Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment

Sir Tidus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment, which is better for general PvE? Mend condition recharges in 2 seconds so it can cover almost all the conditions of the party (right?). However, mend condition can't be used on the monk himself, so would this create a big problem? (there's a monk insignia that give +15 armor when suffering from a condition, so does that sort of counter it?) Mend Ailment on the other hand can be used on the monk himself, however it takes 5 seconds to recharge. Both condition removers have relatively similar healing effects. So which should I go with? Thanks in advance.

As a side note, I don't have NF or factions (people like to suggest me skills these two campaigns).

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Mend Ailment. If you get Daze on yourself and you have Mend Condition, you'll have to rely on the other monk to remove it.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mend Ailment because you can cast it on yourself.

Boogz

Boogz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]

Mo/

mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

I prefer Mend Condition, as it works fundamentally better then Ailment. It can never be sure there is a condition remaining for Ailment to come into effect.

That's for PvE though. Since Ailment works on yourself, I'd suggest it for PvP

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

I will go with mend aliment for the reasons posted above

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mend Ailment. It can self-target.

If RC was in the mix, though, I would say that. Spammable all-condi skill which heals a sexy amount is nice...who cares about not self-targetting?? You can always bring another monk.

Sir Tidus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

But what if you use Disciple's Insignia? It gives +15 AL if you are suffering from a condition. Wouldn't that sort of cancel out not being able to self-target?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Disciples Insignia won't save you from Dazed or Degeneration.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Having 15 armour won't save you if you're heavily bleeding or being dazed. All it takes is one hit while dazed to stop you from healing yourself.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Mend Ailment for nuke heals in areas with little blind, dazed, and weakness.

Mend Condition in areas where your physicals are going to be blind a lot, so you need a condition removal that recharges fast.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

draw+ mend ailment , bring both imo

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

That would be draw and mending touch u mean?, better take a necro with foul feast, plague sending/signet along then.

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Mend Ailment for nuke heals in areas with little blind, dazed, and weakness.

Mend Condition in areas where your physicals are going to be blind a lot, so you need a condition removal that recharges fast.
What he said.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

mend condition, the heal is sexy. get another monk who removes conditions of you.

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

It's conditional, in my opinion. I usually pick mend condition because I do not find myself conditioned a lot, as I'm in the backline and don't see too many PvE red dots up close. It's quick, spamable, easy and cheap.

If you use Martyr or Draw Condition, Mend Ailment. Would be awesome for condition heavy areas I suppose. Generally I'm lazy and leave Mend Condition on anyway. There aren't too many situations in PvE where the conditions are so horrid that as long as you are watching your positioning, you shouldn't get too many (life threatening) instances of conditioning on you.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

dismiss ftw.....

if im monking for pve i'll usually bring mend condition.... ailment fails for recharge and cast..

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogz
mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't
This sums it up perfectly.

Sir Tidus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogz
mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't
I'm actually talking about the hero Ogden Stonehealer. But nevertheless, if I don't have another monk in the party who can remove conditions, then I should use mend ailment? Is one mend ailment enough for the party?

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

Neither - Dismiss Condition is the best. I guess if you don't have access to Dismiss, Mend Ailment is better since you can use it on yourself. And don't use Disciple's Insignia - Survivor's is best.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Mend Condition works well on Hero monks, because they will always meet the condition for the bonus effect. However, it cannot be used on the monk himself, so you need to work around that, either by having a second Mend Condition monk, or some other method of condition removal, or just living with the limitation.

Jam Jar

Jam Jar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

[Disc]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Tidus
I'm actually talking about the hero Ogden Stonehealer. But nevertheless, if I don't have another monk in the party who can remove conditions, then I should use mend ailment? Is one mend ailment enough for the party?
Well, you really need to conserve your other slots for more important skills, so even though Condition Removals may not be able to defeat teams that are condition heavy, it will at least relieve some pressure.