Annoying Ursan Over Used
Online Gamer
In all the areas such as Fissure of Woe or Underworld and Domain of Anguish The only thing people everwant is 5 ursans and 3 healers. I do not not have Gwen so when ever i get in a group i get kicked becauses im not an ursan making impossible for me to do everything even though i am usually better than ursans. Does anyone else experience this problem because it is very annoying.
Siirius Black
all I have to say is: get gwen
Then you will have two options
1st. Go to FOW and UW with guildies with no Ursan
2nd Go UrsanWay
Then you will have two options
1st. Go to FOW and UW with guildies with no Ursan
2nd Go UrsanWay
Squishy ftw
Yup, it's either PUG and ursan.
Or guild/friends and choose your own build.
Or guild/friends and choose your own build.
Arduin
No I do not experience this problem because I got Gwen, and am able to use Ursan.
Kitty time already?
Kitty time already?
Lord High Pwner
Patience is a virtue. You are frustrated because Ursan groups form and go fast. I sit in ToA enough selling and standing around doing nothing to see groups forming all the time traditionally and in fact join many of them
Or you could read up on skills and find a hero/hench format that fits you. All missions are doable hero/hench with the exception of the elite dungeons.
edit** I heard this on a TV show once. "Your Net worth, is only as big as your Network". You obviously need a more active or larger sized guild.
Or you could read up on skills and find a hero/hench format that fits you. All missions are doable hero/hench with the exception of the elite dungeons.edit** I heard this on a TV show once. "Your Net worth, is only as big as your Network". You obviously need a more active or larger sized guild.
farmerfez
awwwww stop QQing and get gwen so you can Ursan or don't complain because without gwen your game is technically not complete.
hurric
Guild is your only answer. For the past few days we've been trying UW and we've had the worst luck to fill in our remaining spots with random people because either they're ursan or super n00b or just join and leave.
We have been using 4 heros and our job would be much easier if we had a couple more guys. The truth is people want fast clear of elite areas to get cash. (not that non-ursan is not fast and doesn't give cash)
For me sometimes, it's nearly impossible to find someone who wants to just have fun to play the game so heros are your friend.
edit: I have ursan but after using it in DoA I got sick of it and rather use paragons/ritualists/etc. instead of GLF r10 ursans
We have been using 4 heros and our job would be much easier if we had a couple more guys. The truth is people want fast clear of elite areas to get cash. (not that non-ursan is not fast and doesn't give cash)
For me sometimes, it's nearly impossible to find someone who wants to just have fun to play the game so heros are your friend.
edit: I have ursan but after using it in DoA I got sick of it and rather use paragons/ritualists/etc. instead of GLF r10 ursans
Dronte
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Originally Posted by Online Gamer
In all the areas such as Fissure of Woe or Underworld and Domain of Anguish The only thing people everwant is 5 ursans and 3 healers. I do not not have Gwen so when ever i get in a group i get kicked becauses im not an ursan making impossible for me to do everything even though i am usually better than ursans. Does anyone else experience this problem because it is very annoying.
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I rarely used my monk, now I got 5mil xp on him.
Destro Maniak
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Originally Posted by Lord High Pwner
Patience is a virtue. You are frustrated because Ursan groups form and go fast. I sit in ToA enough selling and standing around doing nothing to see groups forming all the time traditionally and in fact join many of them
Or you could read up on skills and find a hero/hench format that fits you. All missions are doable hero/hench with the exception of the elite dungeons.edit** I heard this on a TV show once. "Your Net worth, is only as big as your Network". You obviously need a more active or larger sized guild. |
Aerian_Skybane
This thread will be killed. See the 500000000+ other threads about this "problem".
Kusandaa
I play healer a lot these days 'cause I'm tired of being Ursan... else you might wanna run with guildies, or find yourself a guild that doesn't use Ursan.
Sniper22
No, ursan is lame now because noobs think u need to be r10 ursan to do it and everyone wants people to have a "cons set" which i think is one of the 3 main consumable items that give you hp boosts and whatever. Fow/uw have been totally destroyed by this and now it's wicked hard to form groups. It's not about having gw:en, which i do have, its just pathetic.
Witchblade
heroes + one friend/guildie
You can't see me
You cannot complain about not benefiting/having from content from a game you choose not to buy.
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Numa Pompilius
"And the number one threat is..."
Lord High Pwner
^ ^ Noobs dont think you need to be R10. People arent running FoW for the statue in their HoM's. They want one of the new skins, and from what i hear in most groups is they want it badly. SO why settle when there's enough r10's.
wyrd
You could always start your own party and choose to take ursans or not.
I'm tired of people complaining about ursan if they don't like it they don't have to use it or even party with those that do.
But if the problem is simply because you dont have GWEN I reccomend getting it Ursan is just one of its many great features.
I'm tired of people complaining about ursan if they don't like it they don't have to use it or even party with those that do.
But if the problem is simply because you dont have GWEN I reccomend getting it Ursan is just one of its many great features.
Thierry2
If you can't play ursan you will need a guildteam... those are much better ( if you're in a good guild) than ursan PUGs.
MithranArkanere
The PUG is a single mind. The PUG act as one.
If you want to join the PUG, you must let yourself be assimilated by them.
PUG may be whimsical, fanciful, fussy.
So even if you fullfill the know requisites, they may reject you.
Solution? Forget about the PUG and get there with friends, guildies and allies.
They should care less about the PUG and more about... well... playing. If not... then they probably have been already assimilated by the PUG and you should forget about them... once the PUG assimilate players into their collective, it's is very hard to release them.
In other words. Ursan is not the proble, you and those you join with are the problem. I can say that since even when I have Norn rank 10 I barely use the Norn skill...
Maybe it's just that I'm an elementalist and we don't need those puny tricks to be overwhelming powerful. but I think that even the other 9 minor professions can do quite well without it.
If you want to join the PUG, you must let yourself be assimilated by them.
PUG may be whimsical, fanciful, fussy.
So even if you fullfill the know requisites, they may reject you.
Solution? Forget about the PUG and get there with friends, guildies and allies.
They should care less about the PUG and more about... well... playing. If not... then they probably have been already assimilated by the PUG and you should forget about them... once the PUG assimilate players into their collective, it's is very hard to release them.
In other words. Ursan is not the proble, you and those you join with are the problem. I can say that since even when I have Norn rank 10 I barely use the Norn skill...
Maybe it's just that I'm an elementalist and we don't need those puny tricks to be overwhelming powerful. but I think that even the other 9 minor professions can do quite well without it.
Bryant Again
And here I thought Ursan was supposed to help PUG discrimination, lulz!
Morgoth the dark
Not this shit again.....
QQ moar plx.
QQ moar plx.
cgruber
Ursan makes pugging easier.. It's sort of an equalizer for the horribly crappy. I don't personally think its any better than a very good bar in general but I must say it's a metric ton better than some of the horrendous bars I've seen pinged from time to time. Monk with Flesh golem and dwaynas sorrow? wtf.
N1ghtstalker
stop QQ
can't go ursan?
HB monks are wanted too
i go HB and sometimes Ursan
stop whining ffs
can't go ursan?
HB monks are wanted too
i go HB and sometimes Ursan
stop whining ffs
Masseur
Me and the Wife just take heros and clear FoW. Last night I did it with 2 guildies and 5 heros. Don't need a full human group as long as you load up your heros with decent builds, runes, etc.... and know how to control them. Used my Koss as stance tank to aggro.
RotteN
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Originally Posted by Online Gamer
i am usually better than ursans.
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stop QQing, honestly. Why does everyone and their mother think it's interesting to start yet another thread about this ? What makes this thread different from the other billions of whine-threads about ursan ?
It's there, and probably there to stay, so learn to live with it or uninstall ...
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by cgruber
Ursan makes pugging easier.. It's sort of an equalizer for the horribly crappy. I don't personally think its any better than a very good bar in general but I must say it's a metric ton better than some of the horrendous bars I've seen pinged from time to time. Monk with Flesh golem and dwaynas sorrow? wtf.
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And well, IMHO it's faster than spending 4 hours with a balanced PUG group that might fail last quest (seen it happen...). I've cleared the areas before, I use whatever goes the fastest, and I'm not the only one who does that. Not everyone who use Ursan is a skill-less noob.
^ Needed to get that outta my system at least once >_>...
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
"And the number one threat is..."
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Kudos on the Colbert Report picture.
But yeah only option is guildies or make your own pug that is not ursan and kick all the ursan scrubs.
jhu
how's this different from before gw:en? groups wanted: 1 obsidian tank, 2 monks, 4/5 nukers, 0/1 necro. if you were paragon, derv, assassin, ranger, mesmer, or rit good luck getting into a pug. now with ursan, any class can get into a pug.
Koudelka
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
mesmer with half-monk half-mesmer bars
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To the OP: Welcome to Guild Wars... and it's descent into dystopia. I am very sympathetic with you. Guild Wars has its problems... ever so more now with a skill system which is clearly and absurdly divided into "1337" and as Kusandaa so delicately hinted at: "noob". Now, rather than use your mind to interpret a build, anything which doesn't have "wiki" all over it is considered "noob".
Personally I'm glad they never ask me to ping. You won't believe how many times I have snuck into HM UW ursan groups with Healer's Covenant. I am just as effective as the HBers... no one notices, which only serves to prove the hypocrisy of this "leet" or "noob" stigma. Now, I know that some builds are simply folly, but what is sheer folly is not helping people improve.
hurric
it's differnet because there's NO non-ursan groups anymore.
and paragons + rits destroy PvE. and did you not see the all mesmer fow clear picture? (no consumables, no non mes skills used).
It's fine if people use ursan if they want. I don't care.
and paragons + rits destroy PvE. and did you not see the all mesmer fow clear picture? (no consumables, no non mes skills used).
It's fine if people use ursan if they want. I don't care.
Cale Roughstar
I suggest you buy EoTN so you can ursan for a bit, and then join everyone on guru in QQ'ing about it. To QQ or not to QQ is not a question, but simply a matter of time.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
You cannot complain about not benefiting/having from content from a game you choose not to buy.
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Yet not wanting something like GW:EN because you personally don't like it's content is down to the decision of the majority of the community?
You shouldn't have to purchase GW:EN just to join a PuG in any area of the game or have access denied to playable content with a group just because you don't want to waste money. Regardless of how bad PuGs are.
But yeah, it's overrated.
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Originally Posted by Koudelka
Now are you saying I'm a "noob"? Would you mind telling me why I am a noob now? I didn't take you as the elitist type...
To the OP: Welcome to Guild Wars... and it's descent into dystopia. I am very sympathetic with you. Guild Wars has its problems... ever so more now with a skill system which is clearly and absurdly divided into "1337" and as Kusandaa so delicately hinted at: "noob". Now, rather than use your mind to interpret a build, anything which doesn't have "wiki" all over it is considered "noob". Personally I'm glad they never ask me to ping. You won't believe how many times I have snuck into HM UW ursan groups with Healer's Covenant. I am just as effective as the HBers... no one notices, which only serves to prove the hypocrisy of this "leet" or "noob" stigma. Now, I know that some builds are simply folly, but what is sheer folly is not helping people improve. |
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
No area or aspect of the game is denied to you because groups won't let you in. Join a guild devoted to non Ursan play and get rolling.
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You can't see me
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Yet not wanting something like GW:EN because you personally don't like it's content is down to the decision of the majority of the community?
You shouldn't have to purchase GW:EN just to join a PuG in any area of the game or have access denied to playable content with a group just because you don't want to waste money. Regardless of how bad PuGs are. But yeah, it's overrated. |
Thierry2
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Hamstorm warriors, or wammos with mending... mesmer with half-monk half-mesmer bars, meleemancer necros, eles who think are better with conjure phantasm than meteor shower, monks who bring firestorm when you asked them to go prot... could tell you much more...
And well, IMHO it's faster than spending 4 hours with a balanced PUG group that might fail last quest (seen it happen...). I've cleared the areas before, I use whatever goes the fastest, and I'm not the only one who does that. Not everyone who use Ursan is a skill-less noob. ^ Needed to get that outta my system at least once >_>... |
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Koudelka
Now are you saying I'm a "noob"? Would you mind telling me why I am a noob now? I didn't take you as the elitist type...
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I should've been cleared and mentionned the builds that doesn't make sense, like the Me/Mo I saw a while back. Bane Sig, Orison, Healing Breeze, Conjure Phantasm, Empathy, Res sig, a cap sig and something else I can't remember. And that was for FoW.
At least with Ursan I know their skill bar is gonna make sense...
Ctb
In related news, Guild Wars sucks when you play it with other people.
You can't see me
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Don't forget that I used the word "PuG" in there. Plus the majority of the PvE community are bent on Ursan, so it's beyond difficult to even find a guild that doesn't do it. |
And no, it is not difficult to find a guild that is devoted to non Ursan play. If I went down to guild connections, I could link you at least three recruiting guilds. I wouldn't call that "difficult".
Arkantos
You can either get GWEN or find a guild that don't run ursanway. Whatever you do, don't complain on a forum where nobody can help you because you don't have an expansion.