Does anyone else think drop rates of everything in FOW/UW should be lowered?

MirkoTeran

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If that would increase the prices of ectos/shards, then sure /signed. (I don't believe it will)

Arduin

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Originally Posted by flubber
I mean..I can only farm 2k faction a day...
Try farming Zaishen Elite, it'll go up to 6k faction a day :P

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Try farming Zaishen Elite, it'll go up to 6k faction a day :P
I thought it was capped at 2k...used to farm the IWAY's lol. unless I'm missing something.

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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zaishen_Challenge
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Originally Posted by Wiki
One account can only earn a total of 2,000 faction per day from the Zaishen Challenge

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zaishen_Elite but elite you can get 6k

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I don't like random spawns. neither do the solo build(s) I run. so it's no elite for me. ;-D

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unless you're suggesting I farm with REAL people. or H/H. that just won't happen.

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ecto farming is a waste of time and always will be, the only thing decreasing drop rates would do is make the rich players with stacks of ectoes even richer while the average farmer will still be earning the same amount of gold/hour.

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siirius Black
Sheezzh I always find treads like this where people are "corncerned" about the economy. How much money do you have OP?

I believe that you are trying to protect what you have already. I been doing FOW and UW since the begining of the game and right now, FOW even in hard mode gives you CRAP Drops. I think I get better drops in NM.

Now asking to have no drops at all because you are afraid of the economy?

Man the economy has been in a stand still for a while now. The problem is not the shards, or the ectos but the Ambraces.

Those people who where able to get "away" with stacks of them. 100k + 15 ectos for one.

So please, stop sharing these ideas of "NO DROPS".

Ectos the same way, you get like 1 for every 5 runs. 2 if you are lucky. What rate drop do you prefer??? 1 every 10??
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I love all these threads when long-time farmers want to stop new farmers. I just wish i had an ecto everytime one was posted.
It is funny becausem you automatically assume that I am rich, well atm I have under 10k and I never had obsidiam armour.
The community automatically assumes that you are either on one side or the other, and those that think realistically are automatically assumed to be rich farmers, who want to stay. I never said that there is a economic problem atm, I am saying there will. Like I said I prefer ecto being 5k rather than 15k, but prices will drop from 5k and i doubt anyone can make money for 100g-1k ecto. You make more money soloing.
BTW you get around 3-5 ecto per run normal mode.
and BTW I have only had the game for 2 years. SO I started in 2006 and I only stated farming around 8 months ago.

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
YAY I agree also, decrease the drop rates of EVERYTHING so casuals will HAVE to buy from ME and I can get RICHER and RICHER and they can suffer and suffer. lol What a stupid idea by the OP. lol
Assuming that I have lots to sell and that I am rolling in gold
I am just like the next guy I want to be rich, but I am also a realist.
Hell, I still haven't figured what loostscalling is ( I would appreciate it if someone explained) and I am meant to be a greedy rich player?

I never said ecto is bad NOW but it will be, trust me.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
I never said that there is a economic problem atm, I am saying there will. Like I said I prefer ecto being 5k rather than 15k, but prices will drop from 5k and i doubt anyone can make money for 100g-1k ecto.
Where is your evidence for that. Prices of ectos have been stable for a year since the last major ANet game shift. Its only when ANet does something to fiddle that prices change, so why do you think that prices are dropping when they clearly are not?

jon0592

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Same thing is happening with those wishing to preserve the "status" of armbraces

Willow O Whisper

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Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

The price is fixed and the drop rate is fine.
If it ain't broke don't fix it!

shure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
BTW you get around 3-5 ecto per run normal mode.
Take me with you, because I don't believe you I'll give you all ectos that drop back (and +1 from me) if we get 3

Pupu

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Left gw..yawn

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wow im tottaly stunned...this time last year people moaned for better drop rates and easier ways to finish missions and crap. now we have it and you want it all lowered? what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO......

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I MP I

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Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

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Lower the drop rates on ecto and shards? Why? Myself and other people who do fow/uw hardly get much whether we're in normal mode or hard mode. If anything Anet should lower the drop rates on white and blue merchant fodder items. /not signed

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

Ummm no, the drop rates from solo farming in normal mode are low enough, let's not kill another great way to farm.

Numa Pompilius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
It is funny becausem you automatically assume that I am rich, well atm I have under 10k and I never had obsidiam armour.
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problem atm, I am saying there will. Like I said I prefer ecto being 5k rather than 15k, but prices will drop from 5k and i doubt anyone can make money for 100g-1k ecto. You make more money soloing.
BTW you get around 3-5 ecto per run normal mode.
and BTW I have only had the game for 2 years. SO I started in 2006 and I only stated farming around 8 months ago.
You don't mind me calling you a stinking liar when you claim to have played for two years, do UW runs, haven't spent the ecto on obsi-armor, and not having more than 10K, do you?

Oh wait, I just realized: you've bought an elemental sword for 100K plus all your ecto, right?

In conclusion: You farm ectos, you've done so for quite a long time, you want them to become more expensive by stopping new farmers.

Exactly like I said, and exactly like so many long-time farmers before you.

GloryFox

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

If anything Ecto drop rates need to revert to complete pre nerf status.

GloryFox

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Back when GW was released it was possible to acquire 100 ecto's a day solo farming. Some people early on became very very very rich and are still rich due those early 3-4 months after release. I know one individual who collected over 1500 ecto's in under two weeks. He still has that amount since with FOW armor for 13 characters. Early drop rates means it's possible for an average player to get FOW armor from simple every day farming. If anything it gave an incredible edge for those in on the builds and drop rates early on.

GW WAS about skill over grind. That was very true for 4 months after release.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Back when GW was released it was possible to acquire 100 ecto's a day solo farming. Some people early on became very very very rich and are still rich due those early 3-4 months after release. I know one individual who collected over 1500 ecto's in under two weeks. He still has that amount since with FOW armor for 13 characters. Early drop rates means it's possible for an average player to get FOW armor from simple every day farming. If anything it gave an incredible edge for those in on the builds and drop rates early on.

GW WAS about skill over grind. That was very true for 4 months after release.

100e a day? 1500e in 2 weeks?

Name the person. Very few people had that kind of cash back in the day.

ShadowsRequiem

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worst thread ever.

makosi

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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I think that reducing drop rates would benefit most those people with multiple stacks of ectos. Do they really need financial help? They're a minority, probably <1% of the population.

Kook~NBK~

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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Ecto prices have gone down so slowly that the drop rate is, when looked at in view of "the big picture," just fine. Eventually the current stockpile of favor will run out and then prices will stabilize once again. (Unless they repeat the double SS/LB weekend too soon - LOL)

Molock

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Blade Warriror
yeah that would be nice...makes it harder as usual to get obsidian armor..would be nice to have everything back to "normal" as it should be ^^
because of ursan everyone is richer then ever
The better solution would be to nerf Ursan and leave FoW alone for people like me who clear it with balanced groups. Oh sorry, you must of forgotten what a balanced group is..

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Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pigs Go [Oink]

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How about NO?

Elia

Elia

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Join Date: Jul 2006

France

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
djeez kid
i'm already getting purples constantly dropped from HM chests and you wanna nerf the one or two obsi shards i get for each run i do?
why don't you nerf my new sinspiker while you're at it so i'm totally screwed -.-
Same here, just came back from FoW full run in hard mode with 3 shards, and really bad drops from chest, as usual...

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yes, please make more people buy more gold. Those farmers need to stay in business.

Gun Pierson

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

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I don't know on what server you play but my ecto drop sucks, often getting none in a few smite runs, hm or nm doesn't seem to matter.

There's something smelly about your request OP.

kratimas

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
We have so many minutes of favor that pugs are going into FOW/UW literally every second. Trust me soon ecto and rare drops will be merch crap (not like they already aren't.)
Sure, I am all up for more people being able to afford obsidian, but the idea of ecto being under 1k gives me a shudder, and it will be. Ecto is the best judge of the economy and if it is low the ecomy is low. Preferably I would like a few days with no drops in UW because people will be buying ecto and shard from people and material traders rather than farming it.
Your thoughts.

P.S-I know that this is never going to happen, just want your thoughts.
WHO CARES, with GW2 on the horizon who really cares anymore about ectos or rares.

I could be wrong but, it just sounds like to me you are one of the soooooo many who bought a bunch of ectos at a high price then got stuck with them so, now you need to bitch and hope Anet will take them away for a while so, they will go back up and you can profit from it.

Ectos are far from the best judge of the economy. Besides we have had unlimited access to UW for quite a while now and ectos are holding strong the only thing that will truly make them go down in price is when the demand is no longer there.

If you really want the price of ectos to go up "beg" Anet to offer new armor that requires ectos or a new super cool weapon skin that can only be crafted and takes 250 ectos to make. Then you will see ectos price rise again.

Until them play the game to have fun not to be a greedy bast...

Neo Nugget

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No, I actually want a set of FoW without dedicating a month of farming/buying.
And no i'm not one of those people who make 100k/day >.>

MrGuildBoi

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Join Date: May 2006

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Yes, nerf drop rate of gold too because it is dropping too much..

/endsarcasm

jimmyboveto

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twin Blade Warriror
yeah that would be nice...makes it harder as usual to get obsidian armor..would be nice to have everything back to "normal" as it should be ^^
because of ursan the lazy people and noobs are richer then ever
Fixed to make it more accurate.

Firebaall

Firebaall

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Join Date: Sep 2006

This thread stinks of selfish.

It's hard to see any motivation here beyond the "ecto stackers" preserving their "worth".

Lest121

Lest121

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Originally Posted by MMSDome
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAD IDEA!!!!

I get shit drops as it is now, do not decrease drop rates!
My Drops outside of UW/FOW is Normal, but once i enter this place it turns in crap....... only reason to go to UW and FOW is for the obsidian blade otherwise that place is a waste of time, even if you not paying for the entry fee.

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
You don't mind me calling you a stinking liar when you claim to have played for two years, do UW runs, haven't spent the ecto on obsi-armor, and not having more than 10K, do you?

Oh wait, I just realized: you've bought an elemental sword for 100K plus all your ecto, right?

In conclusion: You farm ectos, you've done so for quite a long time, you want them to become more expensive by stopping new farmers.

Exactly like I said, and exactly like so many long-time farmers before you.
I am flattered, ammused and annoyed that you think I am a long term, rich farmer.
I used to have 20k in gold 50k in ecto and 3k in shards, before that character got deleted and that is why I claim I have done UW runs and still have under 10k. Even with what I had achieved with that previous character I hadn't reached the 100K CAP.

MirkoTeran

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Slovenia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
I claim I have done UW runs and still have under 10k.
Are you saying you did UW runs (note plural) and earned under 10k? (like under 10k/run or 10k total?)

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Are you saying you did UW runs (note plural) and earned under 10k? (like under 10k/run or 10k total?)
ha talk about only reading what you want to read

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

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Slovenia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
ha talk about only reading what you want to read
So I guess it would be better to quote the whole post and ask same question. Interesting.

S_Serpent

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Bad idea /unsigned

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

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Reduce ecto drop rates as I won't notice as get sod all anyway.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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I'd rather see a fix for the people with no life who are spending 10 hours or more farming ectos and shards.

We're programming to fix the wrong problems on this planet...

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

Where are people seeing this decrease in the cost of ectos? It has maintained the same price for at least a year. It's usually only 2 different increments, 4.9K or 5.5K (vendor price), however recently I've seen other prices, but it still doesn't go below that price and as even gone up to 6K at times. So if you're talking more than a year ago, then yes, price has dropped a bit, but it's stabilized for a long time.