Will i Like Paragon Class?
English Warrior
Hey All as many of you know my main character is a warrior and im wondering whether to make a paragon because they seem very similar to each other so do you think ill like playing paragon because i like playing a warrior lots?
EmptySkull
Maybe I shouldn't respond because I don't know you but. The only one that can answer that question is you. But from my experience they are fun to play. They can be offensive and defensive. And if you carry other paragons with you, the profession can be a mighty force to be dealt with. I say if you got the slot make one and play around. As long as you're not bored continue to play. If you do get bored re-roll.
isamu kurosawa
just make one and find out for yourself maybe? the only person who can possibly know the answer to these types of questions is yourself.
Quru
I miss the times when ppl really tried classes, builds etc. instead of asking at forums.
Richardt
Leeds, they're fairly similar. If you can play a warrior ably, then you shouldn't have a problem with a paragon. The only adjustment you'll have to make is going from a frontline person to a midline person.
I find the para to be extremely fun and a blast to play, but really the only way to find out if you like them is to try it out for yourself.
I find the para to be extremely fun and a blast to play, but really the only way to find out if you like them is to try it out for yourself.
Jam Jar
Make one in PvP, try it out. It's one of the cost free and most timeless methods.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Quru
I miss the times when ppl really tried classes, builds etc. instead of asking at forums.
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Guild Wars is one of the few MMO's where you can't make mistakes PvE wise. Put your points in the wrong attribute line? Just rearrange them. Upgraded your armor with the wrong runes? Just overwrite them with the ones you want. Picked the wrong secondary? Just change it later on in the game.
The only difference would be the choice of your primary profession, which can't be altered. But if you get bored playing an Assassin after 3 days, just make a Dervish. You still like playing an Assassin after 3 days? Well, just keep on playing
Just make a character and play the game, you will find out soon enough if you like the profession.
Flem
No, you'll hate it.
Elder III
I find that Paragon's strengths are in buffing your party and playing a support role, while when I play Warrior I tend to try to deal as much damage as possible and focus aggro on myself. In my mind they are quite different, but as many have said already - there is no "bad" choice of profession in GW. With some experimentation and practice they are all very playable. Whether you like it or not is totally subjective... gl & hf
Perkunas
Everyone has their own opinion about each class. I tried Paragon, didn't like it enough to leave newb island with it. Just my opinion.
Eddie Frenzy Spam
From my experience playing warrior and playing paragon are really nothing alike, that does not mean to say though I do not enjoy playing paragon.
For starters paragons deal ranged attacks while warriors deal close range damage.
Paragons imo are more versatile than warriors due to their defensive and offensive capabilities compared to the warriors purely offensive set up (yes you can play warrior defensively but I mean with regards to killing stuff, and keeping stuff alive =P)
Paragons require FAR FAR less skill than a warrior does, they're a much simpler class, they're very passive most of the time.
Paragons are a midline class unlike the warriors frontline roll.
Now i'll admit, i've never actually played a Paragon in PvE, but have quite a bit of experience playing Para in PvP, and can say most of the time I do fairly enjoy it. There's something about the passiveness that's relaxing, but yet this is mixed with the offensive capabilities that stop the passiveness from just being plain boring.
You should give it a go in RA or somewhere like that on a PvP character first, try out a few different builds and get a general feel of the class, then decide if you want to make a PvE para or not.
For starters paragons deal ranged attacks while warriors deal close range damage.
Paragons imo are more versatile than warriors due to their defensive and offensive capabilities compared to the warriors purely offensive set up (yes you can play warrior defensively but I mean with regards to killing stuff, and keeping stuff alive =P)
Paragons require FAR FAR less skill than a warrior does, they're a much simpler class, they're very passive most of the time.
Paragons are a midline class unlike the warriors frontline roll.
Now i'll admit, i've never actually played a Paragon in PvE, but have quite a bit of experience playing Para in PvP, and can say most of the time I do fairly enjoy it. There's something about the passiveness that's relaxing, but yet this is mixed with the offensive capabilities that stop the passiveness from just being plain boring.
You should give it a go in RA or somewhere like that on a PvP character first, try out a few different builds and get a general feel of the class, then decide if you want to make a PvE para or not.
Targuil
If you like godmode without skill, take a paragon.
wyrd
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Playing a Paragon takes skill to use its varied types of skills effectively and it does not even come close to anything closely resembling godmode, however they are like warriors very durable with 80 max armor and do similar damage as a sword. You can focus on spear mastery and be a ranged fighter (Similar range as a shortbow). give party offensive/defensive buffs or a combination of both.
My main is a Paragon and I enjoy the different skills but as others have said you will have to try it for yourself to see if its for you.
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by wyrd
Thats ridiculous!
Playing a Paragon takes skill to use its varied types of skills effectively and it does not even come close to anything closely resembling godmode, however they are like warriors very durable with 80 max armor and do similar damage as a sword. You can focus on spear mastery and be a ranged fighter (Similar range as a shortbow). give party offensive/defensive buffs or a combination of both. My main is a Paragon and I enjoy the different skills but as others have said you will have to try it for yourself to see if its for you. |
What he said isn't ridiculous.
Shakti
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Originally Posted by Targuil
If you like godmode without skill, take a paragon.
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OP it's a preference really. I'd rolled a para when nf came out and ended up deleting her. I tried again recently and am having a blast.
Horseman Of War
the problem is that most people think that 'god-mode paragon' is that same old WIKI BUILD that uses focused anger+gfte+tnft..... and that one luxon skill. If I see this build on a team, I usually assume that the person has no clue how to actually run a para, and made the character with delusions about the build of discussion...
Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para.
Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace.
If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest.
Or take your para solo-farming. Good times.
Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para.
Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace.
If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest.
Or take your para solo-farming. Good times.
creelie
I love my paragon, and yes I use the reviled SY/TNTF build for incredible group-wide damage reduction. It's like the old-school Ritual Lord Shelter spammer, which I also loved.
NeonXero
I haven't read through everything - but I definitely love my Paragon, in both PvP and PvE. They have a lot of things they can do - attacking, defense, support, and just... leetness.
Targuil
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Originally Posted by wyrd
Thats ridiculous!
Playing a Paragon takes skill to use its varied types of skills effectively and it does not even come close to anything closely resembling godmode, however they are like warriors very durable with 80 max armor and do similar damage as a sword. You can focus on spear mastery and be a ranged fighter (Similar range as a shortbow). give party offensive/defensive buffs or a combination of both. My main is a Paragon and I enjoy the different skills but as others have said you will have to try it for yourself to see if its for you. |
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Originally Posted by Shakti
I disagree. I recently made a new para and love her. Yes, it is possible to play a para (or any class) in pve and roll through with heroes. Playing it well is a whole other matter. I find that timing shouts chants etc to get the most out of them is quite fun. It's just like almost every other class. Yes, you can mindlessly button mash and get things dead....but you can also learn the best combo and timing to get em dead faster/better and have much more fun
OP it's a preference really. I'd rolled a para when nf came out and ended up deleting her. I tried again recently and am having a blast. |
hurdlebeast
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I haven't read through everything - but I definitely love my Paragon, in both PvP and PvE. They have a lot of things they can do - attacking, defense, support, and just... leetness.
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Khanduras
When Nightfall came out, I immediately made a Paragon and proceeded to beat the game with her. Haven't really played her much since. It's not bad, but it's a bit too much support-geared for my tastes. Just create one and give it a shot.
Richardt
Actually when NF came out I originally thought that a Paragon was to much like a monk and since I suck at Monking I would end up hating Paragons.
Until around Christmas when I made one to help out my friends get titles that they helped me on (once you get down to it, over half my maxed titles where done with the help of my friends, so I really owe them alot) and I decided on a support character, and Paragon seemed to be the best suited for my play style.
Now 3 monthes later my Para is pretty much my main character and a staple to any of our team builds. I find it's a fun class that offers a variety of ways to deal out the hurt while keeping your team from the hurt the enemy deals out.
Just make one and give a try-see how you like it. If worse comes to worse, you have a new storage toon.
Until around Christmas when I made one to help out my friends get titles that they helped me on (once you get down to it, over half my maxed titles where done with the help of my friends, so I really owe them alot) and I decided on a support character, and Paragon seemed to be the best suited for my play style.
Now 3 monthes later my Para is pretty much my main character and a staple to any of our team builds. I find it's a fun class that offers a variety of ways to deal out the hurt while keeping your team from the hurt the enemy deals out.
Just make one and give a try-see how you like it. If worse comes to worse, you have a new storage toon.
dicecube
The only thing I like about my paragon is its name. Other than that, try out the imbagon build. Though being freakishly boring, it is very effective.
Kale Ironfist
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
the problem is that most people think that 'god-mode paragon' is that same old WIKI BUILD that uses focused anger+gfte+tnft..... and that one luxon skill. If I see this build on a team, I usually assume that the person has no clue how to actually run a para, and made the character with delusions about the build of discussion...
Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para. Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace. If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest. Or take your para solo-farming. Good times. |
Calling it one-sided would tar Warriors with that same brush; all you need to do is to attack to get their benefits. Generic? Only because people know it's strong, so they may as well use it.
More importantly, it is not easily shutdown. In terms of counters, you have blind, and you have anti-shout. Anti-shout skills, quite bluntly, suck, and if your team can't deal with it, you have poor/nonexistent teamwork. Blind only sticks if your team doesn't have a decent amount of condition removal.
Basically, to make a Paragon not be imba, you have to actually work at being a poor player. The fact that some people can do this is a feat in itself.
bono
Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by bono
Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak.
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jimmyboveto
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Originally Posted by bono
Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.
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Their dps is on par with that of a d-slash war.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
the problem is that most people think that 'god-mode paragon' is that same old WIKI BUILD that uses focused anger+gfte+tnft..... and that one luxon skill. If I see this build on a team, I usually assume that the person has no clue how to actually run a para, and made the character with delusions about the build of discussion...
Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para. Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace. If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest. Or take your para solo-farming. Good times. |
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Originally Posted by bono
Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.
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Can I have your account, Bono? :3
byteme!
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Errrr...that SY/TNTF build is the best option. And how can you not run a Paragon if you're running that?
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