DCore Farming War/Rit nerfed? Thoguhts ?

HariTec

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/Mo

I was logged in last night just after the update and decided to do a bit of Dcore farming (first wave of Glints) in hard Mode. I use a similar build to that previously posted on this site- basically continuous VwK through bringing a QZ ranger Hero. I have farmed about 300 Dcores this way in the recent past, so I know the build worked.

Well, I went in with my Ranger - AND COULDN"T KILL ONE DESTROYER

I lasted for several minutes (It used to take me about 4 minutes to finish a run), getting volleyed and spirit rifted like crazy = -29's everywhere and none dropped. It seems they have buffed the monster skill "INNER FIRE" to keep them healing regularly.

So, I tried in Normal mode - still with ranger - and killed one before the cycle started again. I survived for 1000 + spirit rifts but couldn't kill them.

SO, I added EoE (to add damage if I did start killing some ) and Predatory Season to reduce the effect of healing to the ranger - still no luck.

Tonight I will cap the elite skill Quicksand for my ranger- hoping this will cause some energy denial and maybe keep them from healing so easily.

Elite Nature Ritual. Create a level 1...8...10 Spirit. All non-Spirit creatures within its range lose 1 Energy each time they attack or use a Skill. This Spirit dies after 30...78...90 seconds.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS APPRECIATED

Necron I I

Necron I I

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Bulgaria

N/

Well i'm no expert but if you have some suspicions about inner fire i'd suggest that you look up the update feedback and see if you were right...

Esoteric Mesmer

Esoteric Mesmer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Ryders of The Sword [FRND]

Me/N

He is right, or at least so it says on wiki. I will imagine this effects the e/me hm variant as well which relies only on sliver armor for damage, which sucks since I spent the past weekend getting my ele through eotn specifically for this. Oh well...

Hifi Killer

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

The HiFi Elite

W/Mo

unfortunatly inner fire does not require energy so they will still spam it without energy. it says in the update that they made the skill work, i guess it dident work before and no one noticed. the price of dcores might rise as a result of this.

XBC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Indiana

[ROME]

W/Mo

Bug Fixes

* Fixed a bug with the Destroyer skill Inner Fire that caused its user to not receive any healing from the skill.

As it is, that's the change.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

E/Me will still work until you have like <5 destroyers left since the damage is so fast.

HariTec

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/Mo

How is Sliver Armor faster than VwK ? Every attack on you with VwK does 29 damage back to the source - I have never run a sliver armor ellie but from reading the skills I dont see how it can be faster. Course at 16 earth it does more damage than VwK so maybe that is what makes it work.

Also, Inner Fire does require 5 energy - so energy denial may work

My Lipgloss is Cool

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

Sliver will do massive damage to one target, rather than doing small damage to several targets (Which will easily be outhealed)

Tokolosi

Tokolosi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

W/

Well, that surely sucks.
Warriors 0 Destroyers 1

nootay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

bah that DOES suck. I just beat half of factions so i could cap VwK. Does anyone have the sliver armor build that apparently still works?

edit: Nevermind, i assume you are speaking of http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/...stroyer_Farmer

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

I liked farming the cloths of the brotherhood for my heroes. It was a pretty mellow, easy h&h. Can't do that now.

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

My guild seems to think this is all just part of the April Fools event, and that everything will be turned back to normal later. I doubt it though... So depressing, they go to such great lengths to stop people from buying gold and yet here they are nerfing some of the few remaining reliable income sources.

I guess I'll have to go make an Ele and farm Raptors like all the kool kids.

Le sigh...

Moriean

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Netherlands

Aatxes for Life [ecto]

Mo/

Elementalist still works, if you use an ultra overpowered sliver build. (Intensity etc.)

I hope this will bring up the prices of cores.

Since I'm mainly farming on my Ele, I kinda like this nerf. But it's still a nerf of a main warrior farm.

Elementalists 1 Destroyers 0

philo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

On a (somewhat unrelated) side note, this update may very well mean that [skill]Scourge Healing[/skill] will now be one of the most effective destroyer destroying skills. Its long duration and short recast could completely negate the presumptive health gain and turn it into damage for a whole squadron of destroyers.

If I'm not mistaken, the net damage dealt over time will range between 370 at smiting 12 and 540 at smiting 16.

Although destroyer core farming may not be able to profit from this, it will at least help rebalance PvE gameplay in Destruction's Depths, the Raven Dungeon, A Gate Too Far and the G.O.L.E.M mission.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Inner Fire doesn't heal, it's a health gain skill, so Scourge will not trigger (I assume, correct me if I'm wrong).

Thank you anet for destroying my favourite farm.

QQ for life

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

wrong I just checked and Scourge Healing works

kudos to philo for a great idea




now the sad part is the time :/ (but keep in mind that was my first try)

but the D-cores should jump nicely in price

Hugh Manatee

Hugh Manatee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Nice But Deadly[nice]

N/

Well thats kind of weird, scourge doesn't normally trigger on that sort of health gain...

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

well it works on Inner Fire, but another sad part came up :/

shatter hex hurts a bit

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

"30 health/second" isn't regen, (+15 regen wouldn't do much), its heal for 30 every second. Although usually "gain != heal" but that's how it's working here. (Wonder how victorious sweep works...)

Tokolosi

Tokolosi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
Your screen shots are bitmaps. I thought ANet switched over to jpegs a while ago. When was this taken? Can you switch between the two formats in-game? No
123456789

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokolosi
No
123456789 Yeah, that's what I figured after I looked around in the Options menu. Still wierd about the bitmap thing tho...

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Washi
Thank you anet for destroying my favourite farm.

QQ for life For you and anyone not in the loop. Anet DID NOT destroy/nerf your farming spot. You were not supposed to be able to farm D-cores they way you did in the first place. Perhaps you just chose not to realize that accidentally on purpose. "Inner Fire" wasn't working as intended as Anet suggests.

on the other hand.....

Personally I think it's random BS Anet is springing up to justify the change (fix) to the skill. How can you not know after so long? After months of this they finally realize it wasn't working like they intended? I smell BS but that's just me. This leaves me wondering what other monster skills aren't working as intended accidentally on purpose.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
Your screen shots are bitmaps. I thought ANet switched over to jpegs a while ago. When was this taken? Can you switch between the two formats in-game? http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Command_line#-bmp

?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Nothing was nerfed, something was fixed, and now my stack of D-cores will be worth something : )

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
Your screen shots are bitmaps. I thought ANet switched over to jpegs a while ago. When was this taken? Can you switch between the two formats in-game? Not ingame but it you start gw with the command gw.exe -bmp you will get them instead of jpg.

To change back to jpg just start with gw.exe

Krat

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

@ MrGuildBoi & kratimas...thanks. Better quality images I guess, but bmp's are somewhat of a space hog.

E/Me's can still farm the spot, so for those used to only employing their W/Mo's, send them somewhere else and start working on your ele's.

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
@ MrGuildBoi & kratimas...thanks. Better quality images I guess, but bmp's are somewhat of a space hog.

E/Me's can still farm the spot, so for those used to only employing their W/Mo's, send them somewhere else and start working on your ele's. if its not a secret - what skill do you use to counter Inner Fire as E/Me?

and what is your time for the whole first wave as E/Me

I farm them with a E/Mo and it takes me 11min. <Hard Mode>

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Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Poland

none

W/

Argh this sux... bb easy money

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by okashii
if its not a secret - what skill do you use to counter Inner Fire as E/Me?

and what is your time for the whole first wave as E/Me

I farm them with a E/Mo and it takes me 11min. <Hard Mode> N/M only...hard mode take too long. Arcane Echo allows for a 2xSliver. Getting hit by Sliver SEVERAL times a second will counter Inner Fire. When you get down to around five Destroyers, get your drops and zone.

The run takes about 3-4 mins, approx 2-4 Cores, plus some drops. Too boring to do for long tho. Remember when Farming was fun?