New Monument. Monument to Gaile Gray.

Vlatro

Vlatro

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

NY

The Nefarious Coterie

E/A

By now, we've all heard the news that Gaile is changing roles in AreaNet. I think the farewell ceremony this weekend should end with the permanent placement of a small frog statue in LA to commemorate the occasion.

GM's are a vital part of any online game, bridging the gap between the devs and the community. I think it fitting that the world in which we play reflects the history of that community. This is an occasion of note, and a simple remembrance in the form of a statue would be in order. No effect on gameplay, no new tradeable items to upset the economy, just a simple decoration.

Edit: at the time of this posting, the news of Andrew Patrick changing roles had not yet been posted on the main site. His contributions to the PvP game have been every bit as important as Gaile's efforts in PvE. Similar honors are definitely called for. However I recommend starting a new thread for that topic. We're not playing favorites here, or trying to deprive anyone else of their well earned glory. I leave that issue to people who play more PvP than I do. They are the most familiar with his work and are better suited to recommend how he should be recognized. Now that it's been said, please keep the thread on topic.


Edited by Celestial Beaver: Title changed to reflect thread content.

chozodude

chozodude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

the netherlands

lowlandlions (LLL)

W/

/signed =D i like the idea

ill like it even more if something happens when you /kneel near it

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

That would be quite cool actually.

I think a Stone Statue of Gaile's Character in the Centre of LA would be quite awesome.

/signed

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chozodude
/signed =D i like the idea

ill like it even more if something happens when you /kneel near it
lol when you /kneel to it it shows gaile's ranger coming out and /ranking w/ the r15 hero emote xD


on topic, yea... we need something that will stand out forever to comemorate her forever. she did a damn good job for all the crap people made her go through (i.g., flaming her, talking bad about her, ect). she did an awesome job. so, yea, i just hope this farewell thingie this weekend will forever leave a mark for her.



~LeNa~

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Wow I was just thinking about that yesterday. Except I think it should be in toa/chantry/zin ku like all the other statues. You should also be able to kneel at it and have a little ghost form of her level 9 ranger appear.

Soulstryke

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Wings of Kuunavang

N/Me

/signed

I never attended any of the in game meets; but I've done a lot of reading and seen the 'making of' videos - she's done a lot of work for us and been a great community relations person.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chozodude
ill like it even more if something happens when you /kneel near it
Like an avatar of Gaile Gray appears, who offers you access to the Secret Lair of the Frogs? A special dungeon where Party Animal items drop?





...on second thoughts, maybe this "special dungeon" shouldn't be a dungeon, but should be "The Northlands" full of lvl 25 frogs. Party Animal points AND nostalgia...who could resist?


Poll Added.

NOTICE TO ALL FORUM USERS

Please use the poll to show your support. If you wish to post, please post constructively and within the Sardelac Sanitarium Guidelines. Attempts to get around the 12 character rule by posting spam will be considered a rule violation and will be deleted. Any violations of this rule will not go unnoticed. We thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Vlatro

Vlatro

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

NY

The Nefarious Coterie

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulstryke
/signed

I never attended any of the in game meets; but I've done a lot of reading and seen the 'making of' videos - she's done a lot of work for us and been a great community relations person.
Yes, I usually catch up on the frog's (Gaile's) latest news and comments on forums like this. It's become a daily reading requirement for me, aggregated into my other news rss feeds. Before I play the game, I need to know what's new and exciting. I've read the farewell thread here and countless other comments, I know I'm not alone in this reading habit. Anyone who's had such an impact on so many players should be remembered. A lasting commemoration.

Who knows, maybe a year from now some newb will ask "WTF, there a frog statue here?!", and we can explain, recounting the tales of our little froggy friend who used to appear and talk with us. How people turned out in the hundreds just to catch a glimpse of it.

After a while in a game like this, you've got your preferred armor, you know your builds, you've got an awesome looking weapon etc. Eventually everyone gets there. What's important then is being able to say "I was here when this happened", "I saw the history of this game as it was being made". When everyone you know has done everything else, what sets you apart are your experiences. This is a great way to remember them. A way for us who are here now to remember what went into making the world that we see. A way to spark curiosity and intrigue in those who come after us.

Yes, it's a monument to Gaile, but it's as much for us as it is for her.

P.S. Thanks Celestial Beaver for adding the poll

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Something like this should be in both Lakeside County and Old Ascalon (as a 'monument that survived the searing')

The only thing I would not like is any quote saying anything about pirates beating ninjas. Everyone knows that ninjas always beat pirates.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

The frog is always there. Why do we need a statue of it?

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Hell no! There was enough of this ****** from her and the frog. The last thing we need is a statue of her. And frog is there anyways.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Oh ffs, this is getting pathetic.

Deadly Panda

Deadly Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

/

Mo/A

Why a statue.. I don't remember my grandfather getting a statue when he stopped working ~.~

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

How do you people even come up with this kind of ideas

/NOTSIGNED

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

No I don't think such a monument is required.

Jefferson Airplane

Jefferson Airplane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

I don't think there should be a frog statue, but rather, a statue of Gaile's ranger. Perhaps with the frog next to her. I think it should appear in Lion's Arch and Kamadan. I don't think there should be a /kneel effect. After all, we don't want ANYTHING possibly ruining the economy anymore, like a secret party animal point dropping frog lair dungeon might do. Gaile has done an incredible job at her role, and I don't think that should be forgotten. Long from now when everyone's playing Guild Wars 2 except for the few who will always play Guild wars, someone will ask, "Hey, what's that statue if?", and someone older and wiser will tell them the tale of how Gaile was the greatest CRM to ever walk the lands, and that statue was dedicated to her on April 6, 2008 when she withdrew from her position as CRM.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Notsigned.
She's only moving to a different position anyway.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

/signed

She is a key part of guildwars since the beginning and did a great job. I think this is a great idea.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

guh ? last thing i know ive never heard Mhenlo mention ze great Gaile Gray!
Not that i could care about anet errecting a statue of her in the game but it would be yust damn silly (besides the npc's get all jealous and would be like quitting)

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/not signed. Gaile Gray doesn't fit in with the lore of the GW universe.

For every one who's a fan, there's another who doesn't care for her (to put it mildly) Me, I'm indifferent towards the work she did -it was her job and she did it, that's all. (but gotta give props for a couple of times where she had to put in the OT to take care of issues - the monk strike and the duping fiasco, as examples)

Vlatro

Vlatro

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

NY

The Nefarious Coterie

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
/not signed. Gaile Gray doesn't fit in with the lore of the GW universe.

For every one who's a fan, there's another who doesn't care for her (to put it mildly) Me, I'm indifferent towards the work she did -it was her job and she did it, that's all. (but gotta give props for a couple of times where she had to put in the OT to take care of issues - the monk strike and the duping fiasco, as examples)
That's specifically why it would be a monument to the frog (who Gaile happens to control). The frog has been a part of GW lore since the game's inception, so it's fitting in that regard. The idea is to make something purely decorative and small, unobstructive to the game. A point of curiosity. If it fits those guidelines, I can't imagine what the objection is. It would in no way impact the manner in which the game is played, and is far less obtrusive than the festival they have planned already.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadly Panda
Why a statue.. I don't remember my grandfather getting a statue when he stopped working ~.~
With all due respect, I don't know who your grandfather is. Likely because he didn't contribute anything to the GW community. Real statues cost real money. We're talking about a game, and it's the gesture that has meaning not monetary value. I know there are AreaNet haters out there, and maybe you don't care for her contributions, that's your choice. But come on, there are still statues of Stalin standing, not because everyone like the guy, but becuase he was important in the development of a country and culture. Likewise, GW has it's own culture and it's own history. Gaile has been instrumental to that. For better or worse, if there is one player in this game that the millions of players around the world know by name for their contributions, it is her.

t00115577

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

/signed for sure

Such an epic figure in this game should be remembered forever

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

/notsigned

in favor of a gravestone instead

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Dude.

I hope this is a bad joke. If not, damn. You're terrible o_o


Not signed.

Seriously though, if she deserves a monument, why not I?

RiKio

RiKio

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Plato's Cave

W/E

Lol....

I have two different view points.

The PvE view point sais /signed, for all the job done in PvE
The PvP view point sais /notsigned, for all the fails done in PvP.

Which point I should listen?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

i saw this thread and gave a long heavy sigh

jaymat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lack of Talent [Luck]

maybe something like a quest npc would b better

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!

Despite what people have said, Gaille has done a fantastic job as CR-while she may not have been given all the facts at times-that's not really her fault.

I think it would be cool to have a small Frog statue since the Frog (I guess) is getting replaced with a Bunny (better be a death dealing bunny!).

I think this is a cool idea.

/signed

Vlatro

Vlatro

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

NY

The Nefarious Coterie

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earth
Dude.

I hope this is a bad joke. If not, damn. You're terrible o_o


Not signed.

Seriously though, if she deserves a monument, why not I?
Well, you aren't leaving your post are you? Seriously though, I've read many of your threads and appreciate the time and effort you've put in.
I know! We'll immortalize you with a holiday. We'll call it "Earthday". Okay, so it's already taken, but you and I will know it's "real" meaning from now on.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earth
Dude.

I hope this is a bad joke. If not, damn. You're terrible o_o


Not signed.

Seriously though, if she deserves a monument, why not I?
I have one. It has my armour and my mini pets and... Oh. You were serious.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Give us just a "green" Frog- Minipet, think that would be far more funny, also this Minipet should have 1 speciality, a special emote that you can use only, while you have the frog out

type /rain and it will rain for soem seconds frogs from the sky XD that quak loudly, so that you can hear it

And if you wear a Frog Cepter and type in /crown, your Frog Minipet will receive a shiny golden Crown ^^

That would be so god damn funny *g*

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

She probably deserves more than this for putting up with some of you for 3 years...

Nadasee

Nadasee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

/Not Signed

Nice idea but i think the upcoming festival event is enough to remember the frog by.

She ain't going that far, 2 offices down the hall mabye... Not needed in my opinion!

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earth
Seriously though, if she deserves a monument, why not I?
__________________

"Diapers! I need diapers!"
Gaile doesn't need diapers, last I heard.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlatro
That's specifically why it would be a monument to the frog (who Gaile happens to control). The frog has been a part of GW lore since the game's inception, so it's fitting in that regard. The idea is to make something purely decorative and small, unobstructive to the game. A point of curiosity. If it fits those guidelines, I can't imagine what the objection is. It would in no way impact the manner in which the game is played, and is far less obtrusive than the festival they have planned already.


With all due respect, I don't know who your grandfather is. Likely because he didn't contribute anything to the GW community. Real statues cost real money. We're talking about a game, and it's the gesture that has meaning not monetary value. I know there are AreaNet haters out there, and maybe you don't care for her contributions, that's your choice. But come on, there are still statues of Stalin standing, not because everyone like the guy, but becuase he was important in the development of a country and culture. Likewise, GW has it's own culture and it's own history. Gaile has been instrumental to that. For better or worse, if there is one player in this game that the millions of players around the world know by name for their contributions, it is her.
I guarantee 75%+ of the Guild Wars population are lucky enough to not even know who Gaile Gray is so if they saw a statue of some lady in LA they might be a tad bit confused.

Waste of time.

/notsigned

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

[QUOTE=Jefferson Airplane] Long from now when everyone's playing Guild Wars 2 except for the few who will always play Guild wars, someone will ask, "Hey, what's that statue if?", and someone older and wiser will tell them the tale of how Gaile was the greatest CRM to ever walk the lands,QUOTE] Greatest CRM to ever walk the land? That would be Andrew Patrick and srsly no, no monument to Gaile. If we added a monument to her why not add a monument to commemorate Andrew? Simply because the majority of players are PvE and Gaile obviously catered to the PvEers doesn't mean she deserves a monument.

Tokar Terrius

Tokar Terrius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

STOP VIRGIN MEDIA!

Mo/E

As long as andrew gets one in temp of balth somewhere i guess /signed

and nothing too big

Jefferson Airplane

Jefferson Airplane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Gaile was not the ONLY one to control the Frog. There were others that occasionally sign in as the Frog or however they do it. Sure, Gaile probably was the main person that did, but no the only one. Now that Gaile is leaving doesn't mean the Frog is. Someone else can easily be assigned to control the Frog. The Frog is just a way to get in touch with the community, slip new info about things to the people, and get their general opinion about things. With Gaile gone who's to say someone else won't take up main control of the Frog? It's Gaile that's leaving, not the Frog. If they make a statue for her it should be to HER, not to something she sometimes used to talk to us.

I'm not too big on PvP but by all means, give Andrew a statue in The Temple of Balthazar, or anywhere significant to the world of PvP.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

/not signed

Yeah not even.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlatro
That's specifically why it would be a monument to the frog (who Gaile happens to control). The frog has been a part of GW lore since the game's inception, so it's fitting in that regard. The idea is to make something purely decorative and small, unobstructive to the game. A point of curiosity. If it fits those guidelines, I can't imagine what the objection is. It would in no way impact the manner in which the game is played, and is far less obtrusive than the festival they have planned already.
Oh, I see. Well, in that case... /not signed for the afore mentioned reasons. I would think that leaving the little frog right were it is and continue the tradition of putting festival hats on it during holidays would be adequate. it would (continue to) fill the criteria of being decorative, small, unobstructive, and a point of curiosity.