"This Class is Too Hard to Play?"

bisurge

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Join Date: Mar 2008

How come I keep hearing stuff about "This class is too hard to play"?
When people make builds, and people can't keep up, does that automatically make it a bad build? People should try other games, especially with pets, where you have to control yourself and your pets and control each one of your skills and keep you both healed.

So why do people say some builds are too hard to play?

Zokocow

Zokocow

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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It just depends on the persons playing type. You can have people that will play a class where you have to push 1 or 2 keys and just sit there and watch. Or you'll get some people who love to be maintaining all sorts of enchants, spells, skills, minions, pets, etc.

Some people just don't understand how to play other classes and so they label them 'Hard to play'.

N1ghtstalker

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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because you have to be able to use your build in a correct way to make it function correctly
if you have a dumb build like wammo you're just plain suicidal
and as i can see you're talking about a bunny thumper with Heal as One
a kind of hard class to play in PvP is monk
you'll be targeted alot and have to keep yourself and party members alive under pressure

Snograt

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Play a Mesmer. With twitch-reaction interrupts. I phail badly at that one, regadless of how good the build may be

HawkofStorms

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Some builds are basically impossible to play if you lag. Try playing an interupt build with a 1 second ping. It literally becomes impossible unless you just spam your interupts and hope to get lucky (which isn't the smart way to play that build anyways).

GW is a fast pace game compared to most MMOs. You can die very quickly and generally need very good reaction time.

Twin Blade Warriror

Twin Blade Warriror

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Join Date: Jan 2006

I was in a guild by myself with 2 of my other accounts..but im banned now

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it really depends on the person..i know monks..have a difficult time in pvp..
doesnt matter wat build ur playing..well kinda does but yeah..but if a top ranked guild gave ur guild a build that they run and u guys go in and play..its not going to do u any good unless u know how to work it

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

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most pointless thread ever ...

1) some people are bad at the game
2) some people fail at making a build that allows its skills to be used efficently


/close thread

Miska Bow

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Its got nothing to do with the class you play or the skills you use.

It all depends on the hand that hold the mouse.

MagmaRed

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I'm sad. Nobody said the Assassins can't tank, and so its a hard class to play

HuntMaster Avatar

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All the professions are hard to play unless you know the proper skills to use in the right areas against the right monsters.

Numa Pompilius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bisurge
So why do people say some builds are too hard to play?
Just out of idle curiosity: who says this?
Because I've never heard anyone say it.

cosyfiep

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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some classes require more ability than others.....I still cant get the hang of the off-hand etc attacks of the assassin.....its not hard to play, I just dont feel like taking the time to learn them so I can use them effectively.

Food

Food

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Sword is right, there are some people who are just plain bad at this game, and there are some builds that are harder to successfully execute than others. Bisurge, I don't know if you are trying to vent your frustration with some builds or are just simply stating a fact, but if you are venting your frustration about the level of difficulty this game there's always WoW <3

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

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Hard, no. More like different. Some people just can't adapt to a different play style and thus label it hard(or they just plain suck to begin with).

And builds aren't bad just cause someone can't keep up. If you're looking for input, just ignore the trolls and wait for some one who knows what they are talking about to show up.

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
I'm sad. Nobody said the Assassins can't tank, and so its a hard class to play
Ah, but sins CAN tank, you just need the right build. My sin tanks well, even with both monks in my party dead.

Back to the topic, as people have stated, each person is able to play different things better then others, like me for example, I can use any attacking characters very well, casters somewhat, and supporters, yeah Alesia as a lvl 3 would be better then me at lvl 20. So people would label at least one profession as "hard" because they cannot play as that, while others would label that same profession easy because they are able to play very well as that profession.

Jam Jar

Jam Jar

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It's just that... inner spirit you know? Like... YOU'RE MADE FOR WARRIOR. Or... YOU'RE MADE FOR AN ELEMENTALIST. Be a class. Love the class.

Coloneh

Coloneh

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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people complain about classes being hard because they have been taught that anything requiring thought is to hard. people today are stupid...

Sword

Sword

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame

And builds aren't bad just cause someone can't keep up. If you're looking for input, just ignore the trolls and wait for some one who knows what they are talking about to show up.
clearly ur bad ...

Mr. G

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why don't you ask these "people", why should we know what they say or why they say it?

visitor

visitor

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Particulary what class

Quaker

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bisurge
How come I keep hearing stuff about "This class is too hard to play"?
So why do people say some builds are too hard to play?
The simplest answer to these questions is - because some classes and/or builds are harder to play than others.

At one extreme you have a basic Warrior where you just hit C-spacebar and click a few skill buttons while you chat with your buddies on Ventrilo or talk on the phone.

At the other extreme you have classes/builds where you need to be constantly monitoring health/energy bars and/or timing the use of skills and attacks and/or micro-managing heroes and pets, to be effective.

Add bad pings and/or recreational substances into the mix, and some classes/builds become much harder to play than others.

Sir Tidus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by bisurge
How come I keep hearing stuff about "This class is too hard to play"?
When people make builds, and people can't keep up, does that automatically make it a bad build? People should try other games, especially with pets, where you have to control yourself and your pets and control each one of your skills and keep you both healed.

So why do people say some builds are too hard to play?
Because they have never tried the Full Vigor Paladin before!

the_jos

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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For me there is a huge difference between a hard to play build and a hard to play class.
Some builds require a lot of interaction with other players or specific conditions.
As said before, it's hard to interrupt or infuse when you have huge ping.
Or a spike build where everyone has to react at the same time, not easy to play when you don't have voice com.

In the end it's all about what you like or don't like.
I play mesmer or monk most of the time. Before my mesmer I played interrupt ranger a lot.
So I'm used to reacting fast to certain situations. And can read the battlefield to some extend.

On the other hand, I have a lot more trouble watching the battlefield when playing melee because vision is blocked more.
That does not mean the entire class is too hard to play, but certain builds would be without a lot of practice.

Dark Kal

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Just out of idle curiosity: who says this?
Because I've never heard anyone say it.
I've never heard anyone say it either.

No class is hard to play it's either fun for you to play a certain class or not. Different people like different classes, simple.

kranius

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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-one can say a class is hard to play because it isn't 1-2-3-1-2-3

-one can say a class is hard to play because to be efficient you must have an overall vision of the battlefield

-one can say a class is hard to play because it requires some gaming skills and/or experience with it

-one can say a class is hard to play because they never tried it

-one can say a class is hard to play because you just dont see DPS on your screen...

-one can say a class is hard to play because synergy and communication is needed to have it shine

did i win the thread ?

Luigibomb

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Fpsdoug

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Warrior/Elementalist BAD IDEA

Bowstring Badass

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigibomb
Warrior/Elementalist BAD IDEA
Heard of shockaxe? You fail.

Kattar

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Hamstorm = bad idea.

Shockaxe = win.

Bowstring Badass

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi
Hamstorm = bad idea.

Shockaxe = win.

If there was a you-win.org you would get it.

Sir Tidus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Heard of shockaxe? You fail.
Is there a shock sword? Or some kind of W/E sword combo?