Fastest Underworld clear No PVE Skills - 12th April, 1.6m in total prizes.

Too bad I missed this in the end. Seems it was a huge succes! Hope we're gonna see a next part of this

And gz to agro, great time there

gj all.
Thx DVDF for this nice event))
Thx [agro] for cool time)))



Stop Stealing [agro]

Was a great event, thank you very much, Shan and DVDF for organizing it. Was an excellent challenge and looks like everyone had a lot of fun. Congratulations to agro for the time, very impressive!

GJ to all the teams that participated and thanks for the event DVDF.
We had a lot of fun preparing for this and plan on beating our own time

grats to all the prize winners too!

Wow!
Good job to agro for that time, tis pretty crazy. Thought we were in trouble there if all the teams were following that up.
We got off to a pretty rocky start, but we were pretty happy we managed to finish, so totally not expecting that one. We did have a great time though, lots of laughs and "uhoh" moments, so many thanks for DVDF for organizing, and for our ref for his patience and not laughing (atleast not on team chat) at us too hard

ahahha thanks for the heroric title.
i am with the lsl team.
we had much fun doing it to bad we dint compleet all quest!
i am wondering when the next event wil come? our guild is even willingly to pay a entry fee. maby that is a good idee?
wel i hope to see somting soon aggain MUCH FUN:P
Grtzz
Herares Monk ( Doggie )

GG everyone!
Did anyone do a Fraps for these?
I would love to see them..

Here's the build we used:

[build=OQYTgmIT5hvS++LLuzhh9qkWAA]
[build=OQYTgmITZivi8pScx5cww6qItAA]
[build=OAZCY8xkQTeQiQZAywegAQCI]
[build=OASjcYhrIPjTMm3cyJNPuJiLGA]
[build=OASjcYhrIPVPMm3cyJNPuJiLGA]
[build=OwYT00HDRSLaTzf4uqgoBseAZAA]
[build=OwYT003C1RLupt031NS9AZM9BA]

We did the quests in the following order (doubt it matters):
clear the chamber, restoring the monuments, four horsemen, servants of grenth, unwanted guests, terrorweb queen, escort of souls, wrathful spirits, imprisoned spirits, demon assasin.

EDIT:
The build:
As Mitsu said, the build basically revolves around the warriors' damage dealing.
The Rts are a major source of damage by using splinter weapon and ancestors rage on the warriors and supporting the monks with straight up heals. In addition they chain rigor mortis against blocking foes (rangers, terrorweb queen, aatxe etc) and are the main ressers.
The necro is a SS hybrid with barbs to increase the damage by the warriors, rigor mortis against block and foul feast to remove blind quickly.
The monks are both prot hybrids, with one a little more healing oriented (glimmer elite) for when the group is together, but both still viable on their own for the splits. Basically prot spirit, spirit bond and vigorous spirit on the warriors to keep them up, and the others at need. SoA for the traps. We ended up pretty much ignoring the hexes (with one hex removal for those nasty ones on the warriors) and using only the 1/4 casts at the mesmer area.

Tactics:
Pretty straightforward. The team stayed together most of the time, opting for efficient killing. We split for the four horsemen where two teams took one side each until just the bosses were left and then we killed them together. For unwanted guess we used two teams to rush and kill two keepers at a time while the necro stayed back and teleported. And for terrorweb queen one warrior and rt stayed back to kill the dryders around the reaper while the rest took out the queen.

The run:
We messed up pretty quickly on our first run, when we forgot the patrolling aatxe in the labyrinth and had to go get them (and died miserably). The second run was going well until we rushed the servants of grenth a bit too fast and forgot the last group of dryders who proceeded to kill the reaper while we were on the next quest.
Third run went ok, though we messed up a bit along the way, losing a fair bit of time on the horsemen (we were arguing over which one to kill first lol), the spawning pools (aggro problems and I messed up the consumables *whistles*) and the bone pit (dumb spirit refused to walk up the hill and went running all over the place). We ought to be able to cut down 10mins or so on the run, but that's probably about the limit; we'd be nowhere near agro's time.

Grats LOD on our 2nd (technically 3rd, but w/e) place win! I would have hopped onto Vent to hear what was going on, but I was at prom....:P

And thanks to DVDF for running the competition! Next stop: Urgoz!!

nice gg to all ....

you have my respect

I would like to thank team Ar Vin. This wonderful group had the most interesting build I've ever seen in the UW (even though they did not win the most innovative, I strongly supported them for it). I am convinced they could have finished had the vengeful Ataaxe died as it was supposed to and not killed the Reaper. I enjoyed listening to their conversations (although they spoke dutch and I did not) in game. E V I O was by far the best Ele solo tank I've seen in a long time and he did not miss a beat. SO kudo's to E V I O.

To the best of my knowledge, this is the team set-up The Goon Squad played with:

[build=WHERE'S MY MENDING;OQkjcqScESSFQFVi6VKFdYrY/EA]
[build=CONSTANT CLEAVING;OQkjcqScESSFQFVi6VKFdYrY/EA]
[build=Y CAN'T I BRING URSAN??? (pub warrior);OQMjUNUcETkPTNLO/VcF8VGWCAA]
[build=OH GOD I'M SACCING TO DEATH;OgSjouEGLTeXTCGC3XhXgXlX4XA]
[build=GET IN EARSHOT NOOBS;OQOjgqnbpSqYhYiYaYdYBZ4bybA]
[build=HEXES WHAT HEXES;OQOjgumapSsYKYFZ4bybaaVYjYA]
[build=(TANKED ALOT OF STUFF GUD MESMER ^_^);OQZkkwDYwBgk2wX1Wl0nIgHkBAIA]
[build=referee;OwcgQ3ktXRMCAAAAAAAAAA]

Like I told our referee, we kind of built the team around what we had and nearly went in with only two warriors. I played the Obsidian Flesh mesmer and found it to be very resilient, though boring for much of the time. It was useful to be able to solo monsters, but I can see how running a 4/4 split with more damage would be more efficient.

Illusion of Weakness helped on the 1-2 times we were overwhelmed and the rest of the team could get away while I bought an extra 5-6 seconds of survival.

The pub warrior was unexpected, and I would've liked to see him bring Rebirth...but I can't really complain. He knew what he was doing and did a great job with making suggestions.

Two of our warriors, the hex paragon, and myself had never done Underworld before so this was a hell of an experience. We died in a really dumb fashion - not realizing that we had to keep the Ice King alive during the Servants of Grenth quest. We didn't really have any problems up until that point...my favorite part was tanking the Aataxes while the rest of my group would sneak past to kill the Keepers.

I wouldn't mind seeing the builds that the rest of the teams played with, especially [agro]'s. Thanks again for the great event.

First of all thanks for the contest Shanaeri, it woke our interest in UW. Was really a lot of fun in the end.
Regarding that, our build - scoring a time of 40:39, or not - is still in testing. We cought wind of the contest 2 days before it actually took place ( from a dvdf friend ) and are still working on it and better times. As we now have 8 players, new possibilities are open [still no pve skills]. We'll create a variation for hm once we have set a nice record in nm.

We improved the tactic as well, made it a bit riskier in the process xD

Shame about that being a problem, the rules do not prohibit it at any point, but to be fair we decided to pass the first prize onto the 2nd scoring guild.

... FoW Contest in a month or so..?

I know the purification para had infuse health, Swaped dwayna's touch on the derv for imbue health. I really forget, we threw most of that together at the last minute.

Let me elaborate on the pub we picked up. We had someone drop and someone refuse to get online so we were short one person. I'm sure our judge got a laugh when we invited a level 9 ele then tried to go in (apparantly everyone has to be level 20 to get in now, who knew?). We ended up picking up a warrior who hadn't heard of the contest and was confused as to why no pve skill and our one monk (the judge) died right at the beginning.

Also I've done UW before(one of the warriors), just not since late 2005.

First of all, congrats to [agro] for winning and the other teams for getting the prices

For the SNOW team, I don't know all the builds.
We had a few short practice runs in the hours before we started and not with the entire team we used.
We ran a team build for split with 2 terra's for Pits, Pool and Planes and later to help on Wastes and Labyrinth.
The rest of the team was two monks (healer + bonder), 2 echo SS and a earth tank. And Cosmic who was down on the floor in UW.
Our initial attempt went ok till one of our terra's got lag on his quest and got the reaper in Pool (I think) killed on 46 mins. Our team was completing Vale at that time. Still not even near [ agro ] time.
That run could have been quicker than our second attempt.
Those things happen.

Second attempt went better and I must say I'm surpriced we got 1.33 since I thought it was 1.44
You might want to check on that.
We had to replace our other monk who only had time for one attempt and Endless was kind enough to replace him.

On our second run we had some problems.
At a certain point we had to ress our two terra's who had no problem completing Planes the first time.
Then we had a near wipe on Twin, which we also did not have on our first run. And I doubt we could only blame the monks. Perhaps we should have taken a break and not getting back in action so fast.
Also, Krann was our leader in Twin and all of a sudden that area looks like a maze when you know the environment but not the entire route.

After our successful second run I think there was some room for improvement in the team build.
I was playing bonder since we did not have enough defense our test runs but with a W/E tank I could probably have taken a hybrid build.
We decided to take a bonder because the terra's could not tank aatxes.
And on our official runs we had access to our W/E tank eliminating the weakness of the terra's.
With an experienced and very coordinated team I think one healer could even be enough.
Also, a terra can take down the queen but it takes a long time.
In the end our terra's were both working on the queen.
When everyone knows the way it might be usefull to send a nuker over to help them.

Today I did two other UW runs (UB, HM) to get to know the environment better and experience makes a lot of difference there.
At least now I know the paths to the reaper in Twin
Not taking quests was something I already knew but I did not know all spawning points which I do know now.

I think we did ok for a team with mixed experience.
Our terra's Niky and Blazing are experienced and helped us out and Krann is also experienced.
I had played Wastes (not only smite run but entire quest) and Vale before, I'm not sure about the experience of others.
Either they were on about the same experience level or just shy to take the lead.
To make it clear, I'm talking about experience in the environment and not playing the profession.
We all know the professions we played in this event.

If it was not about time and just about fun I'd say our team build would fit the somewhat experienced guild/alliance team.
Replace bonder with hybrid monk and add nuker (non AoE, we had lots of aggro problems with SH eles) instead of Cosmic.
If you decide to play with a full team and not split (our terra's got most ecto's) you'd either need two terra's at the Four Horsemen or a monk with spellbreaker if you want to tank them (maybe the W/E can do it with consumables, not sure).
Most important is that you have someone who has some experience on the quests. Also having tanks who know where and how to tank makes life a lot easier. And, as I experienced again today: DON'T take a quest unless told to do! (no, it was not me).

Full UW was a new experience for me and fun to play.
I do understand why UW is less populair to play than other elite areas.
The quests are a lot less forgiving than those in other areas.
Start one at the wrong time and you are send back straight to the outpost.
In FoW we have the griffons but if someone accesses that one too soon it's possible to hold them back. Accessing the quest in the burning forrest too soon will make things harder but not impossible.
Starting a quest in UW could easily mean failure.

That's it for now, maybe others from my team have more to tell or maybe I remember more after I've gotten some sleep (2.30AM atm).

Thanks for the event and the experience to both DVDF and my team members.

Finishing players: Ivan (tank), Niky (terra), Blazing (terra), Ardnax (SS), Torori (SS), Endless (Healer), Yazou (Bonder) and Cosmic (DVDF leech)
Playing on first attempt: Krann (Healer)

Did any guilds not split? I'm guessing [TDF] didn't. Also did any guilds not use a terra tank?

we barely split at all, and didnt use Terra Tanks. since our damage was based exclusively on our warriors (with spilinter weapon) we used builds on them which maximised that damage. the only tanking skills used were Dolyak Signet and that was just for The Four Horsemen. our only splits we did were at the Horsemen where one team took each side, at The Terrorweb Queen, where one warrior and one rit stayed behind to finish off the dryders by the reaper, and during Unwanted Guests, where the two teams ran to seperate locations before being teleported out by the necro.

once again, grats to all the teams that took part, and thanks to the organisers! was an amazing experience.

We did a split, but we didn't use terra tank.

Out team concept was running in 2 sepperate teams 90% of the time.

team1: 600hp monk tank, smiter, SS necro and Rt with WoQ as elite
team2: 600hp monk tank, smiter and SS necro

team 1 went straight to labyrinth, finnished all quests there(except vegneful aatxes one). Team2 cleared their way to Smiters area and cleared Dryders to get The Ice King quest. Then I(600tank) went to the place where groups of Dryders spawn and killed them(makes it wa<y fatser with SS necro). When we finnished we met up in labyrinth, did vegneful aatxes quest and went to Chaos planes. We splitted there again, team2 went to clear area Chaos Planes while Team1 cleared rangers area(makes it 1000 times easier&faster if you go 8man and add ele nuker to team1). Then we met up for 4horsemen quest, tanks killed those bosses(WoQ is mainly needed for this, to hace SB up 100% of the time). Then team 2 went and cleared Dry<ders area while team1 cleared Necro area. If all went perfectly we could finnish in under 1h. If we would have ele, it would take 50~ mins.

Ok, that was the idea we wanted to run, didn't work too well in the end(2 team members didn't show up, so we had to pick 2 "random" guildies in last moments). Also we didn't have any practice with running wwithout ele and Rt instead. So yeh, we weren't too well prepared Still 6th place is a good place

Would be great if other team will post builds too

~Horus

edited my thread above with a bit more details.

Since this event was about speed in a large multi-quest environment a split is a very obvious choice.
Just the walk to the various quests takes a lot of time and you can't win back that amount of time by killing faster with a full group.
If you can do two quests in 15 mins with a split and one of them in 7.5 with full team you still gained the time it takes to travel from quest to quest.

The E/Me terra can be replaced but requires a different kind of split.
The advantage is that they can solo most areas except where there are aatxes.
Disadvantage is that they are not as fast as for example a tank/nuker combination.

In the end you have players with probably a limited number of professions they can play well.
For example, I play mainly mesmer and monk second. While I have several other professions I can play I'm not that experienced on them and can't run every build.
Now I decided to play monk and even there I'm limited.
I can tank as 600 in UW but that requires a dedicated smiter.
I have very limited 55 experience which in my opinion would be a superior choice in UW when combined with a SS.

If you have every profession available and all players are experienced on those professions it's easy to make a very different team.
For example three 55/SS teams with a terra or other solo build so you can work on 4 quests at the same time.
Take two 55/SS teams to four horsemen, complete it and split after that.
The rest can go to the other areas.
Not sure about the speed but working on as many quests as possible is a huge advantage when it's about fast times.

yea it was great fun although i didnt realise it was 3 chances but nvm.

thanks Emunaltor Monk for being our ref and understading our lack of luck :P you were great thanks DVDF for putting ur time and commitment into this uv been fab!

Look forward to doing something like this in the future

so who won? i'm 2 lazy to look through all 8 pages xD

Agro got the fastest time

Awesome job everyone!. Grats on Agro. And thanks to those teams who posted their team builds and still looking forward to the rest of team builds. Really cool!

A big thank you from [AM ] for setting this up. We had a load of fun.
We found this 'tournament' only a few days before it started and didn't have a lot of time to set everything up, but we found enough people willing to try and go for a fast time that we decided to give it a go. We had a couple of practises to see which build would be nice.

At first we were thinking hard on various splits. Maybe bring 2 terra tanks, a 600/smite combo or regular 55/ss. What did work pretty well (and we thought we would run it like that) was one tank (be it a 55 or a 600) and a couple of splinter barragers. We tore pretty quickly trough the monsters with that. We tried the difference between 55 and 600 and decided that 600 would be better.
Various other proposals were made, like grabbing 7 paragons, to see what combinations we could make. It appeared that the only ''all'' build we could run was an all-necro build. Which was amusing because at that time we had dropped the SS necro out of the party
So, looking for an all necro build we came across the infamous golem spike from HA. It looked pretty promising, had a couple of recastable tanks, enough heal to get trough the winter and was more then fun to play!

1. [build=OAhjUwGYoOAt0QWYyJNHmZMBAA]
2. [build=OAhjUwGYoOAt0QWQ4lxGmjzLGA]
3. [build=OAhjUwGYoSANpBZBKgTODTEPJXA]
4. [build=OANDUshvOAt0QWANUPeJTfZC]
5. [build=OAhjQwGIoO3hZYmYea9echTBAA]
6. terra tank

7. HB heal monk

As you see we made a few little changes and switched out 2 necro's for a monk and a tank. The tank was mainly decided on because of the Four Horsemen. Once we had our tank (N I V O) he appeared very capable and able to run splits without our help. The best part here was that before this he hadn't cleared uw!
Amusing moment (while practising):
''Nivo how far are you in the bonepits? Watch out for the dryders at the end!''
''Uh yeah, I'm done.''

Our run:
Well, we wanted to give it a go and see how quick and far we could get. We knew that we weren't aiming for a sub-hour time, but at least we'd have a laugh while doing it.

Try #1:
Clear chamber, run the ghosts and do a couple of quests that way, run back, clear the way trough the smites and run back while the tank would finish up the ice king. Wrong. While running back both the tank and the monk dropped out, one of us had to run back to res the monk (with DPS, which caused another death.. doh ) but in the mean time the ice king got killed. Aww for connection drop.

Try #2:
Same set up, this time ice king went very smoothly while the rest of us were clearing out the path. We saved the four horsemen for last but decided to do all quests and spawn all reipers already so we could teleport freely between them. We noticed that while doing the ghosts etc at the start we hadn't done the vengefull aatxes. We were 8/10 by then, so those first and then the horsemen. The Aatxes didn't spawn well, but with our tank in the middle of them we could take out the keeper and walk back. The main problem was that the Aatxes were in agro range of the reiper so we had some hussle before getting them out of range but then teleported.
3. 2. 1. Reiper died, out of underworld.
Aparently the Aatxes hadn't died as they should've done (dead keeper), but decided to turn on the reiper even though they were out of agro range. Too bad for that. I'm very sure we could've finished the quest get 9/10 and go for the horsemen where we would just need a little bit of luck (no back up for the tank) but I'm quite positive we could've done it.
Our time wouldn't have been great, we did that 8/10 in 1:30, so we would probably end up in about 1:45-1:50.

Try #3:
Didn't bother.

Anyway, we had a load of fun. Congratulations to Agro. Sorry Glory that you had to wait so long on the floor. Yeah, we spoke dutch, I think we opened up with 2 sentences of english and then reverted back to making fun amongst ourselfs, but you were a very good cheerleader

-Chris

ps. It was amusing to hear half the team complain during practices that tanking in normal mode was harder then in hard mode hehe...