Vampiric build^.^;

Sage Sanctus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

01 Apr 2008 at 09:35 - 1
Hey everyone,

I've recently signed up on the forums, but have been using them for a long time.

This may sound sad, but due to having Shiro's blades and never having done anything with them, I feel inclined to actually create a vampiric build, but I'm stumped as to where to start.

I'm guessing that it may need to be A/Mo, or a different proffesion but take a different set of daggers.

Here's my thoughts:

Way of the Assassin [elite]
Critical Eye
Way of Perfection(Not sure if its entirely neccessary here)


And then I'm not too sure of what to add. I'm not particularly worried if i need to go down the mending route as I can make up for the energy loss with my elite and Critical eye.

Thanks guys

p.s. purely because I love the skn of Shiro's Blades, I know vanity can be so stupid

Kyrein

Kyrein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Island of Undisclosed Location

01 Apr 2008 at 09:37 - 2
DEAR GOD!!! MENDING!!!

seriously, stay away

and don't go crit daggers, use an attack chain, much more effective

if you want to go critspam use a different weapon (scythe or bow comes to mind)

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Apr 2008 at 09:43 - 3
just use your normal build, vampiric adds damage.

Kyrein

Kyrein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Island of Undisclosed Location

01 Apr 2008 at 09:51 - 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
just use your normal build, vampiric adds damage. technically, it's life stealing

Sage Sanctus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

01 Apr 2008 at 10:26 - 5
lol thanks guys, I thought I'd have that response about mending^.^

So just take any normal build, or has someone got a proposed one? I'm guessing Death Blossom would be a wise choice?

Thanks again

Splitisoda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

STALKER!

Not in One

N/A

01 Apr 2008 at 10:32 - 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Sanctus
lol thanks guys, I thought I'd have that response about mending^.^

So just take any normal build, or has someone got a proposed one? I'm guessing Death Blossom would be a wise choice?

Thanks again Well, if you have nightfall get that SS Assassin skill, then you'll be lifestealing like mad.

Sage Sanctus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

01 Apr 2008 at 10:40 - 7
yeah^.^ kk, ty guys, and just take some other daggers while not using shiros then? >.< soz to be a pain

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Apr 2008 at 10:42 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Sanctus
lol thanks guys, I thought I'd have that response about mending^.^

So just take any normal build, or has someone got a proposed one? I'm guessing Death Blossom would be a wise choice?

Thanks again http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10271503


Take two pair of daggers: a zealous and a vampiric pair.

Sage Sanctus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

01 Apr 2008 at 10:51 - 9
Ok, thanks for that Pyro, and everyone else

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

01 Apr 2008 at 14:22 - 10
yep. needless to say, vamp is a 'sins left hand, and, zealous is a 'sins.... well..... hehehe... use you imagination for what zealous is for a sin. xD



~LeNa~

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

01 Apr 2008 at 15:12 - 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
Take two pair of daggers: a zealous and a vampiric pair. Try to carry a pair without any form of degen as well. Most people would recommend Ebon. Helps no end against Warriors too.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Apr 2008 at 16:20 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby2
Try to carry a pair without any form of degen as well. Most people would recommend Ebon. Helps no end against Warriors too. It is certainly not bad to carry it, however I think it's redundant. zealous doesn't give you an disadvantage outside of battle (+3 or +4 regen /care).
About the warriors, with the low base damage of the daggers and the fact that most mobs are 4-5 levels above you, you won't notice a difference.
Still, daggers and elemental mods are cheap. If you like, carry an extra pair.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

01 Apr 2008 at 17:21 - 13
Weaponswaps are leet.
Go for a defensive set (Sword, Shield) for an off-spike set.

Sage Sanctus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

01 Apr 2008 at 17:57 - 14
Kk, thnx guys youve really helped=)

ill keep a zealous pair and the vampiric with me and get my hands on an elemental pair

craigrs84

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

A/

02 Apr 2008 at 00:38 - 15
id have to disagree, i see no reason to use zealous daggers in this case. take an ebon pair like they said. zealous just hinders your energy regen if you are not using it as your primary dagger set.

Sage Sanctus

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Join Date: Apr 2008

England

Eternal Night Vanguard[TEN]

Mo/

02 Apr 2008 at 09:06 - 16
I've always found that, although not very often, I have more energy problems when not using a zealous pair.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

02 Apr 2008 at 17:16 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Sanctus
I've always found that, although not very often, I have more energy problems when not using a zealous pair. zealous takes away 1 pip (1 energy per 3 seconds) and adds 1 energy on every hit (roughly 1,5 energy per second with 14 dagger mastery and a 33% IAS)
This is only, of course, when you hit everything.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

02 Apr 2008 at 17:20 - 18
Switch out of your Zealous set while not attacking or doing anything to stop the energy regen reduction...?

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

07 Apr 2008 at 20:25 - 19
zelous are good when just attacking on a person to get energy back

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

07 Apr 2008 at 21:45 - 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Sanctus
Hey everyone,

I've recently signed up on the forums, but have been using them for a long time.

This may sound sad, but due to having Shiro's blades and never having done anything with them, I feel inclined to actually create a vampiric build, but I'm stumped as to where to start.

I'm guessing that it may need to be A/Mo, or a different proffesion but take a different set of daggers.

Here's my thoughts:

Way of the Assassin [elite]
Critical Eye
Way of Perfection(Not sure if its entirely neccessary here)


And then I'm not too sure of what to add. I'm not particularly worried if i need to go down the mending route as I can make up for the energy loss with my elite and Critical eye.

Thanks guys

p.s. purely because I love the skn of Shiro's Blades, I know vanity can be so stupid yea the only dagger's i would get is shiros... and realized that it is completely useless... so i just went the alternate route and made a/d with tengu scythe (that thing is huge)

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

07 Apr 2008 at 21:53 - 21
Speaking of vampiric build, I don't know what to do with Vampiric Assault.
Suggestions?

Bobby2

Bobby2

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Join Date: Jun 2007

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W/E

07 Apr 2008 at 23:56 - 22
'Damage'-wise, Vamp Assault is meh. The best use I've gotten out of it...

Speccing:
Deadly Arts 12+1+1
Dagger Mastery 8+1 (req. PvP Daggers)
Critical Strikes 8

- Crit Eye for energy management
- Moebius/Vamp Assault for repeated life steal.

Blossom was in there as well to keep up the chain above 50%HP (damage was laughable though), Dark Prison/Black Spider for shortcut and degen, Augury of Death for DW and secondary Hex. Mind you this was pre-Augury-nerf. Last slot was reserved for Dash (as if I'd try it anywhere else than AB).

It was very clunky, only moderately effective: imho not worth it.

I say leave the crap skill to rot.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Angels Of Strife

E/

08 Apr 2008 at 22:22 - 23
there was a pvx build that was a lot of fun to run on a sin. i think it was a stub build but

vamp weapon(the rit skill)
vamp assault
lotus strike
some lead
mobious
etc

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

30 Apr 2008 at 19:25 - 24
would this [Locust's Fury] work with a vamp weapon and maybe [conjure lightning] ?

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

30 Apr 2008 at 20:22 - 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lourens
would this [Locust's Fury] work with a vamp weapon and maybe [conjure lightning] ? still < MS/DB, but it would work ok

EDIT: wow I'm dumb, no it wont work, thanks for pointing that out Bowstring

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

30 Apr 2008 at 22:45 - 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lourens
would this [Locust's Fury] work with a vamp weapon and maybe [conjure lightning] ?
Can't use conjure with a vamp weapon as it has no effect.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

30 Apr 2008 at 23:28 - 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Can't use conjure with a vamp weapon as it has no effect. So instead you use Strength and Honor

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

30 Apr 2008 at 23:41 - 28
vamp is this:

deadly 12+1+1
channeling 12

dancing daggers
nightmare weapon
mantis touch
vampiric assault
offering of spirit
disrupting dagger
impale
res

-or-

8+1 crits
12 deadly
10 channeling

palm strike
vamp assault
nightmare weapon
siphon speed or dash
ancestors rage
impale
disrupting dagger
res


neither are amazing, but do dish out some cool, highspeed life stealing, and the nightmare+vamp assault+vamp dagger stack is fun to see!

have fun :P

Tamgi Sun

Tamgi Sun

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

R/Rt

02 May 2008 at 18:02 - 29
Imho...

Build:

12+1+3 Deadly Arts
12 Channeling Magic
3 Dagger Mastery

Vampiric Daggers of Fortitude with +5 Energy Inscription
-5 Energy Spear of Defence & Shield of Fortitude -Defensive set-
Insignias: Survivor & Radiant
Runes: Superior Vigor, Superior Deadly Arts, & the rest are personal preference.

Nightmare Weapon
Assassin's Promise [Elite]
Dark Prison
Black Spider Strike
Vampiric Assault
Impale
Signet of Toxic Shock
Dash OR Ancestors Rage, [To be used after Assassin's Promise, just before you Shadowstep in with Dark Prison]

Usage is pretty basic:
Hit Nightmare Weapon.
Get close enough to your target so they can't escape radar range within 1 second.
Cast Assassins Promse [Followed by Ancestors Rage if equipped] and then Shadowstep in with Dark Prison (Coverhex for Assassins Promise & the element of surprise)

Use Black Spider Strike -> Vampiric Assault -> Impale -> Signet of Toxic Shock.

Target will be more than likely dead.

Figures:
42 x 5 = 210 {From the three hits of Nightmare Weapon & the two of Vampiric Assault}
3 x 5 = 15 {From Vampiric Daggers}
106 From Impale
106 From Signet of Toxic Shock
Up to 100 from Deep Wound {From Impale}
-4 Degen from Poison.
526 Damage total. & -4 Energy Degen.
Enough to kill most targets in AB.

Also if you bought Ancestors Rage with you that will add a further 89 Damage to the Spike. Making the total damage output 605 + -4 Degen.

Counters: Standard Melee counters & Removal of Assassins Promise [Note that will be unlikely as not many carry Hex Removal in AB]
Target not dieing within 16 seconds.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

02 May 2008 at 20:25 - 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
So instead you use Strength and Honor
Why would you use such a garbage skill when you could use an attack skill and get more damage...

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

03 May 2008 at 16:03 - 31
add Mending, Healing Breeze, Orison of Healing and ugh... something else for the ultimate Whammo(Sin version) :P