Skill tomes should give wisdom points
crazybanshee
I think that picking up a skill tome that's assiged to you should give you a wisdom point, much the same way that picking up a golden egg at easter gives you a treasure point. Come on, if picking up a book doesn't make you any smarter, what does?
Shayne Hawke
Seems pretty legit and logical to me.
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Reading one.
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Originally Posted by crazybanshee
Come on, if picking up a book doesn't make you any smarter, what does?
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Phoenix Tears
signed, nice idea that sounds also logical and would reduce slightly the grind of the wisdom title and at all, tomes drop so or so as far as i know from Hard Mode and Z-Chest
Normal Tome, say 2 points, Elite Tome 5 points sounds to me imo good
Normal Tome, say 2 points, Elite Tome 5 points sounds to me imo good
noneedforclevernames
not pernamently..since the title will be easy to achieve with soloing but maybe as a weekend event or something or only if picked up from a locked chest
demo113
If implemented it should only apply to elite skills tomes since the title track is based on the gold items.
Phoenix Tears
when putting it only to elite tomes, taking up elite tomes can give direct also some treasure hunter points..., because they drop rarer as gold items at all as as said only in HM
They are so rare, that i would call them a valuable treasure and if we talk about value, no one can say, they have none, otherwise they would not sell for like 5-12 Platin or higher in regard of what kind of class toem you have gotten and imo drops, which such community sell prices are it worth, to give some treasure hunter points too and when it is only 1
They are so rare, that i would call them a valuable treasure and if we talk about value, no one can say, they have none, otherwise they would not sell for like 5-12 Platin or higher in regard of what kind of class toem you have gotten and imo drops, which such community sell prices are it worth, to give some treasure hunter points too and when it is only 1
Tarun
/signed - it makes perfect sense.
MirkoTeran
/notsigned... title is just fine as it is.
legion_rat
/signed
But I agree with some of the others and think only for the elite ones.
~the rat~
But I agree with some of the others and think only for the elite ones.
~the rat~
MagmaRed
/unsigned
Tomes are already easy enough to farm. Easier than golds, imo. Wisdom is about learning, and although Tomes would provide 'learning', it would change the way the title is acquired. Change can be good, but the max level of the title is set based on identification. This would allow for the title to be maxed easier than it is. Go sit in a bot city and buy unIDs for the title.
Tomes are already easy enough to farm. Easier than golds, imo. Wisdom is about learning, and although Tomes would provide 'learning', it would change the way the title is acquired. Change can be good, but the max level of the title is set based on identification. This would allow for the title to be maxed easier than it is. Go sit in a bot city and buy unIDs for the title.
MithranArkanere
Unlike other consumables, you cannot use them indefinitely.
Tomes are a 'bonus' to get skills learned easily without consuming an skill point.
Picking a Tome from the ground? Maybe.
Using tomes? Not unless learning ANY skill gives Wisdom points. And they retroactively give wisdom points for every skill a character has, exceptiong signets of capture.
Tomes are a 'bonus' to get skills learned easily without consuming an skill point.
Picking a Tome from the ground? Maybe.
Using tomes? Not unless learning ANY skill gives Wisdom points. And they retroactively give wisdom points for every skill a character has, exceptiong signets of capture.
Axagoth Baal
/signed for picking up tomes, not using
Lyphen
Tomes = not paying 1K to learn a simple skill. No reason to add another large bonus to them. Wisdom Title track is fine as it is.
Jetdoc
I actually think that using normal tomes (instead of picking them up) would be a good use for this title as well.
The rationale is...since USING elite tomes already give you points for the Skill Hunter title, I think it's a pretty good idea to allow USING normal tomes to give you points for the Wisdom title. Neat idea.
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The rationale is...since USING elite tomes already give you points for the Skill Hunter title, I think it's a pretty good idea to allow USING normal tomes to give you points for the Wisdom title. Neat idea.
/signed
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I actually think that using normal tomes (instead of picking them up) would be a good use for this title as well.
The rationale is...since USING elite tomes already give you points for the Skill Hunter title, I think it's a pretty good idea to allow USING normal tomes to give you points for the Wisdom title. Neat idea. /signed |
When you use an Elite tome, you get a certain point towards a title. A point that you will never be able to acquire again. A concrete point. The point that THAT elite skill grants you.
When you acquire wisdom points, every single point is the same as the rest. It doesn't matter which gold item you identify, as long as you identify another one.
Tomes are a bonus, and 'extra' in themselves. They are not the way to get skills, they are an alternate way to get skills.
This would 'force' a bit that.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
ou cannot compare a grind title with an achievemnt title.
When you use an Elite tome, you get a certain point towards a title. A point that you will never be able to acquire again. A concrete point. The point that THAT elite skill grants you. When you acquire wisdom points, every single point is the same as the rest. It doesn't matter which gold item you identify, as long as you identify another one. Tomes are a bonus, and 'extra' in themselves. They are not the way to get skills, they are an alternate way to get skills. This would 'force' a bit that. |
With normal tomes, you can: (1) find one; (2) buy one from someone else; or (3) buy the skill from a skill trainer for 1K once you get a skill point.
With elite tomes, you can: (1) find one; (2) buy one from someone else; or (3) buy a signet of capture from a skill trainer for 1K once you get a skill point, and then go kill the boss and get the skill.
So, in both instances, you can simply buy what you need from someone else. I guess the argument is that because you have to take that extra step (i.e. kill a boss) for the alternative way to get the skill, it should get credit to a title while the other path shouldn't?
Doesn't seem like that material of a difference to me.
Regarding the other route to getting the Wisdom title, most people basically "buy" your way to that title as well by simply purchasing unidentified gold items from other players. Don't really see the difference between that and buying tomes from other players (especially since the cost is comparable)...
MithranArkanere
Elit and normal tomes are the same. Normal tomes just don't give anything for a title because there is no title for getting normal skills.
Currently, there is a total of 1319 skills, including PvE ones.
1235 PVP ones, from those, 945 are normal and 290 elite.
That makes a total of 945 points hat would be acquirable in this way, froma total of 10,000 points in the wisdom title.
So. When you learn an elite skill using a signet of capture, you get an Elite Hunter point. And so you do when you earn it using a tome. IT doesn't matter the way only that you learn an elite skill.
But if you suggest that using a tome increases the wisdom title, but NOT learning the skill with a quest or by using an skill trainer. That absolutely makes no sense.
It was already a mistake to make the Wisdom consider the Identified gold items instead of the picked rare items, allowing the title to be just bought... There's no need to increase it by making those that use tomes earn points that those that make quests or pay trainers won't earn.
Currently, there is a total of 1319 skills, including PvE ones.
1235 PVP ones, from those, 945 are normal and 290 elite.
That makes a total of 945 points hat would be acquirable in this way, froma total of 10,000 points in the wisdom title.
So. When you learn an elite skill using a signet of capture, you get an Elite Hunter point. And so you do when you earn it using a tome. IT doesn't matter the way only that you learn an elite skill.
But if you suggest that using a tome increases the wisdom title, but NOT learning the skill with a quest or by using an skill trainer. That absolutely makes no sense.
It was already a mistake to make the Wisdom consider the Identified gold items instead of the picked rare items, allowing the title to be just bought... There's no need to increase it by making those that use tomes earn points that those that make quests or pay trainers won't earn.
Calista Blackblood
/unsigned will ruin game economy and make hard mode nothing more than a fancy button
Solas
/signed
only for picking up elite ones as picking up normal ones would be pretty easy.
only for picking up elite ones as picking up normal ones would be pretty easy.
Orange Milk
LOL, a gaining Wisdom for "picking up a Tome"
Go to the library, get a book, leave it in your car for a week and return it.
You picked up a book, but did you gain any wisdom?
The title is fine and tomes only aid bots and should be deleted
/not signed
Go to the library, get a book, leave it in your car for a week and return it.
You picked up a book, but did you gain any wisdom?
The title is fine and tomes only aid bots and should be deleted
/not signed
Tyla
/Notsigned
Picking up a book doesn't make you smarter, reading one does. True, that's logical, but Guild Wars isn't logical.
I've never seen little people with dark black eyes, huge ears and stubby legs running around before like the Asura.
Or Giants, or Drakes, or mutant monstrosities.
Picking up a book doesn't make you smarter, reading one does. True, that's logical, but Guild Wars isn't logical.
I've never seen little people with dark black eyes, huge ears and stubby legs running around before like the Asura.
Or Giants, or Drakes, or mutant monstrosities.
HuntMaster Avatar
Forget logic, Forget all that qqer bs.
/signed for less work!
Faster Titles FTW! (LOL@ all the people who worked hard to get them when we could get them easier!
/signed again FTW!
/signed for less work!
Faster Titles FTW! (LOL@ all the people who worked hard to get them when we could get them easier!/signed again FTW!
White Lies
/signed - works 4 me
Artorius.Maximus
Only change needed for wisdom/treasure hunter titles is to make them both account based.
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Whisper Evenstar
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Only change needed for wisdom/treasure hunter titles is to make them both account based.
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/notsigned on orig post
MirkoTeran
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LOL@ all the people who worked hard to get them when we could get them easier!
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yarddog
/signed 123456
Reinfire
/notsigned
Just another "I want title but im too lazy to get it" suggestion
Just another "I want title but im too lazy to get it" suggestion
Dronte
Logical, but it wouldnt be good for the title at all.
/notsigned
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HawkofStorms
/signed
Why not? The title is a ridiculous grind already. A few other ways to get points won't exactly make it that much easier.
Why not? The title is a ridiculous grind already. A few other ways to get points won't exactly make it that much easier.
MithranArkanere
Not that I'm really against it.
But it should be done correctly. Skill tomes are a way to earn skills. And so, earning the skill should be the process to get the Wisdom point, not using the tome, and the points should be given retroactively.
That's barely 10% of the total of the Wisdom title.
But it should be done correctly. Skill tomes are a way to earn skills. And so, earning the skill should be the process to get the Wisdom point, not using the tome, and the points should be given retroactively.
That's barely 10% of the total of the Wisdom title.
Fear Me!
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/unsigned
Tomes are already easy enough to farm. Easier than golds, imo. Wisdom is about learning, and although Tomes would provide 'learning', it would change the way the title is acquired. Change can be good, but the max level of the title is set based on identification. This would allow for the title to be maxed easier than it is. Go sit in a bot city and buy unIDs for the title. |