn't fully read the OP, As mentioned in an edit, I ment for this thread to be changes to KoaBD alone, removing some titles and adding others, but changed the thread purpose and forgot to change those 3 titles back.

Unless you e-bay money then drunkard, etc. are not that easy. Also GW2 is not close to coming out, still over a year till its PLANNED release. This wasn't to make it easier to max KoaBD, seeing how I added a rank, and proposed another rank which I could not think of a name for. And I counted 40 titles for PvE *character based meaning* only titles, so unless a rank 8 is added, then there won't be a problem as there are about 6 titles in account based that are easy to max *not gamer and the non-"PvP titles"*.

Thank you for noticing that, I could not recall what most people wanted for that title to be called, I will change it.

Only ONE of the god titles are maxable, and unless your going for one of the 3 gods without a realm we can go to, it can end up being faster and cheaper to clear UW, FoW, and/or DoA to get the titles. I only added the blessings thing for those who cannot/don't want to do the elite areas.

As for the main legendary *which is meant to be gained once you get Legendary Defender, Legendary Vanquisher, Legendary Cartographer, and Legendary Master of the North* being messed up, I will look over that shortly. I will change the god title for the blessings part so that the Grenth, Blathazar, and Kormir titles are harder to max from the blessings, but it would not be fair for the other 3 gods, seeing how they do not have realms.

The reason why I do not have drunkard, etc. not count to KoaBD is because they are pure bought titles, originally I wanted only the titles with "Legendary" in the name for those under the "Legendary Titles" part to count for KoaBD*no Protector/Guardian/skill Hunter/skill learner/vanquisher/cartographer or tyria/cantha/elona* but that led to only 16 character based titles counting to KoaBD, so I scratched that.

I knew some areas would need reworking, as not only did I type this up half asleep but this is just a "test" set-up. I will rework it now.

Titles do need better organization though, even tabs for the titles would be nice.

At least making the currently selected title appear at the start of the list will do for now.

I gotta say, I expected more flames on this thread, that kinda shocked me.